TeamGarcia Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 How many Freshman State Champs have there been ? +2 this year. I know it’s a Short List . +7 4x State Champ. Asa Garcia in 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 28 TeamGarcia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 Is there a list of names and years ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, TeamGarcia said: Is there a list of names and years ? On my computer there is stateorbust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Year Weight Name School 1924 175 Estell Ritter Bloomington South Panthers 1927 100 Robert Schuler Wabash Apaches 1930 100 Willard Duffey Muncie Central Bearcats 1939 95 Ralph Boruff Bloomington South Panthers 1942 103 Al Lummio East Chicago Washington 1943 165 Emery Nemeth East Chicago Washington 1944 120 Jack Benson Bloomington South Panthers 1946 95 Richard Perkins Muncie Central Bearcats 1949 95 Howard Fisher South Bend Central 1959 120 Ray Webb Bloomington University 1986 98 Lance Ellis Indianapolis Cathedral Fighting Irish 1995 100 Greg Schaefer Evansville Mater Dei Wildcats 2000 103 John Sheets Bellmont Braves 2001 119 Alex Tsirtsis Griffith Panthers 2001 130 Blake Maurer Evansville Mater Dei Wildcats 2002 112 Angel Escobedo Griffith Panthers 2005 103 Eric Galka Hobart Brickies 2006 103 Josh Harper Mishawaka Cavemen 2008 103 Ethan Raley Indian Creek Braves 2009 103 Cody Phillips Union County Patriots 2009 125 Jason Tsirtsis Crown Point Bulldogs 2011 103 Nathan Boston Lawrence North Wildcats 2013 106 Chad Red New Palestine Dragons 2014 106 Jeremiah Reitz Griffith Panthers 2016 106 Asa Garcia Avon Orioles 2017 113 Alec Viduya Roncalli Rebels 2019 106 Brennen Cernus Culver Academies Eagles 2019 126 Jesse Mendez Crown Point Bulldogs TeamGarcia, piscis1956 and backtothemat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said: Year Weight Name School 1924 175 Estell Ritter Bloomington South Panthers 1927 100 Robert Schuler Wabash Apaches 1930 100 Willard Duffey Muncie Central Bearcats 1939 95 Ralph Boruff Bloomington South Panthers 1942 103 Al Lummio East Chicago Washington 1943 165 Emery Nemeth East Chicago Washington 1944 120 Jack Benson Bloomington South Panthers 1946 95 Richard Perkins Muncie Central Bearcats 1949 95 Howard Fisher South Bend Central 1959 120 Ray Webb Bloomington University 1986 98 Lance Ellis Indianapolis Cathedral Fighting Irish 1995 100 Greg Schaefer Evansville Mater Dei Wildcats 2000 103 John Sheets Bellmont Braves 2001 119 Alex Tsirtsis Griffith Panthers 2001 130 Blake Maurer Evansville Mater Dei Wildcats 2002 112 Angel Escobedo Griffith Panthers 2005 103 Eric Galka Hobart Brickies 2006 103 Josh Harper Mishawaka Cavemen 2008 103 Ethan Raley Indian Creek Braves 2009 103 Cody Phillips Union County Patriots 2009 125 Jason Tsirtsis Crown Point Bulldogs 2011 103 Nathan Boston Lawrence North Wildcats 2013 106 Chad Red New Palestine Dragons 2014 106 Jeremiah Reitz Griffith Panthers 2016 106 Asa Garcia Avon Orioles 2017 113 Alec Viduya Roncalli Rebels 2019 106 Brennen Cernus Culver Academies Eagles 2019 126 Jesse Mendez Crown Point Bulldogs Crazy it took from 1959-1986 to get one. Now it’s happening about every 2 years from 2000-2019 Edited February 22, 2019 by TeamGarcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenBoy219 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, TeamGarcia said: Crazy it took from 1959-1986 to get one. Now it’s happening about every 2 years from 2000-2019 Think we are do for a freshman champ in a heavier weight class. Seems to be even less common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Here are classes and the number of freshmen and sophomore champs, note the year is the CLASS year, so this year's freshmen are 2022. Class Total 9th 10th 2022 2 2 0 2021 0 0 0 2020 1 1 0 2019 3 1 2 2018 3 0 3 2017 3 1 2 2016 2 1 1 2015 2 0 2 2014 2 1 1 2013 1 0 1 2012 5 2 3 2011 1 1 0 2010 2 0 2 2009 3 1 2 2008 2 1 1 2007 1 0 1 2006 0 0 0 2005 3 1 2 2004 4 2 2 2003 3 1 2 2002 0 0 0 2001 0 0 0 2000 0 0 0 1999 0 0 0 1998 2 1 1 1997 0 0 0 1996 1 0 1 1995 2 0 2 1994 1 0 1 1993 0 0 0 1992 2 0 2 1991 1 0 1 1990 0 0 0 1989 2 1 1 1988 0 0 0 1987 1 0 1 1986 1 0 1 1985 1 0 1 1984 0 0 0 1983 0 0 0 1982 1 0 1 1981 2 0 2 1980 1 0 1 1979 0 0 0 1978 0 0 0 1977 0 0 0 1976 1 0 1 1975 0 0 0 1974 0 0 0 1973 0 0 0 1972 0 0 0 1971 1 0 1 1970 0 0 0 1969 1 0 1 1968 0 0 0 1967 1 0 1 1966 1 0 1 1965 1 0 1 1964 1 0 1 1963 0 0 0 1962 1 1 0 1961 0 0 0 1960 0 0 0 1959 1 0 1 1958 1 0 1 1957 0 0 0 1956 0 0 0 