Jayruss Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Most refer to the 2003 MD team the best team in Indiana wrestling history, but 2021 MD broke the state record for team points. (2003 listed first followed by ‘21). I considered taking out a weight class so that they align better, but if someone could make it more equitable and possibly list each ones placement that could help this hypothetical a lot! 103/106 Brian Bittner vs Evan Seng 112/113- Bryan Williams vs Reed Egli 119/120- John Hillenbrand vs Cole Ross 125/126- Craig Macke vs Jacob Pierre 130/132-Matt Coughlin vs Alec Freeman 135/138- Aaron scott vs Blake Boarman 140/145 -Joe Lehman vs Ashton Hayhurst 145/152- Craig Weinzapfel vs. Scott Fitts 152/160- Nathan Weinzapfel vs Brody Baumann 160/170- Dustin Nosko vs Blake Weidner 171/182 Sam Wildeman vs Gabe Sollars 189/195- Blake Mauer vs Clay Martin 215/220- Thomas Unfried vs Nick Boots 275/285-Chad Schwartz vs James Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 106 Bittner vs Seng - Seng dec 0-3 113 Williams vs Egli - Williams dec 3-3 120 Hillenbrand vs Ross - Ross maj 3-7 126 Macke vs Pierre - Macke pin 9-7 132 Coughlin vs Freeman - great match up. Teacher beats the student 12-7 138 Scott vs Boarman - Boarman dec 12-10 145 Lehman vs Hayhurst - hayhurst dec 12-13 152 Weinzapfel vs Fitts - Weinz maj 16-13 160 Nosko vs Baumann - Another great one. Total toss up. give me Baumann 16-16 170 Wildeman vs Weidner - Wildeman pin 22-16 182 Maurer vs Sollars - Maurer dec 25-16 195 J Coughlin here vs Martin - Coughlin dec 31-16 220 Unfried vs Boots - Unfried dec 34-16 285 Schwartz vs Ralph - Ralph dec 34-19 did some bumping to make the lineups work. I think '03 is a pretty strong favorite. Don't forget that if they kept the team score in '03, they would smashed the record and it would still stand today. Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayruss Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, ReformedPoster said: 106 Bittner vs Seng - Seng dec 0-3 113 Williams vs Egli - Williams dec 3-3 120 Hillenbrand vs Ross - Ross maj 3-7 126 Macke vs Pierre - Macke pin 9-7 132 Coughlin vs Freeman - great match up. Teacher beats the student 12-7 138 Scott vs Boarman - Boarman dec 12-10 145 Lehman vs Hayhurst - hayhurst dec 12-13 152 Weinzapfel vs Fitts - Weinz maj 16-13 160 Nosko vs Baumann - Another great one. Total toss up. give me Baumann 16-16 170 Wildeman vs Weidner - Wildeman pin 22-16 182 Maurer vs Sollars - Maurer dec 25-16 195 J Coughlin here vs Martin - Coughlin dec 31-16 220 Unfried vs Boots - Unfried dec 34-16 285 Schwartz vs Ralph - Ralph dec 34-19 did some bumping to make the lineups work. I think '03 is a pretty strong favorite. Don't forget that if they kept the team score in '03, they would smashed the record and it would still stand today. Didnt realize that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayruss Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 Mauer vs Sollars would be , and thanks for translating it over to the current weight classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestleMan Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Nosko vs. Baumann would be wild for sure. I'll take Baumann though with a late lat drop to secure the win. And I'll take Maurer over Sollars by 3. ReformedPoster, FCFIGHTER170 and Jayruss 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Hayhurst vs Lehman would be money too..Nosko was ice cold and his mat IQ was top notch..Baumman is a monster and would put a pace on him..Milius was a specimen and a takedown machine into until he ran into Noskos chin Whip! So many great match ups and I'm telling you Aaron Scott and Boarman is another sleeper that goes either way.. Seeing then both a ton, i like that match up with Boarman in a tight one. Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 hours ago, WrestleMan said: Nosko vs. Baumann would be wild for sure. I'll take Baumann though with a late lat drop to secure the win. And I'll take Maurer over Sollars by 3. I don't see Nosko getting tossed, he was very savvy every where but Baumann is a physical yet technical stud at the same time and I think his strength would be the difference paired with his speed..Nosko could hit big moves every where and time and time again did stuff to show he was never out of a match... Almost like Bill nye science guy that would tech you while smiling being respectful yet dominant lol Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, FCFIGHTER170 said: Hayhurst vs Lehman would be money too..Nosko was ice cold and his mat IQ was top notch..Baumman is a monster and would put a pace on him..Milius was a specimen and a takedown machine into until he ran into Noskos chin Whip! So many great match ups and I'm telling you Aaron Scott and Boarman is another sleeper that goes either way.. Seeing then both a ton, i like that match up with Boarman in a tight one. I'm not sure Nosko could handle the pace that Baumann would bring. Baumann wins by 5 points or so. I think Boarman wins comfortably vs Scott. For comparison's sake, Alex Tsirtsis completely mauled Scott by tech fall in the semis in '03. Boarman wrestled a comparable (probably an even better) opponent in the semi's this year and while the outcome wasn't in doubt, he made mendez work for it. I just don't think Scott was near the same level that Boarman is. Boarman wins comfortably, possibly even by major. Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) On 5/12/2021 at 5:39 PM, ReformedPoster said: I'm not sure Nosko could handle the pace that Baumann would bring. Baumann wins by 5 points or so. I think Boarman wins comfortably vs Scott. For comparison's sake, Alex Tsirtsis completely mauled Scott by tech fall in the semis in '03. Boarman wrestled a comparable (probably an even better) opponent in the semi's this year and while the outcome wasn't in doubt, he made mendez work for it. I just don't think Scott was near the same level that Boarman is. Boarman wins comfortably, possibly even by major. Very well good be right I just know regardless the wrestler EMD kids rise to the occasion most of the time..I think Baumann wins as well but not with ease in the slightest..Boarman a stud just don't see him majoring scott. Edited May 18, 2021 by FCFIGHTER170 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayruss Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 hours ago, FCFIGHTER170 said: Hayhurst vs Lehman would be money too..Nosko was ice cold and his mat IQ was top notch..Baumman is a monster and would put a pace on him..Milius was a specimen and a takedown machine into until he ran into Noskos chin Whip! So many great match ups and I'm telling you Aaron Scott and Boarman is another sleeper that goes either way.. Seeing then both a ton, i like that match up with Boarman in a tight one. Scott was underrated, stud. FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestleMan Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 4:23 PM, FCFIGHTER170 said: I don't see Nosko getting tossed, he was very savvy every where but Baumann is a physical yet technical stud at the same time and I think his strength would be the difference paired with his speed..Nosko could hit big moves every where and time and time again did stuff to show he was never out of a match... Almost like Bill nye science guy that would tech you while smiling being respectful yet dominant lol The late lat drop for the win was a joke in reference to his win this year. I wasn't actually suggesting Baumann would toss him. I'm sure it would be a very entertaining match. FCFIGHTER170 and ReformedPoster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90s wrestler Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 7:22 AM, Jayruss said: Most refer to the 2003 MD team the best team in Indiana wrestling history, but 2021 MD broke the state record for team points. (2003 listed first followed by ‘21). I considered taking out a weight class so that they align better, but if someone could make it more equitable and possibly list each ones placement that could help this hypothetical a lot! 103/106 Brian Bittner vs Evan Seng 112/113- Bryan Williams vs Reed Egli 119/120- John Hillenbrand vs Cole Ross 125/126- Craig Macke vs Jacob Pierre 130/132-Matt Coughlin vs Alec Freeman 135/138- Aaron scott vs Blake Boarman 140/145 -Joe Lehman vs Ashton Hayhurst 145/152- Craig Weinzapfel vs. Scott Fitts 152/160- Nathan Weinzapfel vs Brody Baumann 160/170- Dustin Nosko vs Blake Weidner 171/182 Sam Wildeman vs Gabe Sollars 189/195- Blake Mauer vs Clay Martin 215/220- Thomas Unfried vs Nick Boots 275/285-Chad Schwartz vs James Ralph Nosko was 152 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90s wrestler Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 On 5/13/2021 at 1:39 AM, ReformedPoster said: I'm not sure Nosko could handle the pace that Baumann would bring. Baumann wins by 5 points or so. I think Boarman wins comfortably vs Scott. For comparison's sake, Alex Tsirtsis completely mauled Scott by tech fall in the semis in '03. Boarman wrestled a comparable (probably an even better) opponent in the semi's this year and while the outcome wasn't in doubt, he made mendez work for it. I just don't think Scott was near the same level that Boarman is. Boarman wins comfortably, possibly even by major. Woah Woah, apply the brakes, Nosko also had 8 state freestyle championships and 2 nationals. What does Boarman have?? All these guys in a hurry to give Nosko the loss should've been there when he was he just playing with guys for years. FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, 90s wrestler said: Woah Woah, apply the brakes, Nosko also had 8 state freestyle championships and 2 nationals. What does Boarman have?? All these guys in a hurry to give Nosko the loss should've been there when he was he just playing with guys for years. Very high Wrestling IQ as well... Him and Macke both. Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReformedPoster Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, 90s wrestler said: Woah Woah, apply the brakes, Nosko also had 8 state freestyle championships and 2 nationals. What does Boarman have?? All these guys in a hurry to give Nosko the loss should've been there when he was he just playing with guys for years. Baumann, not Boarman. Nosko was really, really good. Saw him wrestle from the time he was little. He could certainly win this hypothetical match up. Recency bias may be at play here, but Baumann seems like he has the better gas tank and I think that would be the difference. FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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