ENoblewrestling Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) In terms of prestige, talent, the event, what would you consider the top 10 events in Indiana Wrestling? It was the ISWA Folkstyle State finals that got me thinking about this. So anyhow here is my list with about 5 minutes of thought put into it. 1. IHSAA State Finals 2. IHSAA Semi-State 3. IHSWCA Team State 4. ISWA Folkstyle State 5. Al Smith 6. ISWA Freestyle/Greco State 7. IHPO 8. Mater Dei Holiday Classic 9. Middle School State 10. Connersville Spartan Classic- We go there so this maybe a bit of a homer pick! Edited March 9, 2020 by ENoblewrestling Jayruss and DHEATHMMAWC260 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I think I counted 23* DI qualifiers that wrestled at IHPO. WrestleMan, anskinne and IU89 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENoblewrestling Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said: I think I counted 16 DI qualifiers that wrestled at IHPO. Yeah that was what made the list kind of fun. I had/think the IHPO could be as high as 3 or 4 on this list. I kind of thought about what I would like my kids to win the most... I think that winning an ISWA state title is a bigger deal than winning the IHPO, even though the IHPO may have better talent if that makes sense. Edited March 9, 2020 by ENoblewrestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, ENoblewrestling said: Yeah that was what made the list kind of fun. I had/think the IHPO could be as high as 3 or 4 on this list. I kind of thought about what I would like my kids to win the most... I think that winning an ISWA state title is a bigger deal than winning the IHPO, even though the IHPO may have better talent if that makes sense. I checked and looked at the past entries, 23 so far. Danny Braunagel Zac Braunagel Cam Caffey Tony Cassioppi Evan Cheek Kendall Coleman Ben Darmstadt Lucas Davison Dakota Geer Noah Gonser Ben Harvey Josh Heil Drew Hughes Brayton Lee Nick Lee Dylan Lydy Andrew Marten Kordell Norfleet Thomas Penola Taleb Rahmani Graham Rooks Gable Steveson Kanen Storr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: I checked and looked at the past entries, 23 so far. Danny Braunagel Zac Braunagel Cam Caffey Tony Cassioppi Evan Cheek Kendall Coleman Ben Darmstadt Lucas Davison Dakota Geer Noah Gonser Ben Harvey Josh Heil Drew Hughes Brayton Lee Nick Lee Dylan Lydy Andrew Marten Kordell Norfleet Thomas Penola Taleb Rahmani Graham Rooks Gable Steveson Kanen Storr Asa garcia Nick willham Carson Brewer Ty mills Could add to the last in coming years as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I'd move IHPO up above Free/Greco state DHEATHMMAWC260 and PMFAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) IHPO 3rd. I was just talking about this this weekend with one of our state runner up boys. On the national scale, I would call this a 2nd tier event. Right behind events like Super 32, Flo, NHSCA nationals, and Fargo. I consider IHPO to be equal to events like the Fall Grappler Classic or the Ohio Tournament of Champions. Indy Nationals and Frosh/Soph state should be on that list too. Edited March 9, 2020 by Mattyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 There are probably more college coaches at IHPO than our state finals. There are many reasons for it, timing, number of competitors, multitude of states represented, etc, but we routinely have 15-20 different colleges represented at the event. DHEATHMMAWC260 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENoblewrestling Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, Mattyb said: IHPO 3rd. I was just talking about this this weekend with one of our state runner up boys. On the national scale, I would call this a 2nd tier event. Right behind events like Super 32, Flo, NHSCA nationals, and Fargo. I consider IHPO to be equal to events like the Fall Grappler Classic or the Ohio Tournament of Champions. Indy Nationals and Frosh/Soph state should be on that list too. How would you rank them? I have never been to Indy Nationals, but would agree that Frosh/Soph state should pry bump the Spartan Classic lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 1. IHSAA State Series 2. IHPO 3. IHSWCA Team State Rest is a toss up 4-10, could throw in #3 Team State also cause it doesn’t