Paycheck141 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 im sure this has been discussed before but what is the toughest tournament in the regular season, ive heard the Traicoff and the Al Smith are the most stacked what are your thoughts? The honeybadger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The honeybadger Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Ive never competed in the Al Smith but i do know that if you take top 3 there you are most likely a state qualifier. dawsdad and Paycheck141 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) Brecksville Lots of Indiana state champs have wrestled in it. Only two wrestlers from Indiana have won it. It’s tough. Edited October 27, 2021 by Mattyb Paycheck141, Jayruss, coach_worden and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrick Snyder Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Brecksville, Ohio is by far the toughest regular season tournament I’ve ever taken a team to. It’s nasty. We are going back this year. Paycheck141, The Zebra, The honeybadger and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkraus Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 3 hours ago, The honeybadger said: Ive never competed in the Al Smith but i do know that if you take top 3 there you are most likely a state qualifier. lol...i took 5th at Al Smith and then 3rd at state...my first placer at Garrett, Bo Davis, went 1-2 at Al Smith, then took 3rd at state...(he did beat the al smith champion Saturday morning at State... Fielden never made the Al Smith Finals, but made it under the lights twice...(beat kids at state who beat him at al smith) FCFIGHTER170, The honeybadger, Jayruss and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paycheck141 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 War on the Wabash at Harrison high school is definitely a tough tournament when I wrestled they had Praire Heights, Jennings County, Goshen, Fairfield,Angola, Lake Central, South Bend Riley, Harrison, and Hamilton Southeastern, it changed every year but definitely a good one The Zebra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan937 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 The spartan classic was a very tough tournament years ago, But with lots of high quality teams leaving for team state or other big tournies it is not the same. Still a good tournament! but obviously is not the al smith, but hosted some really good final matches. My bracket back in 2012 had 1-6 place all state qualifiers including Vinny cosaro and josh farell that ended up being the state finals match. Paycheck141, Holden and The Zebra 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig40 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 14 hours ago, Darrick Snyder said: Brecksville, Ohio is by far the toughest regular season tournament I’ve ever taken a team to. It’s nasty. We are going back this year. After this year you will be saying the little ironman aka Carnahan Invite. jshep86, The honeybadger, Mattyb and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sig40 said: After this year you will be saying the little ironman aka Carnahan Invite. Crown Point has done a great job getting great teams to this. Going to be awesome. Brownsburgs schedule is nasty…. Brecksville Carnahan Grappler Gold in Michigan Harrison Duals In Ohio HCC conference Team State All very tough. Trending to a National schedule (as much as the IHSAA will allow). These kids will be battle tested. Duals against the following teams also. Columbus East Avon Westfield Perry Meridian Ben Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) Indiana’s Best at Arsenal Tech in the 80’s-90’s Edited October 27, 2021 by PhillyFanMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 11 hours ago, Wrestlingfan937 said: The spartan classic was a very tough tournament years ago, But with lots of high quality teams leaving for team state or other big tournies it is not the same. Still a good tournament! but obviously is not the al smith, but hosted some really good final matches. My bracket back in 2012 had 1-6 place all state qualifiers including Vinny cosaro and josh farell that ended up being the state finals match. I never won Connersville. Got beat by Josh Stith of Jeffersonville. Then drew him on Friday night. That Jeffersonville team was nails. Doherty and Rosbottom repeated as state champs that year. Stith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paycheck141 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 I always liked the Harvest Classic they've had a lot of tough teams participate in recent years like Perry Meridian, Brother Rice (IL), Penn, Hobart, Portage, Lake Central, I'm sure I'm missing some but I'm not sure which teams are currently in it. indianmorg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Maybe I’m biased because I grew up there in South Bend. And I had the bad luck of missing out on wrestling it 3 years in a row. But give me The Smitty. The old Mishawaka invite now the Al Smith. You win that ; there is a chestie waiting on you. Saw my uncle win it and it was the first tournament I ever saw. I’ve seen returning state champs pinned there and go on to win state. I understand that out of state and maybe down in Evansville or Kentucky there may be tougher tournaments: I’ll take the Smitty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Wrestlingfan937 said: The spartan classic was a very tough tournament years ago, But with lots of high quality teams leaving for team state or other big tournies it is not the same. Still a good tournament! but obviously is not the al smith, but hosted some really good final matches. My bracket back in 2012 had 1-6 place all state qualifiers including Vinny cosaro and josh farell that ended up being the state finals match. The pure blind draw of Connersville made it event worse. No guaranteed warm up matches, you may be put on the hot seat in round 1. Then it would have one heck of a late night wrestleback just to make it to day 2 if you lost early. My few appearances there I was lucky enough get the early wins and then head back to the hotel to rest up while most had to battle on in the consols. Edited October 28, 2021 by MattM Holden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Holden said: I never won Connersville. Got beat by Josh Stith of Jeffersonville. Then drew him on Friday night. That Jeffersonville team