MD92 3 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) Let the debate begin. I would have included Joe Lee, but since he didn't wrestle this year I left him off. Edited February 19, 2018 by MD92 Link to post Share on other sites
Kookie953 160 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 C) All of the above Dwilly 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SIACfan 200 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Given the question, I don't see how you can't go with Parris. But this doesn't mean Parris is better than Lee. Lee got unfortunate & got caught by a very good/funky wrestler in Bethel in the ticket round as a freshman. Lee mounted a tremendous comeback & simple ran out of time. I was fortunate enough to have witnessed that match, & IMO Lee would of won a rematch (but Bethel completely earned/deserved the victory). Perfect example of why wrestlebacks are a bad idea - Lee may have been a 4-timer! Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 445 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, SIACfan said: Given the question, I don't see how you can't go with Parris. But this doesn't mean Parris is better than Lee. Lee got unfortunate & got caught by a very good/funky wrestler in Bethel in the ticket round as a freshman. Lee mounted a tremendous comeback & simple ran out of time. I was fortunate enough to have witnessed that match, & IMO Lee would of won a rematch (but Bethel completely earned/deserved the victory). Perfect example of why wrestlebacks are a bad idea - Lee may have been a 4-timer! I think there was another Lee in that weight class would've had some say in him being a 4 timer Tony McGinley, Wrestlingaddict101, loscoz and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
SIACfan 200 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Thor said: I think there was another Lee in that weight class would've had some say in him being a 4 timer You are correct, I did say may have been. The 4-timer reference was simply convenient to my point about wrestlebacks. Actually, your point brings up another angle to that story. With wrestlebacks we may have gotten to see the highly anticipated Lee/Lee matchup. Instead it the story ends with the Bethel upset over B. Lee. Link to post Share on other sites
Powerline 61 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, SIACfan said: Given the question, I don't see how you can't go with Parris. But this doesn't mean Parris is better than Lee. Lee got unfortunate & got caught by a very good/funky wrestler in Bethel in the ticket round as a freshman. Lee mounted a tremendous comeback & simple ran out of time. I was fortunate enough to have witnessed that match, & IMO Lee would of won a rematch (but Bethel completely earned/deserved the victory). Perfect example of why wrestlebacks are a bad idea - Lee may have been a 4-timer! Sometimes those losses are the catalyst to creating the career he has after. Link to post Share on other sites
Fabio Jr. 1,038 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 It's easy to go with Lee Super 32 placer 2x UWW AA 2x beating a few college studs 3time state champ WNO winner Fargo Placer Mason won nhsca and flo I think comparing those statistics on top of everything Blee was objectively better in terms of career. Mason did great but I think numbers show pound for pound blee went out there and won in much more difficult scenarios Kookie953 and Marissa Lee 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Fabio Jr. 1,038 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 43 minutes ago, SIACfan said: Perfect example of why wrestlebacks are a bad idea - Lee may have been a 4-timer! Wait why are wrestlebacks bad? Cause a deserving wrestler can compete for a title like he can in literally 49 other states mat fiend and RaiderColfax 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SIACfan 200 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Just now, Fabio Jr. said: It's easy to go with Lee Super 32 placer 2x UWW AA 2x beating a few college studs 3time state champ WNO winner Fargo Placer Mason won nhsca and flo I think comparing those statistics on top of everything Blee was objectively better in terms of career. Mason did great but I think numbers show pound for pound blee went out there and won in much more difficult scenarios Maybe I am wrong but given this is the Indiana HS forum, I assumed we were talking HS career. Wrestlingaddict101 and BrianLefeve 2 Link to post Share on other sites
SIACfan 200 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Just now, Fabio Jr. said: Wait why are wrestlebacks bad? Cause a deserving wrestler can compete for a title like he can in literally 49 other states I was being sarcastic, coach. Link to post Share on other sites
Fabio Jr. 1,038 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 So everything else is null and void? Yeah let's just not mention obvious facts and instead believe with our hearts! Vote who you want but like I said the answer is objectively clear. Link to post Share on other sites
Fabio Jr. 1,038 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, SIACfan said: I was being sarcastic, coach. No worries that's why I was confused you sounded like Ayersman no disrespect or anything just friendly debate banter Coach Masters 1 Link to post Share on other sites
