Jayruss Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Brought 13 to semi-state and 0 advance, has to be unprecedented. Still the second best program in the south LetsWrastle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 5 made it to the ticket round. Farmer and Casebolt were the only two I had punching their ticket. Both had tough matches and got "upset". I don't think it was as bad as it looks for them. 8 of their losses were to state placers/qualifiers 106 - Devon Casebolt (30-3) place is unknown and scored 0.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Logan Boe (Danville) 33-9 won by fall over Devon Casebolt (Castle) 30-3 (Fall 3:57)113 - Brooks Hartz (28-11) place is unknown and scored 0.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Asa Garcia (Avon) 38-0 won by major decision over Brooks Hartz (Castle) 28-11 (MD 13-2)120 - Neal Bealmear (29-6) place is unknown and scored 2.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Neal Bealmear (Castle) 29-6 won by decision over Keagan Koenig (Terre Haute South) 29-9 (Dec 5-0) Quarterfinal - Ty Mills (Brownsburg) 34-2 won by major decision over Neal Bealmear (Castle) 29-6 (MD 13-0)126 - Carson Willis (38-4) place is unknown and scored 3.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Carson Willis (Castle) 38-4 won by major decision over Zach Lane (Edgewood) 22-17 (MD 9-1) Quarterfinal - Graham Rooks (Columbus East) 42-0 won by major decision over Carson Willis (Castle) 38-4 (MD 9-1)132 - Matt Kincaid (18-9) place is unknown and scored 0.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Noah Franklin (New Washington) 40-4 won by fall over Matt Kincaid (Castle) 18-9 (Fall 1:24)138 - Robert Deters (33-10) place is unknown and scored 2.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Robert Deters (Castle) 33-10 won by decision over Daniel Bradburn (Edgewood) 24-15 (Dec 4-3) Quarterfinal - Nathan Conley (Avon) 33-6 won by decision over Robert Deters (Castle) 33-10 (Dec 8-5)145 - Jacob Freeman (26-14) place is unknown and scored 0.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Austin Heckman (Edgewood) 29-12 won by decision over Jacob Freeman (Castle) 26-14 (Dec 9-6)152 - Clay McNutt (29-12) place is unknown and scored 0.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Trace Thomas (Greencastle) 37-6 won by decision over Clay McNutt (Castle) 29-12 (Dec 3-2)160 - Jacob Farmer (34-8) place is unknown and scored 2.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Jacob Farmer (Castle) 34-8 won by decision over Josiah Freeman (Jeffersonville) 29-21 (Dec 4-0) Quarterfinal - Jaylen Adkins (Decatur Central) 28-8 won by decision over Jacob Farmer (Castle) 34-8 (Dec 4-3)170 - Carson Mohler (27-12) place is unknown and scored 0.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Jonah Hays (Center Grove) 29-11 won by decision over Carson Mohler (Castle) 27-12 (Dec 3-2)182 - Will Nunn (31-8) place is unknown and scored 0.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Brigham Kleinhenz (Columbus North) 22-6 won by decision over Will Nunn (Castle) 31-8 (Dec 18-13)195 - Will Rolley (29-10) place is unknown and scored 0.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Grant Goforth (Indian Creek) 33-6 won by decision over Will Rolley (Castle) 29-10 (Dec 3-1)220 - Brennan Norman (31-12) place is unknown and scored 4.00 team points. Champ. Round 1 - Brennan Norman (Castle) 31-12 won by fall over Dalton Pinaire (Eastern (Pekin)) 27-11 (Fall 0:42) Quarterfinal - Clayton Scroggs (Martinsville) 31-4 won by fall over Brennan Norman (Castle) 31-12 (Fall 3:37) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Avon got 5 out of 9 through Brownsburg 8 of 12 Bl. South 1 of 10 Edgewood 1 of 10 Col. East 5 of 8 Fl. Central 2 of 9 Jeffersonville 0 of 5 Jen. County 2 of 6 Mater Dei 5 of 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Somebody on another thread was railing on MD, but you can see they look pretty shiny compared to other good teams. Only 1 in 4 at semi-state advance. Getting 5 of 12 is a rate 67% better than average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangood1 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Monrovia with 3 of 5 punchin their ticket. Stock Twins, wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 The stocks have been great. Unranked all year and they are proving the rankings wrong christelboe, LetsWrastle and dangood1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Somebody on another thread was railing on MD, but you can see they look pretty shiny compared to other good teams. Only 1 in 4 at semi-state advance. Getting 5 of 12 is a rate 67% better than average. Not trying to rail on anyone & 5 of 12 is nothing to be ashamed of. But 5 of 12 is not 67%, it is approximately 42%. Furthermore, it is not what MD is used to doing. Edited February 12, 2017 by SIACfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) SIACfan I took it to means compares to the average chance of advancing wrestlers to state from the starting field at Semi-State. He was saying by getting 5 though that would be 67% better than the odds would say should happen for a team in general. Not the actual % of the 12 on the MD team that advanced. I didn't crunch the numbers to verify, but that's what I took his variables to be. Edited February 12, 2017 by MattM IU89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 SIACfan I took it to means compares to the average chance of advancing wrestlers to state from the starting field at Semi-State. He was saying by getting 5 though that would be 67% better than the odds would say should happen for a team in general. Not the actual % of the 12 on the MD team that advanced. Normal first round win % at semi-state = 50% EMD first round win % = 67%, which is a 33% better rate than 50% Normal advancement rate from semi-state = 25% EMD advancement rate = 42%, which is a 67% better rate than 25% In other words, in a loaded semi-state, their kids' quality still clearly exceeded other teams' semi-state & state level kids' quality this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtothemat Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Normal first round win % at semi-state = 50% EMD first round win % = 67%, which is a 33% better rate than 50% Normal advancement rate from semi-state = 25% EMD advancement rate = 42%, which is a 67% better rate than 25% In other words, in a loaded semi-state, their kids' quality still clearly exceeded other teams' semi-state & state level kids' quality this weekend. Never question Maligned's probability or statistics acumen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Normal first round win % at semi-state = 50% EMD first round win % = 67%, which is a 33% better rate than 50% Normal advancement rate from semi-state = 25% EMD advancement rate = 42%, which is a 67% better rate than 25% In other words, in a loaded semi-state, their kids' quality still clearly exceeded other teams' semi-state & state level kids' quality this weekend. OK - I understand your stats now, but your conclusion is a bit subjective. While it is technically true that only 1 in 4 advance, when 8 of 12 participants go into the SS as a regional champ (thus a #1 seed) then the success rate should be higher than the pure 25%. I am not trying to knock MD. I have nothing but complete & utter respect for their program, 8 regional champs speaks to their excellence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpt189 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I'd say Mater Dei's regional champs that didn't advance are for good reasons- the people who beat them were top notch quality Dickens lost to mosconi- a two time state qualifier Happe lost to wathen- a two time state qualifier Boots lost to Lee- a two time state qualifier Their other regional champs made it to state. I would say that's not bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I agree MD did a good job. I am certainly not trying to devalue their performance at all. Just saying that to compare their advancement rate to the technical 25% advancement rate is subjective at best & actually misleading given the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD92 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Dickens got pinned fairly quickly. I'd have liked to see them go a full 6 minutes. Not saying Dickens would have beaten him, was just hoping for a better match. Very tough draw for the freshman, but I don't think there was an easy draw at 120 at this semi-state. I thought Happe could have won his match. Very evenly matched IMO. I thought it was a tough draw for Boots. Lee may have been a little under the radar coming in. Very good wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I agree MD did a good job. I am certainly not trying to devalue their performance at all. Just saying that to compare their advancement rate to the technical 25% advancement rate is subjective at best & actually misleading given the circumstances. Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Shark Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Brought 13 to semi-state and 0 advance, has to be unprecedented. Still the second best program in the south Things might not have went as planned but I think it would be safe to say all the kids worked hard all season and some all year. This post states the obvious and poor taste to bash these kids. buzz lightyear and Jimtown 138 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtown 138 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) I'm sure the kids listed above are feeling good about his post... Edited February 13, 2017 by Jimtown 138 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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