4U2NV Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Mendez is clearly having an impact on which weight classes some of our top wrestlers are competing at. Going off of the wrestler’s credentials on latest IM state rankings 126 = 15 state placements and 5 state qualifiers 132 = 3 state placements and 10 state qualifiers 138 = 8 state placements and 5 state qualifiers Sig40, logan_boe, Perseverance and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busstogate Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Not too many will be able to cut to avoid a problem from CP. They are too stacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith58 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, busstogate said: Not too many will be able to cut to avoid a problem from CP. They are too stacked. While that might be true, there are problems and then there are PROBLEMS. Edited January 15, 2020 by gsmith58 Sig40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indysportsfan Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, gsmith58 said: While that might be true, there are problems and then there are PROBLEMS. Agreed. CP is good, but the only wrestler to avoid is Mr. Mendez. With that said they do have a handful of wrestlers that could bring home the title. Sig40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchRobb Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) I’m guessing none of these young men seen Vision Quest Edited January 15, 2020 by MitchRobb The Zebra, Rugger44, bwoodjc89 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, MitchRobb said: I’m guessing none of these young men seen the Vision Quest MitchRobb, sstark, coach_worden and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaWrestlingGuy1 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 hours ago, 4U2NV said: Mendez is clearly having an impact on which weight classes some of our top wrestlers are competing at. Going off of the wrestler’s credentials on latest IM state rankings 126 = 15 state placements and 5 state qualifiers 132 = 3 state placements and 10 state qualifiers 138 = 8 state placements and 5 state qualifiers I would argue it is the Littell effect. If he’s healthy, 126 and 132 are equally top heavy and nowhere to hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4U2NV Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy said: I would argue it is the Littell effect. If he’s healthy, 126 and 132 are equally top heavy and nowhere to hide. Littell is a great talent but he is no Mendez. 126 would just be more lopsided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 At 126 Rioux has been pretty darn good. He’s going to be hard to beat. Just saying DCHawks, pritchem and FCFIGHTER170 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) I thought for sure we would have 2 nationally ranked 195ers with Silas vs Bates potential showdown then the new rankings broke my heart! Like it ws stated before in this thread..there's problems then there's Silas Allred problems... there could be an Allred effect as well.. Edited January 16, 2020 by FCFIGHTER170 Perseverance, Sig40 and sstark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 hours ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy said: I would argue it is the Littell effect. If he’s healthy, 126 and 132 are equally top heavy and nowhere to hide. What's up with Littell this year? Injury? I hadn't heard anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, SWINfan said: What's up with Littell this year? Injury? I hadn't heard anything... Hurt his knee iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 hours ago, MitchRobb said: I’m guessing none of these young men seen Vision Quest Mendez gives Shute and Freddy Kruger nightmares! Sig40, 4U2NV, Jayruss and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Mendez is impressive. He’s still a kid and still human. I’d like to believe he will be challenged before he graduates. All the greats were tested at some point. Hopefully it will be a Panther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, GenHeavyHandz said: Mendez is impressive. He’s still a kid and still human. I’d like to believe he will be challenged before he graduates. All the greats were tested at some point. Hopefully it will be a Panther. Mendez did have a pretty impressive weight last year. I really believe Jesse is a kid who really loves to wrestle and would welcome any and all tough competition. The Zebra, Rugger44, Perseverance and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 50 minutes ago, GenHeavyHandz said: Mendez is impressive. He’s still a kid and still human. I’d like to believe he will be challenged before he graduates. All the greats were tested at some point. Hopefully it will be a Panther. I don't recall anybody testing Alex Tsirtsis and can't see anybody in Indiana within 10-15 pounds doing it to Mendez. XCard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, GenHeavyHandz said: Mendez is impressive. He’s still a kid and still human. I’d like to believe he will be challenged before he graduates. All the greats were tested at some point. Hopefully it will be a Panther. Unless Nic Bouzakis transfers to Cathedral, no one in state will touch him in his career. XCard, GWCoach, Rugger44 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4U2NV Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Thor said: Unless Nic Bouzakis transfers to Cathedral, no one in state will touch him in his career. Sergio Lemley is not on the same level now but he has a very high ceiling and has been very impressive as of late. That’s asking a lot though considering he is completing in Illinois and the difference in weight. Could he be the next Louden Swain?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWCoach Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, FCFIGHTER170 said: I don't recall anybody testing Alex Tsirtsis and can't see anybody in Indiana within 10-15 pounds doing it to Mendez. Wes English as a soph chased Tsirtsis his senior year. 4 matches that got tighter as the state series went on. Tsirtsis was still a step ahead but they were still close compared to his other results. D Summar and The Zebra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Alex Tsirtsis had a close match with Craig Weinzapfel from Mater Dei. Craig actually beat him in freestyle in high school. Then in high school state finals... maybe it was the semi finals where Alex beat Craig by a few points. Angel Escobedo had a few close matches in his career and even one loss out of state. Jason Tsirtsis has a few close matches. Blake Maurer was the king of winning close matches. Same with Chad Red. Mason Paris’s was dominate but had one loss his freshman year. He is comparable. All the Lee has losses. I’ve followed Indiana high school wrestling since 1999 and haven’t seen anyone like Jesse Mendez. Paycheck141, Jayruss and logan_boe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, GWCoach said: Wes English as a soph chased Tsirtsis his senior year. 4 matches that got tighter as the state series went on. Tsirtsis was still a step ahead but they were still close compared to his other results. Tsirtsis beat English 10-5 senior state finals. English was a beast. Disco and The Zebra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4U2NV Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 10 hours ago, FCFIGHTER170 said: I thought for sure we would have 2 nationally ranked 195ers with Silas vs Bates potential showdown then the new rankings broke my heart! Like it ws stated before in this thread..there's problems then there's Silas Allred problems... there could be an Allred effect as well.. FCFIGHTER170 brings up a good point. Let's see what the Mendez effect looks like vs the Alred effect: 126 = 15 state placements and 5 state qualifiers 132 = 3 state placements and 10 state qualifiers 138 = 8 state placements and 5 state qualifiers 182 = 8 state placers and 4 state qualifiers 195 = 2 state placers and 2 state qualifiers 220 = 4 state placers and 4 state qualifiers Perseverance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscis1956 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, navy80 said: Tsirtsis beat English 10-5 senior state finals. English was a beast. What was it, 5 takedowns vs 5 escapes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, piscis1956 said: What was it, 5 takedowns vs 5 escapes? I don’t remember this match that detailed. It very well could have been. Brown boys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, GWCoach said: Wes English as a soph chased Tsirtsis his senior year. 4 matches that got tighter as the state series went on. Tsirtsis was still a step ahead but they were still close compared to his other results. Coughlin beat him in FS as well.. but If I remember right most of English points were escapes.. i'm not sure if he took him down.. English ws an animal though and 1 of the most underrated guys cuz of the legends during that era.. D Summar and Brown boys 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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