was nails. Doherty and Rosbottom repeated as state champs that year. Should have thrown the headlock on him first, before he unleashed one. It works for me once in freestyle. Stith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 11 hours ago, Mattyb said: Crown Point has done a great job getting great teams to this. Going to be awesome. Brownsburgs schedule is nasty…. Brecksville Carnahan Grappler Gold in Michigan Harrison Duals In Ohio HCC conference Team State All very tough. Trending to a National schedule (as much as the IHSAA will allow). These kids will be battle tested. Duals against the following teams also. Columbus East Avon Westfield Perry Meridian Ben Davis Which says a lot about why that team is always near or at the top. You’re only as good as your competition and when you seek out the best, you become the best. Mattyb and The Zebra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan937 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 2 hours ago, MattM said: The pure blind draw of Connersville made it event worse. No guaranteed warm up matches, you may be put on the hot seat in round 1. Then it would ge one heck of a late night wrestleback just to make it to day 2 if you lost early. My few appearances there I was lucky enough get the early wins and then head back to the hotel to rest up while the rest of the team battle on in the consols. They have new coaching staff this year, maybe if we get lucky things will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Just now, Wrestlingfan937 said: They have new coaching staff this year, maybe if we get lucky things will get better. Some advancements in tournament updates communication would be nice. rdrodd1, indianmorg and Paycheck141 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Morgan Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 14 hours ago, MattM said: The pure blind draw of Connersville made it event worse. No guaranteed warm up matches, you may be put on the hot seat in round 1. Then it would have one heck of a late night wrestleback just to make it to day 2 if you lost early. My few appearances there I was lucky enough get the early wins and then head back to the hotel to rest up while most had to battle on in the consols. I lost first round as a freshman and wrestled all the way back. Decided to never do that again and made the finals the next three years. However, senior year first round was Qualyn Boone (6th at state) and I. My side of the bracket placed 1st/3rd/4th/5th/7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nieman Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 9:34 PM, Wrestlingfan937 said: They have new coaching staff this year, maybe if we get lucky things will get better. I'll stick up for the former Connersville coaches on this one. They ALWAYS pushed for wifi and track wrestling in the Spartan Bowl. They went to their AD with a presentation of how it would improve the tournament and improve the revenue for the school if they spent the money to modernize the tournament but still got shot down every year. It's really a shame, this part of the state could really use a high-quality holiday tournament. jleising and Y2CJ41 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Al smith is always a great tournament, Steve continues to make it tougher every year Triacoff always has great teams 5 duals, Cp being out hurt last year. westfield has done a great job of building up their Duals bringing in new squads every year Mater dei holiday classic- anytime you have a team like mater dei with their studs then you reach outside the state to bring in tough out of state teams is great Crown Point is building something special with the Caranhan some top teams from Ohio, Michigan illinois and Brownsburg and Crown Point that thing will be so good. The exciting thing is they want to add more talented teams every year. Out of state teams St Paris Grahm OH, Legacy Christian OH, Marmian Catholic IL, Homewood Flossmor IL, Davison MI, Lowell Mi,Elyria OH Cricket21, Steven Sandefer, Paycheck141 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zebra Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 7:47 PM, 1prouddad said: Which says a lot about why that team is always near or at the top. You’re only as good as your competition and when you seek out the best, you become the best. This has to be the toughest schedule in the state am I wrong?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stith Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 1:27 PM, Holden said: I never won Connersville. Got beat by Josh Stith of Jeffersonville. Then drew him on Friday night. That Jeffersonville team was nails. Doherty and Rosbottom repeated as state champs that year. From what I remember Josh, I was not excited to draw you first round at state. I considered you one of the best wrestlers at our weight, and most likely to win it all that year. Especially after our match at Connersville. (Which I thought I got lucky to win) I knew I’d have to wrestle a perfect match to beat you at state. Which I obviously did not do lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stith Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 6:47 PM, MattM said: Should have thrown the headlock on him first, before he unleashed one. It works for me once in freestyle. I tried like hell! But Holden was just a better wrestler than me and my luck ran out first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 18 hours ago, Stith said: From what I remember Josh, I was not excited to draw you first round at state. I considered you one of the best wrestlers at our weight, and most likely to win it all that year. Especially after our match at Connersville. (Which I thought I got lucky to win) I knew I’d have to wrestle a perfect match to beat you at state. Which I obviously did not do lol. Whatever, man. You were a stud. You beat my butt at Connersville, I just had a good state tournament. I was defiantly no the best kid in that weight. It was loaded. You, Maldonado, Koers, etc... I'm just honored to be mentioned with you guys. Bunch of class acts. PS I wouldn't wrestle you now. I see you on Facebook kicking people's butts all the time . PSS Remember the world police and fire games when you wrestled Derek Donelson. It was cool to get to coach in that. Stith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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