showcase best wrestlers in the State, (pick’em, vote in) so that’s why the thumbs down . MO. Edited March 9, 2020 by TeamGarcia Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: There are probably more college coaches at IHPO than our state finals. There are many reasons for it, timing, number of competitors, multitude of states represented, etc, but we routinely have 15-20 different colleges represented at the event. Bro....no spotlight, its in the Wayne, I've never been (closest I got was Fishers once before I turned around), No Whitehead, No Suites.... I could go on and on... Oh no special presentation for wrestling's biggest advocate ever - Bobby Cox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, ENoblewrestling said: How would you rank them? I have never been to Indy Nationals, but would agree that Frosh/Soph state should pry bump the Spartan Classic lol. I would go... 1. IHSAA State (would be much lower if it was classed) 2. IHSAA semI-state (all as one) 3. IHPO 4. Middle School State (One of the nations best) 5. High school team state 6. ISWA State 7. Al Smith 8. Freestyle / Greco State 9. Frosh / Soph State 10. Indy Nationals 11. EMD holiday classic 12. Marion County Tourney 13. Lake County Tourney 14. DAC conference (tie) 14. HCC conference (tie) 16. Mooresville Regional 17. Mooresville Holiday Classic 18. Spartan Classic 19. ISWA Elementary team state 20. Girls High School State Edited March 9, 2020 by Mattyb FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, TripleB said: Bro....no spotlight, its in the Wayne, I've never been (closest I got was Fishers once before I turned around), No Whitehead, No Suites.... I could go on and on... Oh no special presentation for wrestling's biggest advocate ever - Bobby Cox. I remember you stopping in the Wayne one time for lunch with yours truly about four years ago. We will bring in snow cones this year just to one-up the state finals. TripleB and FCFIGHTER170 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said: I remember you stopping in the Wayne one time for lunch with yours truly about four years ago. We will bring in snow cones this year just to one-up the state finals. Last time I was supposed go I got called to storm work in Florida.. Most home sick I've ever been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoCoach Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Schoolboy National Duals? Are they still hosted here in Indiana? I know the kids are younger, but it's still quite big with a lot of talent from across the nation. Mattyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, GrecoCoach said: Schoolboy National Duals? Are they still hosted here in Indiana? I know the kids are younger, but it's still quite big with a lot of talent from across the nation. Revised: 1. IHSAA State (would be much lower if it was classed) 2. IHSAA semI-state (all as one) 3. IHPO 4. Middle School State (One of the nations best) 5. High school team state 6. Schoolboy Duals 7. ISWA State 8. Al Smith 9. Scholastic Duals 10. Freestyle / Greco State 11. Frosh / Soph State 12. Indy Nationals 13. EMD holiday classic 14. Marion County Tourney 15. Lake County Tourney 16. DAC conference (tie) 16. HCC conference (tie) 18. Mooresville Regional 19. Mooresville Holiday Classic 20. Spartan Classic 21. ISWA Elementary team state 22. Girls High School State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Here are the quarter-final match-ups from this year's IHPO and the state results(note that Ohio has not held their state finals yet). 106 Alexander Ocampo Beast Mode over David Javier Columbus - Indiana Qualifier('19) vs. Ohio Qualifier 106 Gavin Caprella Team Stomp over Evan Cruz Bulldog Premier - Ohio Qualifier vs.???106 Sammy Goin Bulldog Premier over Logan Miller Contenders WA - Indiana 5th vs. Indiana 1st106 Spencer Moore KY Extreme over Bryce Lowery Rebel Wrestling - Kentucky 1st vs. Indiana 4th 113 Cole Thomas Ryle High School over Suhas Chundi Carmel USA WC - Kentucky 1st vs. Indiana 3rd 113 Jacob Simone CIA over Isaac Thornton KY Extreme - Indiana 8th('19) vs. Kentucky 2nd113 Sergio Lemley Region WA over Kamariyon Nelson Red Cobra WA - Illinois 1st vs. Indiana 6th('19) 113 Tanner Gerber Crass Trained over Andrew Austin Charlotte - Wisconsin 1st vs. Florida 4th 120 Colton Drousias