formercollegekid Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Silence Dogood said: Indianapolis Lutheran is probably in the running. According to the website I found they are at 225. . . Thats pretty small. Oak Hill is at 552 Crawford County is at 450 Cowan is at 370ish BrodyHardcastle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetwrestling Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Adams Central sits in the 375 range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honyock Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Tell City is at 420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRightWay Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) The Cowan number is 7-12 grades. US News & World Report has them at 231. Edited February 17, 2021 by TheRightWay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 14 hours ago, Ahawkeye said: Ahhhh yes, but they never count MD because we "recruit". And we're not a real small school because All of the kids that go there are from rich families that decided to go to MD and play sports. I’ve never liked that narrative. Growing up Catholic i can testify to the fact that most aren’t rich. It’s the culture and tradition you have. Good luck this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog195 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I’m gonna throw out Jed perry and will fiechter from southern wells ( Poneto, IN) now that’s one small town with 2-3 stop signs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 hours ago, GenHeavyHandz said: I’ve never liked that narrative. Growing up Catholic i can testify to the fact that most aren’t rich. It’s the culture and tradition you have. Good luck this weekend. Good luck to everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyquhp13 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 6:23 PM, Ahawkeye said: Ahhhh yes, but they never count MD because we "recruit". And we're not a real small school because All of the kids that go there are from rich families that decided to go to MD and play sports. I have to say I root against MD like I rooted against Joe Montana in the 80's . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greco165 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I have to think the state champion from the smallest school was Ryan Pribble. Some schools mentioned here are 500-600, that's not small. Turkey Run is small. Greg Ratliff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, tyquhp13 said: I have to say I root against MD like I rooted against Joe Montana in the 80's . You and everyone else too. tyquhp13 and manchwrestlingdad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Class 2A Princeton has a good one in Drake Stein. He was only a 2x State Champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWwrestling Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 22 hours ago, maddog195 said: I’m gonna throw out Jed perry and will fiechter from southern wells ( Poneto, IN) now that’s one small town with 2-3 stop signs Got to add Seth Biberstine from Southern Wells. The one and only Semi-State champ from SW was a freak athlete at 220lbs back in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 50 minutes ago, SWwrestling said: Got to add Seth Biberstine from Southern Wells. The one and only Semi-State champ from SW was a freak athlete at 220lbs back in 2012. He was a lot of fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/17/2021 at 10:12 AM, GenHeavyHandz said: I’ve never liked that narrative. Growing up Catholic i can testify to the fact that most aren’t rich. It’s the culture and tradition you have. Good luck this weekend. I went to EMD and both my parents made a combined $27,000. 85% of the kids there were just good ole west side, St Phillip's, and St Wendell middle class people. Maybe 5% of the kid there were filthy rich IU89 and Ahawkeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, PhillyFanMD said: I went to EMD and both my parents made a combined $27,000. 85% of the kids there were just good ole west side, St Phillip's, and St Wendell middle class people. Maybe 5% of the kid there were filthy rich Yup! I hear you there! IU89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, PhillyFanMD said: I went to EMD and both my parents made a combined $27,000. 85% of the kids there were just good ole west side, St Phillip's, and St Wendell middle class people. Maybe 5% of the kid there were filthy rich A logical person would know that wrestling is just not a rich persons sport. You have to be pretty tough to excel at it. I grew up around rich kids. They didn’t wrestle and the ones that did weren’t that good. Now there are exceptions to every rule. But adversity usually forges a good wrestler from my experience. Even my area people always say the Snider or Homestead or Carroll kids are rich. People obviously don’t know what rich is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, GenHeavyHandz said: A logical person would know that wrestling is just not a rich persons sport. You have to be pretty tough to excel at it. I grew up around rich kids. They didn’t wrestle and the ones that did weren’t that good. Now there are exceptions to every rule. But adversity usually forges a good wrestler from my experience. Even my area people always say the Snider or Homestead or Carroll kids are rich. People obviously don’t know what rich is. You have have seen students driving BMW and Mercedes at your school but never such a thing Mater Dei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianMdFan Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Every