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Does anyone know why the team scoring at the semi-state level was changed from last year?

2017-2018:  Round of 16 win by fall (+2), TF (+1.5), MD (+1), etc...

2018-2019:  Round of 16 win by fall (+0), TF (+0), MD (+0), etc...

Was an announcement made that I missed?

Thanks

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Per the minutes from May 4th, 2015 we are supposed to have scoring there.

 

http://www.ihsaa.org/Portals/0/ihsaa/documents/about%20ihsaa/minutes/2014-15/050415.pdf

1. Change team scoring to begin in the first round of three levels of the state tournament – regional, semi-state, and state finals.

A motion to approve the proposal was made by Paul Neidig; seconded by Steve Cox; motion approved
17-0.

However in the winter bulletin it says this
Scoring
Individual and team scoring shall be decided according to Rule 9 in the current Wrestling Rules. Six places shall be awarded at the sectional. Team scoring in the sectional shall begin at the quarter‐finals level and not before. Only four places shall be awarded at the regional and semi‐state levels.  Scoring at the Regional, and Semi‐State level will begin at the round of eight.  Team scoring at the State meet will begin during the opening round with advancement points.
 
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So did they go back and re-vote on this scoring change again but we didn’t get the memo?  Or did someone just copy this text from an older source without even checking on any changes they had made since then?  

As much as the first option annoys me since it should be scored from the start and from the earlier vote they should know why.  It’s at least better than the complete lack of apathy for our sport and team champions that the second option would imply?

Edited by MattM
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So the Winter Bulletin says team scoring shall be decided according to Rule 9, yet Rule 9 doesn't mention changing the scoring at the Regional and Semi-State level.

So as Matt so nicely summarized; is it lack of communication (re-vote / no memo) or apathy (changed it and don't follow their own rules)?

 

2018 - 2019 IHSAA Winter Bulletin

"VII Scoring

Individual and team scoring shall be decided according to Rule 9 in the current Wrestling Rules. Six places shall be awarded at the sectional. Team scoring in the sectional shall begin at the quarter‐finals level and not before. Only four places shall be awarded at the regional and semi‐state levels.  Scoring at the Regional, and Semi‐State level will begin at the round of eight.   Team scoring at the State meet will begin during the opening round with advancement points"

Excerpt rom:  "2018-2019 IHSAA Winter Bulletin." http://www.ihsaa.org/Portals/0/ihsaa/documents/quick resources/Winter Bulletin.pdf

2018 - 2019 NFHS Wrestling Rules Book

"Rule 9

TOURNAMENT TEAM SCORING

Four Places    Six Places    Eight Places
1.    14 pts.    16 pts.           16 pts.
2.    10 pts.    12 pts.           12 pts.
3.      7 pts.      9 pts.             9 pts.
4.      4 pts.      7 pts.             7 pts.
5.                     5 pts.             5 pts.
6.                     3 pts.             3 pts.
7.                                           2 pts.
8.                                           1 pt.

ART. 3 . . . In tournaments, individual placement points shall be awarded as soon as earned. Placement points already earned shall be deducted in case of forfeit (other than injury) or disqualification from the tournament. Points for team scoring shall be awarded as follows:

a. Two team advancement points shall be scored for each match won in the championship bracket, except for the first-place match. A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall be awarded two advancement points by winning the next match. No points are awarded for the bye if the wrestler loses the next match;

b. One team advancement point shall be scored for each match won in the consolation elimination, except for the final third-, fifth- and seventh-place matches. A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall receive one advancement point, provided the wrestler wins the next round match;

c. Two additional points shall be scored for each match won by default, disqualification, fall or forfeit throughout the tournament;

d. One and one-half additional points shall be scored for each match won by a technical fall;

e. One additional point shall be awarded for each match won by a major decision;

f. In tournaments scoring four places, the winner of each championship semifinal shall be awarded 10 place points and the winner of each championship final shall be awarded four additional place points. The winner of each consolation semifinal shall receive four place points and the winner of third place shall receive three additional place points;

g. In tournaments scoring six places, the winner of each championship quarterfinal shall be awarded three place points, the winner of each championship semifinal shall be awarded nine additional place points and the winner of each championship final shall be awarded four additional place points. The winner of the quarterfinal consolation match shall receive three place points. The winner of the consolation semifinals shall receive four additional place points. The winner of third place and the winner of fifth place shall receive two additional place points.

h. In tournaments scoring eight places, the winner of each championship quarterfinal shall be awarded three place points; the winner of each championship semifinal shall be awarded nine additional place points; and the winner of each championship final shall be awarded four additional place points. All winners who reach the quarterfinal consolation shall be awarded one place point. The winner of the quarterfinal consolation match shall receive two additional place points. The winner of the consolation semifinals shall receive four additional place points. The winner of third place and the winner of fifth place shall receive two additional place points. The winner of seventh place shall receive an additional place point.”

- Excerpt from: NFHS. “2018-19 NFHS Wrestling Rules Book."  iBooks. https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/2018-19-nfhs-wrestling-rules-book/id1441467378?mt=11

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We should also be scoring all bonus and advancement at state...

http://www.ihsaa.org/Portals/0/ihsaa/documents/about ihsaa/minutes/2016-17/050117.CommitteeMinutes.pdf

4. Keep tourney scoring uniform at all levels and all advancement and bonus points on Friday night.

A motion for approval was made by Ed Gilliland; seconded by Dave Worland; motion approved 19‐0.

 

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