navy80 568 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Lee focused more on wrestling during the off season. Thus, he has more credentials. Parris played football on a state runner up team. That requires a lot of off season work as wel. Mason didn’t focus on year round wrestling, thus, he has less credentials. Mason Parris dominated at heavy weight which is more impressive than lee dominating at a lower weight. I just dont don’t think you can compare the two in their high school careers. And I mean just high school ihsaa affiliates matches, not freestyle etc. Wrestlingaddict101 1 Link to post Share on other sites
WOC 61 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I think this is too close to call at this point. If you look at only Indiana high school career, then you would give a slight advantage to Mason. If you consider all of the national tournaments included, then you would give a slight edge to Brayton. I personally think it's a tie at this point. We should revisit this after they continue their great careers in college and possibly international to know which has the better career. Link to post Share on other sites
navy80 568 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I voted Mason Parris and here is why. Best at high school career. High school state finals results- Mason- 11 pins 3 major decisions three state titles and a third place brayton lee- 7 tech falls 1 pin 1 md and 3 decisions three state titles Best high school career- easily Mason Parris best at non high school career- easily Brayton Lee Wrestlingaddict101 and BrianLefeve 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MD92 3 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, Fabio Jr. said: So everything else is null and void? Yeah let's just not mention obvious facts and instead believe with our hearts! Vote who you want but like I said the answer is objectively clear. You are hardly objective, but you make a good case. Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderColfax 218 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I went with Parris strictly based off high school season career. Parris had one loss and that was semis to Osborn his freshman year, Osborn went on to win it. B lee had one loss but it was ticket round to bethel, I believe bethel beat a few highly touted kids in his careers, another one with the last name Lee also lol but if we are going as far as wrestling career, it’s cut and dry B lee because of his national success at many many different tourneys. Link to post Share on other sites
MattM 1,057 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, RaiderColfax said: Parris had one loss and that was semis to Osborn his freshman year, Osborn went on to win it. If I remember correctly he lost by only 1 point, because he couldn't get in on a takedown in the closing seconds of the match. Link to post Share on other sites
MitchRobb 37 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I think we would all gladly trade either one of these studs highschool careers.I am just really proud both are indiana boys Y2CJ41 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Y2CJ41 6,137 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 When comparing these two it is splitting hairs, their careers are almost identical in so many ways. Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanPride 10 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Both great young men. But you also have to think what Mason could have done if he didn't play football at least four months out of the year. Link to post Share on other sites
1prouddad 544 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Isn't Mason an all-state in track as well? Both studs on the mat though. Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestlingaddict101 44 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Fabio Jr. said: It's easy to go with Lee Super 32 placer 2x UWW AA 2x beating a few college studs 3time state champ WNO winner Fargo Placer Mason won nhsca and flo I think comparing those statistics on top of everything Blee was objectively better in terms of career. Mason did great but I think numbers show pound for pound blee went out there and won in much more difficult scenarios If mason would of competed in as many off season tournaments as blee he would have the same off season accolades... I mean he is also ranked #1 in the country at his weight so one could only assume he would of did well at super 32’s, etc, etc Link to post Share on other sites
Wrestlingaddict101 44 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I can’t wait to watch them both at the next level. Has anyone heard anything about either of them redshirting or not? Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 445 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, Wrestlingaddict101 said: I can’t wait to watch them both at the next level. Has anyone heard anything about either of them redshirting or not? Parris may step right into the lineup with Adam Coon graduating this year. Lee has shot to wrestle as a true freshman, but I think they'd rather redshirt him Wrestlingaddict101 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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