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I was curious if this event was going to happen again this year? I didn't see anything on ISWA or IHSAA website. Sounded like a great tournament last yr.

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so in order to qualify for this u need to lose at sectional or regionals ? or can a jv kid who didn't wrestle in sectionals also allowed to enter? and will you need to preregister ?

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10 minutes ago, tommyho said:

so in order to qualify for this u need to lose at sectional or regionals ? or can a jv kid who didn't wrestle in sectionals also allowed to enter? and will you need to preregister ?

Any freshman or sophomore that doesn't place at IHSAA STATE is able to compete. Semi state qualifiers and state qualifiers do not need to wrestle in the southern or northern district tournaments to qualify. Registration will be on trackwrestling & will require a USAWRESTLING MEMBERSHIP 

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1 hour ago, Juggernaut said:

Any freshman or sophomore that doesn't place at IHSAA STATE is able to compete. Semi state qualifiers and state qualifiers do not need to wrestle in the southern or northern district tournaments to qualify. Registration will be on trackwrestling & will require a USAWRESTLING MEMBERSHIP 

And if they place they are not permitted.. last year had plenty of quality wrestling..@ 170 last year seen Trizton carson vs silas Allred in the 2nd round and it was a treat especially considering that should've been the finals.. and at 160 You had Carson Brewer pin a state qualifier Jacob Atkins in the finals..Bunch of young studs and it was only year 1.. this year will bring even more.. Antwaun graves and gabe Smith also were there. 

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1 hour ago, takemtothemat said:

Yes!!!!! This needs to be a one day event. 

One or two days would probably come down to the size of the brackets.  They willl already have a large number of automatic qualifiers, which you can’t really cap.  So the only way to limit the bracket size would be to take less placers from the regional qualifier.   

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I’d also like to know if there is a plan to refine the separation criteria, at lest at the state level.  Last year the regional qualifier really didn’t matter in the separation which I thought was unfortunate for those that traveled far and battled hard to finish Hugh in the qualifier got nothing at state for that effort.   Some like this could be entered into track to create a more balanced bracket for those going to F/S State:

1. State qualifiers

2. Semi-state qualifiers and the F/S Qualifier Champ

3. F/S Qualifier 2nd & 3rd place.

4.  F/S Qualifier 4th place. (Maybe 5th since they finish at essentially the same spot)

The rest of he competitors get drawn in.   Although if you want to keep the brackets at a manageable size for a one day event taking qualifiers past the top 5 placements will make that hard to do.  

 

 

If you wanted to have separation criteria for the F/S Qualifier it would just have to be regional qualifiers get the separation.  Then the rest are drawn in.  Is that a perfect system No (doesn’t account for sectional upsets or the stud JV guy). But it at least give a chance for most of the better guys to get separated and make of the top placements for state rather than face each other early.   

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, MattM said:

I’d also like to know if there is a plan to refine the separation criteria, at lest at the state level.  Last year the regional qualifier really didn’t matter in the separation which I thought was unfortunate for those that traveled far and battled hard to finish Hugh in the qualifier got nothing at state for that effort.   Some like this could be entered into track to create a more balanced bracket for those going to F/S State:

1. State qualifiers

2. Semi-state qualifiers and the F/S Qualifier Champ

3. F/S Qualifier 2nd & 3rd place.

4.  F/S Qualifier 4th place. (Maybe 5th since they finish at essentially the same spot)

The rest of he competitors get drawn in.   Although if you want to keep the brackets at a manageable size for a one day event taking qualifiers past the top 5 placements will make that hard to do.  

 

 

If you wanted to have separation criteria for the F/S Qualifier it would just have to be regional qualifiers get the separation.  Then the rest are drawn in.  Is that a perfect system No (doesn’t account for sectional upsets or the stud JV guy). But it at least give a chance for most of the better guys to get separated and make of the top placements for state rather than face each other early.   

 

 

 

I wonder how many qualifiers didn't participate?  Was there any bracket with more than 16? If so how many kids were in any one weight class?

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Brownsburg had two guys go and they had a decent amount of kids in their weight class. Been to too many tournaments since to recall but it was ran on track so you can look up information as to how big each weight was. It was a great tournament and I think we are going to push for more guys to go this year.

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