Jayruss Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Which tourney is more competitive this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NW Indiana Wrestling Fan Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 45 minutes ago, Jayruss said: Which tourney is more competitive this year? Obviously Al Smith.. Steven Sandefer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NW Indiana Wrestling Fan Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 46 minutes ago, Jayruss said: Which tourney is more competitive this year? 182 has 9 state ranked wrestlers Cosgrove 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigtoe19 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Well 152 @ EMD has 9 ranked wrestlers also. Plus Navy 80 has some of the best write ups!! Jayruss and navy80 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosgrove Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Forsure Al Smith Sig40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfanatic Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 There is around 70 ranked wrestlers all from Indiana at the Al Smith this year and MD has 30 something from Indiana and 75 total. With some of the Kentucky kids being ranked in the 20s. We all know Indiana is there better wrestling state so I will have to say Al Smith easily is more competitive Sig40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayruss Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 I will be doing Al Smith Champs vs MD champs and that should give a solid indicator on which is better. navy80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 The Al Smith is tougher, no doubt. They have more teams and more large schools compared to the fewer and smaller Mater Dei classic teams. I prefer Mater Dei all day ery day because I wrestled in it... but mostly because it brings state ranked kids from four states (Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee) to one tournament. The Al Smith is all Indiana kids. Jayruss, MitchRobb, Indysportsfan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayruss Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 53 minutes ago, navy80 said: The Al Smith is tougher, no doubt. They have more teams and more large schools compared to the fewer and smaller Mater Dei classic teams. I prefer Mater Dei all day ery day because I wrestled in it... but mostly because it brings state ranked kids from four states (Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee) to one tournament. The Al Smith is all Indiana kids. I feel it’s deeper due to the fact being more teams. Belleville and Father Ryan aren’t slouches. Union County would be a top 7 team in Indiana. I’m just not convinced that it is a lock that every year Al Smith Champs beats MD classic champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig40 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jayruss said: I feel it’s deeper due to the fact being more teams. Belleville and Father Ryan aren’t slouches. Union County would be a top 7 team in Indiana. I’m just not convinced that it is a lock that every year Al Smith Champs beats MD classic champs. Al Smith has 7 #1's and 8 #2's(15 total) compared to Mater Dei's 3 #1's and 2 #2's(5 total). I would have Al Smith champs taking 10 of the 14 from Mater Dei champs. I am familiar with the out of state kids in the lower weights at Mater Dei, but not sure about upper weight guys. Edited December 25, 2019 by Sig40 Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayruss Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 Just now, Sig40 said: Al Smith has 7 #1's and 8 #2's(15 total) compared to Mater Dei's 3 #1's and 2 #2's(5 total). I would have Al Smith champs taking 10 of the 14 from Mater Dei champs. We shall see good sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indysportsfan Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Sig40 said: Al Smith has 7 #1's and 8 #2's(15 total) compared to Mater Dei's 3 #1's and 2 #2's(5 total). I would have Al Smith champs taking 10 of the 14 from Mater Dei champs. I am familiar with the out of state kids in the lower weights at Mater Dei, but not sure about upper weight guys. You must only be counting # 1’s & 2’s from Indiana because EMD Classic had more than 5 when I looked. i don’t know enough (outside of internet research) regarding the out of state kids. I was able to find results where several of them own wins over our top wrestlers (freestyle). Al Smith is loaded, and from what I know it is deeper. With that said, ANY CHAMP from the Classic will be (1) an outstanding wrestler and (2) would have earned their title by defeating outstanding competitors. Jayruss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alias Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Sig40 said: Al Smith has 7 #1's and 8 #2's(15 total) compared to Mater Dei's 3 #1's and 2 #2's(5 total). I would have Al Smith champs taking 10 of the 14 from Mater Dei champs. I am familiar with the out of state kids in the lower weights at Mater Dei, but not sure about upper weight guys. MD holiday classic with 13 #1s and 14 #2s for 27 total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NW Indiana Wrestling Fan Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Alias said: MD holiday classic with 13 #1s and 14 #2s for 27 total Other states such as Kentucky aren’t as good overall as Indians is. Sig40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosgrove Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Al Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig40 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 8 hours ago, Indysportsfan said: You must only be counting # 1’s & 2’s from Indiana because EMD Classic had more than 5 when I looked. i don’t know enough (outside of internet research) regarding the out of state kids. I was able to find results where several of them own wins over our top wrestlers (freestyle). Al Smith is loaded, and from what I know it is deeper. With that said, ANY CHAMP from the Classic will be (1) an outstanding wrestler and (2) would have earned their title by defeating outstanding competitors. I most definitely am not counting the other states. I am familiar with most of those kids and they don’t hold up to our number 1 and 2’s. Classic is probably the 2nd best in state tournament, just doesn’t hold up to Al Smith. navy80, Indysportsfan and Cosgrove 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosgrove Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Cough kids ranked in the nation.... D1 commits Al Smith is deeper. Mark down the champs and places from the Al Smith and the MD classic and see where guys place come state tournament time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemtothemat Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, Cosgrove said: Cough kids ranked in the nation.... D1 commits Al Smith is deeper. Mark down the champs and places from the Al Smith and the MD classic and see where guys place come state tournament time. Simple isn't it haha Cosgrove 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenHeavyHandz Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 The Al Smith: formerly the Mishawaka Invite has been Indiana’s premier High School invite for over 35 years. It gets no better. Crown Point. Cathedral. The mighty Panthers of FW Snider. That’s enough for me. I shall be in attendance. Then it’s a short drive to Evanston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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