blueandgold Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 This team was really that good? I’ve had several legendary coaches that have coached scary squads in their own right say that this team gave them nightmares and my eyes light up every time hearing about it. 24-1 with their only loss to St. Paris Graham and the IndyStar named them the greatest Indiana high school wrestling team of all-time, saying that they unofficially would’ve scored 158 points in the state tournament that year. Ten qualifiers, seven medalists, two thirds, five finalists, and four of those were champions... They were really that good? Any stories you may have, please share. What they were like at tournaments, practice, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 No question mark needed. I’d say it should be read more as a statement. Take a look at Griffith squad from that year and be amazed the EMD squad as a whole could still find a way top them by a decent score. FCFIGHTER170 and moedaddy77 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, blueandgold said: This team was really that good? I’ve had several legendary coaches that have coached scary squads in their own right say that this team gave them nightmares and my eyes light up every time hearing about it. 24-1 with their only loss to St. Paris Graham and the IndyStar named them the greatest Indiana high school wrestling team of all-time, saying that they unofficially would’ve scored 158 points in the state tournament that year. Ten qualifiers, seven medalists, two thirds, five finalists, and four of those were champions... They were really that good? Any stories you may have, please share. What they were like at tournaments, practice, etc. Yes I know first hand..In 01-02 we wrestled that squad with all those studs and they beat us 66-3 at Team state when we placed 5th ..We were far from a slouch with 5 state qualifiers and 10 SSQ.. I ws lucky enough to have Mauer in the Dual.. That is still the record for the worst loss at team state.. and yes they were the best team I've ever seen hands down bar none. Edited February 25, 2020 by FCFIGHTER170 Steven Sandefer and Jayruss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) And our only win ws T.Coatie who placed 7th that season and he beat the state runner up Conkling in a war..He also beat the 2x state champion Danny Williams at individual semi state. Edited February 25, 2020 by FCFIGHTER170 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) When a state qualifier is the 10th best guy on their team you know they're unreal. Edited February 25, 2020 by FCFIGHTER170 Jayruss and runner-up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Here is the post season yearbook info from that season if you want some extra reading. https://www.ihsaa.org/archive/b-wrestling/03WrYearbook.pdf IU89 and FCFIGHTER170 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Not even the greatest recruiters today could ever put a team with 4 straight state champs like the Wildcats FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMFAN Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 13 hours ago, MattM said: Here is the post season yearbook info from that season if you want some extra reading. https://www.ihsaa.org/archive/b-wrestling/03WrYearbook.pdf How does that Lawerence North team in the 90's compare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahawkeye Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, PMFAN said: How does that Lawerence North team in the 90's compare? MD beat more than a few of those LN teams in the 90's. LN got some too but to this point I don't see too many Indiana high school teams beating that team. I wasn't around for the Bloomington/Bloomington North dynasty but I'd put my money on MD from 03. Edited February 25, 2020 by Ahawkeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpt189 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Crazy to think that if it wasn’t for Griffith, they may have had 7 champions, or at least 7 finalists PhillyFanMD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Can anybody provide any details from that MD/Paris Graham match? If I remember correctly it was a close dual with Maurer losing to Joe Dennis in a controversial match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence Dogood Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SIACfan said: Can anybody provide any details from that MD/Paris Graham match? If I remember correctly it was a close dual with Maurer losing to Joe Dennis in a controversial match. Good reading in this thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Thanks! Boy I sure didn't remember the dual score being that one sided, but reading Goebel's description it was actually closer than the score indicates with several 1 pt matches going to SPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, SIACfan said: Can anybody provide any details from that MD/Paris Graham match? If I remember