single MD kid iwrestlecuzimcool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, GenHeavyHandz said: A logical person would know that wrestling is just not a rich persons sport. But you have to admit that, just like most sports these days, with the evolution of academies, clinics, camps, year round events, etc, giving some athletes a more quality experiences and mat time our sport hasn’t exactly been catering to those who aren’t at solidly footed in the middle class or higher. Edited February 18, 2021 by MattM gsmith58 and jjenkins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, MattM said: But you have to admit that, just like most sports these days, with the evolution of academies, clinics, camps, year round events, etc, giving some athletes a more quality experiences and mat time our sport hasn’t exactly been catering to those who aren’t at solidly footed in the middle class or higher. I don’t know. My best friend was a state champ. Poor. My cousin was a state champ. Poor. My uncles multiple placings. Poor. My son’s have won National titles and state titles currently in youth wrestling. I ain’t rich. I think the money does give some an advantage in the beginning. But in the end the individual decides if they want to be a champion. The work makes you a champion: not some academy. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, MattM said: But you have to admit that, just like most sports these days, with the evolution of academies, clinics, camps, year round events, etc, giving some athletes a more quality experiences and mat time our sport hasn’t exactly been catering to those who aren’t at solidly footed in the middle class or higher. True but EMD kids are BLESSED with a plethora of great coaching. If they can't hack paying for a wrestling academy they have a bunch of coaches at school and teammates that wrestle with MCWC. Not to mention family members at home or uncles who will drop everything for a wrestling match or question or "hey let's try this". When you see the same names year after year or can tie these kids to those names it is apparent that you don't need a ton of money to to find a good coach or wrestling partner on the Westside of Evansville. Edited February 18, 2021 by Ahawkeye IU89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, MattM said: But you have to admit that, just like most sports these days, with the evolution of academies, clinics, camps, year round events, etc, giving some athletes a more quality experiences and mat time our sport hasn’t exactly been catering to those who aren’t at solidly footed in the middle class or higher. Doesn't that pretty much apply to most if not all sports now? With more kids specializing in just one sport, I think that's become the norm. AAU in basketball, travel baseball and soccer, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, Ahawkeye said: True but EMD kids are BLESSED with a plethora of great coaching. If they can't hack paying for a wrestling academy they have a bunch of coaches at school and teammates that wrestle with MCWC. Not to mention family members at home or uncles who will drop everything for a wrestling match or question or "hey let's try this". When you see the same names year after year or can tie these kids to those names it is apparent that you don't need a ton of money to to find a good coach or wrestling partner on the Westside of Evansville. All of that is true and part of what makes up their tradition. But Mater Dei is special and has built a tradition like no other program. That tradition, local backing, passion, along with many of the great wrestlers from the past sticking around makes it unique for the size of the school. Is there another small school program in the state in any sport that has excelled similar to Mater Dei? Google lists MD's total enrollment at 498. Many of the bigger schools have more boys than that in a single grade. The only one I can think of that might compare is Evansville Memorial and Soccer. But even that, it's not the same. There may be others I don't know about, but if so, those would be special situations as well. Ahawkeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith58 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, GenHeavyHandz said: I don’t know. My best friend was a state champ. Poor. My cousin was a state champ. Poor. My uncles multiple placings. Poor. My son’s have won National titles and state titles currently in youth wrestling. I ain’t rich. I think the money does give some an advantage in the beginning. But in the end the individual decides if they want to be a champion. The work makes you a champion: not some academy. Just my opinion. I agree with you that work is necessary, but it insufficient when your opponent is also working. And really, how many of the kids this weekend aren't putting in the work? Academies, great programs, coaches & drill partners, travel experience, private lessons are a significant edge. Can a hard working kid find those (or vice-versa), maybe but it is a hurdle. It would be interesting to know how many academy kids are competing this weekend. I think it would be a relatively large percentage. Edited February 18, 2021 by gsmith58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/17/2021 at 1:31 AM, formercollegekid said: According to the website I found they are at 225. . . Thats pretty small. Oak Hill is at 552 Crawford County is at 450 Cowan is at 370ish I love that INDIANAMAT has the population of each teams Town in their bio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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