Region WA over Alex Barbarise Antioch - Illinois 3rd vs. Illinois 8th120 Elon Rodriguez Izzy Style over Jacob Mann Thoroughbred - Illinois 2nd vs. Missouri 1st 120 Riley Bettich Bulldog Premier over David Pierson iii Warren WA - Indiana 4th vs. Indiana 4th120 Zeke Seltzer Fighting Irish over Landon Bertsch Bluffton - Indiana 1st vs. Indiana Qualifier 126 Alec Freeman MCWA over Beau Humphrey Snider WC - Indiana 6th vs. Indiana Qualifier126 Brayden Littell Red Cobra WA over Kysen Montgomery Brownsburg WC - Indiana 1st('19) vs. Indiana 3rd 126 Stephen Roberson Bulldog Premier over Dayton Hall MCWA - Indiana 5th vs. Illinois 6th 126 Tommy Curran Dekalb WC over Ashton Hayhurst MCWA - Illinois 2nd vs. Indiana Qualifier132 Brayden Lowery Rebel Wrestling over Pierson Manville Pinnacle - Indiana 1st vs. Minnesota 3rd132 Jesse Mendez Bulldog Premier over Blake Boarman MCWA - Indiana 1st vs. Indiana 1st 132 Ray Rioux Avon WC over Thomas Hoppes No-Ox WC - Indiana 2nd vs. Kentucky 2nd132 Shane Williams Michigan West WC over Ethan Turner Troy Christian - Michigan 1st vs. Ohio Qualifier 138 Blake Saito Team Miron over Elijah Reyes Antioch - Ohio Qualifier vs. Illinois 8th 138 Drake Campbell Red Cobra WA over James Conway Invicta - Indiana 5th vs. Indiana 6th138 Jake Insko MCWA over Zac Cowan Carr WA - Kentucky 1st vs. Kentucky 3rd 138 Logan Bailey Fighting Irish over Kendall Norfleet Harvey Twisters - Indiana 2nd vs.???145 Alec Viduya Rebel Wrestling over Matthew Koontz Bloomington South - Indiana 1st vs. Indiana 2nd145 Austin Boone Lowell over Mason Kleinberg Springboro - Michigan 1st vs. Ohio Qualifier 145 Jaden Reynolds Red Cobra WA over Trace Braun St Paris Graham - Indiana 3rd vs. Ohio Qualifier145 Lucas Willis Charlotte over Jonah Smith Findlay - Florida 1st vs. Ohio Qualifier152 Brant Whitaker Purler over Jonathan Kervin Invicta - Missouri 1st vs. Indiana 1st 152 Bricelyn Coleman Warren WA over Nick Buchanan SAW - Indiana 5th vs. Michigan 6th 152 Bryer Hall East Central over Cody Mccune Huntington North - Indiana 2nd vs. Indiana Qualifier152 Dominick Lomazzo Dundee over Austin Awan Troy Christian - Michigan 1st vs. Ohio Qualifier 160 Andrew Shaffer Troy Christian over Brodie Porter CIA - Ohio Qualifier vs. Indiana Qualifier 160 Chase Fink NLW over Nicholas Bellaire Dundee - Kentucky 8th vs.??? 160 Cooper Noehre Greenfield WC over Isiah Levitz Prairie Heights - Indiana 5th vs. Indiana 4th160 Eli Dickens MCWA over Tyler Brandt Dewitt - Indiana 1st vs. Michigan 7th 170 Colton Blaha Owosso over Gabe Jacobs NLW - Michigan 2nd vs.???170 Dalton Russelburg Union County over Pate Eastin Unity HS - Kentucky 1st vs. Illinois 3rd 170 Graham Calhoun Plymouth over Nathan Critchfield MCWA - Indiana 3rd vs. Illinois 3rd 170 Travis Waldner DHS over Cody Rice Charlotte - Missouri 2nd vs. Florida 2nd 182 Evan Anderson Aurora over Mason Sutandar Delaware Hayes - Ohio Qualifier vs. Ohio Qualifier 182 Jacob Laplace Mishawaka over Jacob Brandt SAW - Indiana 2nd vs. Michigan 4th182 Joseph Walker Mishawaka over Noah White Team TOP - Indiana 1st vs. Indiana 7th 182 Macartney Parkinson MCWA over Corbin May Delaware Hayes - Indiana Qualifier vs. Ohio Qualifier 195 Colin Jagielski Team Relentless over Jon daniel Farrell Fishers - Michigan 2nd vs. Indiana 3rd195 Evan Bates Chesterton WC over Jacob Huffman Fighting Irish - Indiana 1st vs. Indiana Qualifier 195 Jack Darrah Xtreme Training over Robert Bowman Region WA - Missouri 2nd vs.??? 195 Jake Viloria Saddle Up over Kyle Demoss Hilliard Bradley - Illinois Qualifier('19) vs. Ohio Qualifier 220 Cale Gray Norwell over Joshua Howell South Vigo - Indiana 6th vs. Indiana Qualifier('19) 220 Evan Shafer Connersville over Tony Ornelas Woodford Wrestling -??? vs.??? 220 Jake Noon Findlay over Jacob Meek Oregon Clay Eagles - Ohio Qualifier vs.??? 220 Levid Rodriguez Johnson Central over Ryan Martin Trinity high - Kentucky 3rd vs. Kentucky Qualifier 285 Alex Coleman Ross HS over Max Farmer Findlay - Ohio Qualifier vs.??? 285 Brodie Stevens Unattached over Brody Miskimon Elite Athletic Club - Ohio Qualifier vs.??? 285 Lucas Cook Marysville over Damari Dancy Portage WC -??? vs. Indiana 4th 285 Tyler Delooff Lowell over Tripp Johnson Springboro - Michigan 3rd vs. Ohio Qualifier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig40 