correctly it was a close dual with Maurer losing to Joe Dennis in a controversial match. The Wildcats traveled to Columbus, Ohio on January 18 to compete in the National College Duals. Mater Dei rolled over, Lisbon, 56-12 in the first round, and Cincinnati Lakota East, 58-13, in the second round. Their last opponent, St. Paris Graham, was much more formidable. The national polls had Mater Dei at 11th, while St. Paris Graham was ranked second. St. Paris Graham was a buzz saw and defeated the ‘Cats, 39-15. The loss broke Mater Dei’s 116-match winning streak and handed Mater Dei its second dual loss in 253 matches. "If our streak mattered, we wouldn't have accepted this challenge,” said Mike Goebel. “We never talk about that. We just saw this as a chance to wrestle a quality opponent, somebody who will make us better in the long run.” St. Paris Graham was the real deal. Standard-bearer Blake Maurer lost only the second match of his career, a 3-1 decision to Joe Dennis. "It was a great match," said Goebel. “He (Dennis) got a takedown with two seconds left. We didn't question it when we were there, but when we watched the tape, Blake was clearly out of bounds and Dennis' foot was on the line. The match should've gone overtime, I guess. But that doesn't necessarily change the outcome. The guy was a bear. Blake will learn from it, go on and get better." "The guys came back to the room and decided they needed to work harder, and that's what they've done," said Goebel. "We didn't lose anything that really mattered, we just lost a match. But even at that, if we win all four of our close matches, it's a tie. And if we get those and Craig Weinzapfel gets the pin at 145, which we thought he had, well, we could conceivably win."Maurer faced an unfamiliar foe in his match with Dennis: Nerves. “To be totally honest, I was very nervous,” said Maurer. “The match was at Ohio State. I really wanted to go to Ohio State. After my warm-up, I look in the stands and there is Russ Hellickson (Ohio State’s wrestling coach) setting next to my dad. I’m like, ‘Holy crap, I need to get it done out here.’” Mater Dei tallied wins from Matt Coughlin, Craig Weinzapfel, Sam Wildeman and Chaz Schwartz. Schwartz won with an eight-second pin at heavyweight. The Wildcats were disappointed with their performance. “The whole dual was about ‘What ifs?’” said Craig Weinzapfel. “We had a bunch of one-point matches that went the wrong way. To not do our best was a real let-down.” In Paris St. Graham, Mater Dei found themselves sampling their own medicine. “Everywhere we wrestled, people always talked about what good shape we were in,” said Craig Weinzapfel. “That team (St. Paris Graham) was in incredible shape; incredibly strong. It seemed like they had the mentality that they were going to go as hard as they could no matter what.” “We were at the weigh-in,” said Wildeman. “I’m looking at this guy, and he is around my size (160 pounds). One of the guys on the team, said ‘No, that’s who Macke (125 pounds) has. The guy was huge. He was a man.” “Graham won all of the close matches,” said Maurer. “Their conditioning was better than ours. We had our opportunities; we just didn’t get it done.” backtothemat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderColfax Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Didn’t that ‘03 st Paris team feature dustin and cp schlatter, Cameron doggett and David Erwin? Geez that’s a squad right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderColfax Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, hook and half said: The Wildcats traveled to Columbus, Ohio on January 18 to compete in the National College Duals. Mater Dei rolled over, Lisbon, 56-12 in the first round, and Cincinnati Lakota East, 58-13, in the second round. Their last opponent, St. Paris Graham, was much more formidable. The national polls had Mater Dei at 11th, while St. Paris Graham was ranked second. St. Paris Graham was a buzz saw and defeated the ‘Cats, 39-15. The loss broke Mater Dei’s 116-match winning streak and handed Mater Dei its second dual loss in 253 matches. "If our streak mattered, we wouldn't have accepted this challenge,” said Mike Goebel. “We never talk about that. We just saw this as a chance to wrestle a quality opponent, somebody who will make us better in the long run.” St. Paris Graham was the real deal. Standard-bearer Blake Maurer lost only the second match of his career, a 3-1 decision to Joe Dennis. "It was a great match," said Goebel. “He (Dennis) got a takedown with two seconds left. We didn't question it when we were there, but when we watched the tape, Blake was clearly out of bounds and Dennis' foot was on the line. The match should've gone overtime, I guess. But that doesn't necessarily change the outcome. The guy was a bear. Blake will learn from it, go on and get better." "The guys came back to the room and decided they needed to work harder, and that's what they've done," said Goebel. "We didn't