1955 1 0 1 1954 1 0 1 1953 1 0 1 1952 3 1 2 1951 2 0 2 1950 0 0 0 1949 3 1 2 1948 1 0 1 1947 4 1 3 1946 1 1 0 1945 4 1 3 1944 0 0 0 1943 1 0 1 1942 1 1 0 1941 0 0 0 1940 0 0 0 1939 1 0 1 1938 2 0 2 1937 0 0 0 1936 1 0 1 1935 0 0 0 1934 0 0 0 1933 3 1 2 1932 0 0 0 1931 1 0 1 1930 3 1 2 1929 0 0 0 1928 0 0 0 1927 3 1 2 1926 1 0 1 1925 1 0 1 1924 2 0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, GoldenBoy219 said: Think we are do for a freshman champ in a heavier weight class. Seems to be even less common. Parris had a great shot doing it but Seniors in the upper weights out do the Freshman probably from 132, Blake at 130 been our heaviest to do it since (1943). Be tough, might see a Gable Stevenson roll through here . All records go down at some point . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOC Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, TeamGarcia said: Crazy it took from 1959-1986 to get one. Now it’s happening about every 2 years from 2000-2019 I think, if I'm not mistaken, that many schools and maybe even an IHSAA rule during this time frame that freshman didn't compete on varsity teams. I bet the Ancient Elder could give us more accurate information about this. Edited February 23, 2019 by WOC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, WOC said: I think, if I'm not mistaken, that many schools and maybe even an IHSAA rule during this time frame that freshman didn't compete on varsity teams. I bet the Ancient Elder could give us more accurate information about this. Good point, but looking at Joe’s stats per years , there was Freshman competing in the State Tournament. Edited February 23, 2019 by TeamGarcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 2 hours ago, WOC said: I think, if I'm not mistaken, that many schools and maybe even an IHSAA rule during this time frame that freshman didn't compete on varsity teams. I bet the Ancient Elder could give us more accurate information about this. When I was in high school in the early to mid 90s our freshmen went to the junior high and wrestled other freshman teams only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOC Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, Mattyb said: When I was in high school in the early to mid 90s our freshmen went to the junior high and wrestled other freshman teams only. In the mid 70's when I was a Freshman, it was the same deal that we had Jr. High that was 7th, 8th and 9th grade. I did wrestle on the varsity but there were very few Jr. High 9th graders that participated on any High School varsity teams. My memory is a little blurred, but as I remember, I wrestled, 1 girl was on the varsity gymnastics team and 1 guy was on the varsity basketball team and we were the only freshman competing with the varsity. It was difficult as I remember, because I had to walk from the Jr. High to the High School after school every day for practice. Most athletes participated on the freshman teams, however we did not have wrestling in our Jr. High at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOC Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 ...a little more to that story. The High School would not give us our varsity letters because we were in Jr. High and didn't attend the high school. We had to contact the school board/superintendent to get the school to release our varsity letters while we were still at the Jr. High. Off topic a bit, but I thought you might find it interesting. Mattyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscis1956 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 4 hours ago, WOC said: I think, if I'm not mistaken, that many schools and maybe even an IHSAA rule during this time frame that freshman didn't compete on varsity teams. I bet the Ancient Elder could give us more accurate information about this. I don’t think it was an IHSAA rule. Some schools included grades 7-9 as junior high, and some of those schools didn’t allow the ninth graders to “wrestle up” with their high school team. That wasn’t true across the board though. WOC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscis1956 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I know in the 70’s we competed against a couple schools where 9th grade was junior high. But I remember right before sectionals they “called up” some wrestlers from their freshman team. (I remember one of them being Maurice Swain’s uncle or dad.