lewdwar Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just FYI was advised by IHSAA officials this weekend that the sleeve knee pads and elbow pads will be illegal starting at sectionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodygrant Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Why make this call now and not before? I’ve never seen an issue with any of the knee/elbow pads during a match and feel this decision hurts some kids that utilize these due to some injuries they may have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Did they give a reason for making them illegal? If you watch any college dual you’ll see at least a couple of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Can you provide a link to an example of these so we are clear on what will be called illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewdwar Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 Sorry I didn’t ask many question or have a link. Littlejohn said he got an email. Think by the IHSAA but not really sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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boomer Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Will these sleeves be ok if they are used to cover a knee brace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 So to clarify a “normal length” slide on knee pads, which are just around the knee area, is still OK to wear? And just these “extended length” full sleeve knee pads, which go up the thigh and down near the ankle, that are now illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MattM said: So to clarify a “normal length” slide on knee pads, which are just around the knee area, is still OK to wear? And just these “extended length” full sleeve knee pads, which go up the thigh and down near the ankle, that are now illegal. Seen this coming last year. Why not wear a traditional elbow or knee pad. My son wore one last year the full sleeve padding. The little pads did become loose, stickout and offer no support . He switched back to traditional knee pad this year because of the flaws . Edited January 21, 2018 by TeamGarcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, lewdwar said: Just FYI was advised by IHSAA officials this weekend that the sleeve knee pads and elbow pads will be illegal starting at sectionals. Confirmed by a IHSAA Official. Clarification is coming Monday by IHSAA. eastdad18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemtothemat Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Bring The tights back. Phil Cook busstogate, TripleB, OldGoatGrappler and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No One Famous Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, TeamGarcia said: Confirmed by a IHSAA Official. Clarification is coming Monday by IHSAA. What is the reason? I am not sure why the IHSAA cares what kind of elbow pad or knee pad is worn. asbury4040 and brodygrant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Seltzer Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 IHSAA needs to ban them in basketball too if this is the case. guillotine, OldGoatGrappler, busstogate and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 33 minutes ago, Coach Seltzer said: IHSAA needs to ban them in basketball too if this is the case. I think they already are unless they’ve changed the rule recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, No One Famous said: What is the reason? I am not sure why the IHSAA cares what kind of elbow pad or knee pad is worn. I’m just guessing here... wouldn’t doubt they say it’s altering the uniform. I’ve seen a few kids wearing them on both knees and it looks like tights on them. Other States have banned them as well in Basketball & Wrestling in Iowa for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowbelly12 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 would something like this be illegal then?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busstogate Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, takemtothemat said: Bring The tights back. Phil Cook Anyone use these back when? They changed the game when they came out. http://kneepadswrestling.plqioi.com/➨-red-force-10-knee-support-with-neoprene-impact-pad-➨.html Edited January 22, 2018 by busstogate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWFTKWC11 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 What if you wear the extended leg sleeve and a regular knee pad over it? Bryce Meredith wears something along these lines if i'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official38 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Rule Book Page 17 Rule 4-3 Section 3 Special Equipment Art 1 Special equipment is defined as any equipment worn that is not required by rule. Any equipment which does not permit normal movement of the joints and which prevents one's opponent from applying normal holds/maneuvers shall not be permitted. a. legal hair coverings attached to the ear guards, face masks, braces, casts, supports, eye protection and socks. b. any protective equipment which is hard and/or abrasive must be covered and properly padded with a closed-cell, slow recovery foam padding no less than 1/2 inch thick. Art. 2 All parts of a pad must fit snug against the wrestler's body. Loose pads are prohibited. A sleeve is not permitted. @yellowbelly12 picture is the proper protection of a knee pad or elbow pad. @lewdwar's pictures of a knee/elbow sleeve is not permitted. These can be altered if the sleeve at the top and bottom is shortened. But needs to be verified by the official. This was an issue a couple of years ago, if was brought to the attention of the NFHS, they are illegal because of the sleeve. Jim Russell IHSAA Rules Interpreter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrastler2244 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 This is BS. Those leg sleeve knee pads are filth. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 So if a kid has knee issues (perhaps has had a dislocation at some point) and wears a compression sleeve over the injury to add stability.... they will not be able to wear it. That’s crazy!!!! The kid is not trying to look cool or be like Lebron. Just wants to avoid injury. How would wearing a tight knee sleeve give a kid an advantage? Really dumb. Safety of the wrestlers needs to come first. Kookie953 and brodygrant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 17 hours ago, lewdwar said: I don’t understand how these are illegal but the large bulky knee brace that covers the entire knee is legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swain358 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just another dumb rule that the IHSAA is enforcing. That sleeve gives the wrestler no unfair advantage at all. Stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swain358 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, cbarnett said: For clarification, it is not the officials or the IHSAA making this interpretation, it is the National Federation. This interpretation/rule, as with all others, are always open for review, and everybody has the ability to submit a rule change/interpretation to the NFHS at www.nfhs.org Understandable, my thing is why wait until Sectional to start enforcing it. How about wait till next year since it hasn't been enforced all year. Make it a point of emphasis for next year and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENoblewrestling Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, cbarnett said: I believe that it has been a rule all along, however, these pads were not as prevalent in the past. The first ones that I actually saw all year were at the Lake County tournament on January 6. The ones being worn by the Merrillville wrestlers were deemed legal after some review, as they were tight fitting and only extended above/below the knee approximately 3"-4". Another school had one that extended under the singlet at the top, and below the sock on the bottom, and was thus determined illegal. I believe that it was subsequently altered to comply. I agree Coach Swain..... the communication amongst the officials needs to be more consistent Chuck Barnett IHSAA Interpreter I have a kid who wears ones similar to the Merrillville ones you describe. Will those be allowed this weekend? I am just trying to tell my kid if not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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