smitty11 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just had a chance to watch that dual. Great dual, two good teams. Not sure if it has been stated but CP seemed to make an error on bumping kids up. If Bahl goes 113 they get 3 most likely, Fazier goes 120 they get 3 and forfeit 126 or put in somebody Seltzer gets 6. Final would have been 31-27. Not sure what weight Seltzer weighed in at but really doesn't matter. Anyway great dual. Also surprised Roberson was not going for a Pin they had to know they lost criteria on Cathedral having won more wins on the meet. Only chance was for him to get a pin. CP seemed to have thought they won on criteria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Do you think CP had criteria figured out? I say no. Bahl doesn’t beat Reyes. I think they maximized their points in that match. And Cathedral left 3-5 points on table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 A really exciting dual ending in a tie. Cp being up a weight 113-126 with Goin being out. Cathedral showed why they are the champs saving some falls and winning toss up matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shoey said: Do you think CP had criteria figured out? I say no. Bahl doesn’t beat Reyes. I think they maximized their points in that match. And Cathedral left 3-5 points on table. I disagree I do think bahl beats Reyes, Frazier beats graham and I would say Cp left points on the board at 32,45 and I don’t think Dickey pins Cruz IMO JMILL and JORVILLE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty11 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Good dual but disagree that CP seemed to maximize points in the dual. CP coaches seem to be really good and have a great program. Maybe a lot went into the decision but think you gotta take the chance Bahl beats Reyes 113 and Frazier wins at 120 and cruz keeps it close at 106. Like I said if Seltzer weighted in at 120 then it could have been a chess match. Did Cathedral have anybody out? I think CP was missing a ranked wrestler at 126?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 CHS left points on the board at 70,82,220,126. Also, Gonzalez doesnt lose to Roberson like that without marching orders. Podium kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty11 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shoey said: CHS left points on the board at 70,82,220,126. Also, Gonzalez doesnt lose to Roberson like that without marching orders. Podium kid. Maybe you right with 70,82,220, but still my point is that all that was settled and CP bumped up weights as the dual started at 138. So after HW was over CP did not have to bump up weights. Maybe for some reason they did and only the coaches know but just watching it without knowing it seemed they could have wrestled 113 and 120 without bumping weights Shoey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 132 Stephen Roberson (Crown Point) over Luke Gonzalez (Indianapolis Cathedral) (TF 22-7 5:43) 0 5 138 Jesse Mendez (Crown Point) over Jackson Edwards (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Fall 0:50) 0 6 145 Cody Goodwin (Crown Point) over JJ Braun (Indianapolis Cathedral) (TF 21-5 5:58) 0 5 152 Javen Estrada (Crown Point) over Gabe Bragg(Indianapolis Cathedral) (Fall 0:54) 0 6 160 Andrew Wilson (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Orlando Cruz (Crown Point) (Dec 5-3) 3 0 170 Ulrik Urasky (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Nick Tattini (Crown Point) (MD 17-5) 4 0 182 Johnny Parker (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Jacob Carter (Crown Point) (Dec 11-6) 3 0 195 Seth Willems (Crown Point) over Grayson Harvey (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 7-3) 0 3 220 David Guhl (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Paul Clark (Crown Point) (Dec 6-3) 3 0 285 Lane Fowler (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Jack Ruess (Crown Point) (Dec 6-2) 3 0 106 Evan Dickey (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Kaptur Nowaczyk (Crown Point) (TF 24-9 5:29) 5 0 113 Aden Reyes (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Evan Cruz (Crown Point) (MD 13-4) 4 0 120 Anthony Bahl (Crown Point) over Dillon Graham(Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 6-3) 0 3 126 Zeke Seltzer (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Logan Frazier (Crown Point) (Dec 10-3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Shoey said: CHS left points on the board at 70,82,220,126. Also, Gonzalez doesnt lose to Roberson like that without marching orders. Podium kid. Hmmm Gonzalez might be a podium kid, Roberson has been on twice. 70 uransky gets more then a major against a returning SQ parker decisioned CP’s back up 82 because their 95 didn’t wrestle. So Parker majors Willems who is their varsity? 220 Guhl I thought would be bonus 126- Zeke should major a returning semi finalist? Who beat a pan am champ in the 3rd/4th place match CP tied with out Cruz at 6(who just went sudden victory with Bailey) Goin at 126 who is a returning medalist that just wrestled Wagner to a decision and Clark at 95 probably the best dual of the year. Sig40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 The dual is on the RSN Facebook page. Unfortunately these 2 will not wrestle a dual again this season. I will say this Catherdral is the champs and they find a way to win. It is pretty amazing the way they get their guys to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitty11 Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 Great dual! Dual definitely started at 138 tho. Looking at the box score it seems it ended at 126. 132 Roberson vs. Gonzalez was the final match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Always in a big dual there are key matches and I think 160 was it. That could be a state finals preview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig40 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I knew 113, 160, and HWT were swing matches, unfortunately we lost all 3. I was really hoping we could rely on the big dogs to get falls, but they both got TF’s instead. Oh well I guess we will see them at team state... oh wait we didn’t accept the bid again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggin89 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 17 hours ago, smitty11 said: Also surprised Roberson was not going for a Pin they had to know they lost criteria on Cathedral having won more wins on the meet. Only chance was for him to get a pin. CP seemed to have thought they won on criteria? The only thought that I had regarding not having Roberson get the fall was that possibly (and I do not know what the coaches might have been thinking by any means) the coaches thought that the Coaches Misconduct was an Unsportsmanlike Conduct on Seltzer when he questioned a call early in the match as that is the first criterion. But because it was a Coaches Misconduct that was called, it obviously does not go to that criterion. ART. 2 . . . In dual-meet competition, if teams have identical scores, the following team tie-breaking system shall be used to determine the winner. a. The team whose opposing wrestlers or team personnel has been penalized the greater number of team points for flagrant or unsportsmanlike conduct shall be declared the winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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