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookie953 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 1:54 PM, Y2CJ41 said: Year Weight Name School 1924 175 Estell Ritter Bloomington South Panthers 1927 100 Robert Schuler Wabash Apaches 1930 100 Willard Duffey Muncie Central Bearcats 1939 95 Ralph Boruff Bloomington South Panthers 1942 103 Al Lummio East Chicago Washington 1943 165 Emery Nemeth East Chicago Washington 1944 120 Jack Benson Bloomington South Panthers 1946 95 Richard Perkins Muncie Central Bearcats 1949 95 Howard Fisher South Bend Central 1959 120 Ray Webb Bloomington University 1986 98 Lance Ellis Indianapolis Cathedral Fighting Irish 1995 100 Greg Schaefer Evansville Mater Dei Wildcats 2000 103 John Sheets Bellmont Braves 2001 119 Alex Tsirtsis Griffith Panthers 2001 130 Blake Maurer Evansville Mater Dei Wildcats 2002 112 Angel Escobedo Griffith Panthers 2005 103 Eric Galka Hobart Brickies 2006 103 Josh Harper Mishawaka Cavemen 2008 103 Ethan Raley Indian Creek Braves 2009 103 Cody Phillips Union County Patriots 2009 125 Jason Tsirtsis Crown Point Bulldogs 2011 103 Nathan Boston Lawrence North Wildcats 2013 106 Chad Red New Palestine Dragons 2014 106 Jeremiah Reitz Griffith Panthers 2016 106 Asa Garcia Avon Orioles 2017 113 Alec Viduya Roncalli Rebels 2019 106 Brennen Cernus Culver Academies Eagles 2019 126 Jesse Mendez Crown Point Bulldogs Little known fact, but Estell Ritter was held back solely for wrestling. Also for farming because it was a tough crop back in 1924, but none the less his parents seemed to be concerned with his wrestling career. backtothemat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtothemat Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, Kookie953 said: Little known fact, but Estell Ritter was held back solely for wrestling. Also for farming because it was a tough crop back in 1924, but none the less his parents seemed to be concerned with his wrestling career. Another little known fact: Estell was a woman! IMrule 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscis1956 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, backtothemat said: Another little known fact: Estell was a woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith58 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I don't know how widespread it was, but Bloomington South didn't have freshman wrestle in the early 70s, otherwise, Randy May would have been on the list of four-time champs. Freshmen were wrestling at least by 74. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Surprised me that even in the modern era there have been so few, especially those over 106/113! Mendez has some good company in Tsirtsis and Maurer on the list Im wondering how many freshmen came one match short - runner up - at weights 126 and up especially those upper weights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscis1956 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 7 hours ago, gsmith58 said: I don't know how widespread it was, but Bloomington South didn't have freshman wrestle in the early 70s, otherwise, Randy May would have been on the list of four-time champs. Freshmen were wrestling at least by 74. I think I read an interview with Randy May in which he said he wasn’t the varsity 98 pounder as a freshman because he was a very much underweight for the weight class a freshman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 5 hours ago, piscis1956 said: I think I read an interview with Randy May in which he said he wasn’t the varsity 98 pounder as a freshman because he was a very much underweight for the weight class a freshman. https://indianamat.com/index.php?/articles.html/high-school-news/wrestlingwednesday-feature-blast-from-the-past-with-randy-may-r707/ piscis1956 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said: https://indianamat.com/index.php?/articles.html/high-school-news/wrestlingwednesday-feature-blast-from-the-past-with-randy-may-r707/ One of my favorite articles you guys have put out. My dad to this day will say Randy May was one BA dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith58 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I stand corrected. Nevertheless, he was a lot of fun to watch. He talked about in the same way the four-timers are today. 14 hours ago, piscis1956 said: I think I read an interview with Randy May in which he said he wasn’t the varsity 98 pounder as a freshman because he was a very much underweight for the weight class a freshman. piscis1956 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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