lose anything that really mattered, we just lost a match. But even at that, if we win all four of our close matches, it's a tie. And if we get those and Craig Weinzapfel gets the pin at 145, which we thought he had, well, we could conceivably win."Maurer faced an unfamiliar foe in his match with Dennis: Nerves. “To be totally honest, I was very nervous,” said Maurer. “The match was at Ohio State. I really wanted to go to Ohio State. After my warm-up, I look in the stands and there is Russ Hellickson (Ohio State’s wrestling coach) setting next to my dad. I’m like, ‘Holy crap, I need to get it done out here.’” Mater Dei tallied wins from Matt Coughlin, Craig Weinzapfel, Sam Wildeman and Chaz Schwartz. Schwartz won with an eight-second pin at heavyweight. The Wildcats were disappointed with their performance. “The whole dual was about ‘What ifs?’” said Craig Weinzapfel. “We had a bunch of one-point matches that went the wrong way. To not do our best was a real let-down.” In Paris St. Graham, Mater Dei found themselves sampling their own medicine. “Everywhere we wrestled, people always talked about what good shape we were in,” said Craig Weinzapfel. “That team (St. Paris Graham) was in incredible shape; incredibly strong. It seemed like they had the mentality that they were going to go as hard as they could no matter what.” “We were at the weigh-in,” said Wildeman. “I’m looking at this guy, and he is around my size (160 pounds). One of the guys on the team, said ‘No, that’s who Macke (125 pounds) has. The guy was huge. He was a man.” “Graham won all of the close matches,” said Maurer. “Their conditioning was better than ours. We had our opportunities; we just didn’t get it done.” The 125 pounder was dustin schlatter lol Jayruss and BrodyHardcastle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 21 hours ago, PMFAN said: How does that Lawerence North team in the 90's compare? Speaking of Lawrence North, what has happened to that program? They were one of the top programs in the state for a long time & have seemingly disappeared in the last decade or more. Did they lose their coach & haven't been the same since? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, SIACfan said: Speaking of Lawrence North, what has happened to that program? They were one of the top programs in the state for a long time & have seemingly disappeared in the last decade or more. Did they lose their coach & haven't been the same since? Things went downhill after Coach Svarkopf and Deckard left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, PhillyFanMD said: Things went downhill after Coach Svarkopf and Deckard left Shows just how important coaching is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFanMD Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 10:01 AM, PMFAN said: How does that Lawerence North team in the 90's compare? The 92 Lawrence North did have 4 state champs but that was all. The 03 Wildcats had 4 champs, a runner up, 2 3rds, and 5th. Correct me if I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpt189 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 hours ago, PhillyFanMD said: Things went downhill after Coach Svarkopf and Deckard left That’s a crazy statement to say considering the two years following the 03 Mater Dei team, Lawrence North did win team state, beat MD in the process both years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeinandout Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, jpt189 said: That’s a crazy statement to say considering the two years following the 03 Mater Dei team, Lawrence North did win team state, beat MD in the process both years Placed 2nd to PM in 2011...beating MD in the Semi-Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderColfax Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, jpt189 said: That’s a crazy statement to say considering the two years following the 03 Mater Dei team, Lawrence North did win team state, beat MD in the process both years Correction, portage beat MD in ‘04 then lost to LN in the semis. Give us some credit for being the first team ever to beat MD in the team state dual format lmao FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, RaiderColfax said: Correction, portage beat MD in ‘04 then lost to LN in the semis. Give us some credit for being the first team ever to beat MD in the team state dual format lmao Hesseltine was a stud on that squad and another great 1 that never won it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpt189 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 hours ago, RaiderColfax said: Correction, portage beat MD in ‘04 then lost to LN in the semis. Give us some credit for being the first team ever to beat MD in the team state dual format lmao You are correct, I apologize. Funny, I was at that event in 04 watching and still forgot who beat MD that year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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