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) On 3/8/2020 at 10:30 PM, ENoblewrestling said: In terms of prestige, talent, the event, what would you consider the top 10 events in Indiana Wrestling? It was the ISWA Folkstyle State finals that got me thinking about this. So anyhow here is my list with about 5 minutes of thought put into it. 1. IHSAA State Finals 2. IHSAA Semi-State 3. IHSWCA Team State 4. ISWA Folkstyle State 5. Al Smith 6. ISWA Freestyle/Greco State 7. IHPO 8. Mater Dei Holiday Classic 9. Middle School State 10. Connersville Spartan Classic- We go there so this maybe a bit of a homer pick! Our Priority list over the past few years. 1. IHSAA State (what the country looks at & what every kid dreams about) 2. IHPO (what rankers look at) 3. Al Smith (litmus test for state) 4. IHSAA Semi-State (my favorite brackets to look up) 5. Middle School State (great predictor of HS success) 6. IHSWCA Team State (CP will hopefully get to compete next year if date changes) 7. ISWA Folkstyle state (great big brackets against Indiana kids) 8. Indy Nationals (tough in state and out of state competition) 9. Schoolboy Duals(Best of the best come to us) 10. ISWA Freestyle/Greco State (My favorite styles, just isn't very popular in Indiana) Edited March 13, 2020 by Sig40 Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookie78 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Come on, no love for the NECC Tourney? Y2CJ41 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, rookie78 said: Come on, no love for the NECC Tourney? It's #1 in my heart if it matters any. rookie78 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig40 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: 132 Brayden Lowery Rebel Wrestling over Pierson Manville Pinnacle - Indiana 1st vs. Minnesota 3rd 132 Jesse Mendez Bulldog Premier over Blake Boarman MCWA - Indiana 1st vs. Indiana 1st 132 Ray Rioux Avon WC over Thomas Hoppes No-Ox WC - Indiana 2nd vs. Kentucky 2nd132 Shane Williams Michigan West WC over Ethan Turner Troy Christian - Michigan 1st vs. Ohio Qualifier This weights quarter finalist had 6 of 8 state champs and all 8 were finalist at some point in their HS career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Summar Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Mattyb said: Revised: 1. IHSAA State (would be much lower if it was classed) 2. IHSAA semI-state (all as one) 3. IHPO 4. Middle School State (One of the nations best) 5. High school team state 6. Schoolboy Duals 7. ISWA State 8. Al Smith 9. Scholastic Duals 10. Freestyle / Greco State 11. Frosh / Soph State 12. Indy Nationals 13. EMD holiday classic 14. Marion County Tourney 15. Lake County Tourney 16. DAC conference (tie) 16. HCC conference (tie) 18. Mooresville Regional 19. Mooresville Holiday Classic 20. Spartan Classic 21. ISWA Elementary team state 22. Girls High School State I would put the DAC and the Traicoff over the Lake county Tourney DrunkJoeNamath and Mattyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, D Summar said: I would put the DAC and the Traicoff over the Lake county Tourney I’ll take your word for it. I did leave Traicoff off the list. It should be on there. Good call! DrunkJoeNamath and D Summar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 16 hours ago, D Summar said: I would put the DAC and the Traicoff over the Lake county Tourney I agree I would also add Tom Cameron D Summar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageGhost Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 On 3/9/2020 at 11:56 AM, Mattyb said: Revised: 1. IHSAA State (would be much lower if it was classed) 2. IHSAA semI-state (all as one) 3. IHPO 4. Middle School State (One of the nations best) 5. High school team state 6. Schoolboy Duals 7. ISWA State 8. Al Smith 9. Scholastic Duals 10. Freestyle / Greco State 11. Frosh / Soph State 12. Indy Nationals 13. EMD holiday classic 14. Marion County Tourney 15. Lake County Tourney 16. DAC conference (tie) 16. HCC conference (tie) 18. Mooresville Regional 19. Mooresville Holiday Classic 20. Spartan Classic 21. ISWA Elementary team state 22. Girls High School State I would put any middle school JV tournament above Girls State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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