ontherise219 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 With unranked Thomas Penola having a great Al smith beating several ranked opponents along the way I got to thinking who are some other guys the state or even semi state rankings are sleeping on that can make some noise? I'll start with one, after ihswca I thought Sam Osho Avon was a sleeper pick, he's a tough kid to wrestle then went to mater dei and beat a tough Reese. 800lbs Gorilla Mama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 You're dreaming about this in your sleep now Mike? Man the life of a rankings guy is rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Haha the rankings can always be better!! Honestly I didn't want to do a update before the holiday tourneys but those 2 were close penola will be in the mix for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Whiteland - 132 ? Deven Williams Danville - 170 Trizton Carson Danville - 106 Logan Boe Plainfields - 138 LJ Burdon Avon - 126 Roy Reynolds ----------- A few I'll be watching FCFIGHTER170 and ontherise219 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regionrat1 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 You're dreaming about this in your sleep now Mike? Man the life of a rankings guy is rough. Don't all true wraslin fans dream about wraslin. I have a nightmare about da time I wrasled Randy Lewis. He let met get his leg den flopped me on my head. Or when I wrasled Metzger and learned what a metzger was. I only think about da battles I lost. Dat was almost 40 years ago and I still have deem vivid dreams. ontherise219 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieWonder Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Whiteland - 132 ? Deven Williams Danville - 170 Trizton Carson Danville - 106 Logan Boe Plainfields - 138 LJ Burdon Avon - 126 Roy Reynolds ----------- A few I'll be watching Is Deven Williams back in the Whiteland room again? I heard from multiple people he had quite wrestling this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Is Deven Williams back in the Whiteland room again? I heard from multiple people he had quite wrestling this year. Yes, just wrestled at Ben Davis Tournament over Christmas break going (5-0) I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawdustin96 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Wes-Del 106 coltyn Abbott Wes-Del 152 Dylan Torbush ontherise219 and DelCo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieWonder Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Yes, just wrestled at Ben Davis Tournament over Christmas break going (5-0) I think. Thanks for the update, glad to hear he is back at it again. Deven is super tough kid and very athletic, he will be fun to watch the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelCo Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Those unranked in the Fort Wayne semistate who could do some damage Wes Del: 106 Coltyn Abbott and 152 Dylan Torbush Cowan: 152 DJ Bell Muncie Central: 145 Eliseus Young, 170 Kaiman Hayden, 195 Lorenzo Reyes Jay County: 120 Seth Fugiett 170 Ivan Hemmelgarn Southern Wells: 132 William Fiechter 170 Sam Smith shawdustin96 and ontherise219 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Scott(HH) 106. He's unranked and I believe he only has one loss(Escalara). In my opinion, he'll be 1 of 4 coming out of Castle Regionals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) We often think of the typical big jump in quality as being from freshman to sophomore year (me included), but the leap in quality for bigger guys is often the sophomore to junior year where the needed big-guy strength is catching up to the experience level. With Penola's breakout performance at the Al Smith, going from a first-round semi-state loser with double-digit losses as a sophomore to beating 4 straight top-12 guys and winning the Al Smith as a junior, it got me thinking about other bigger weight guys that were tough as sophomores last year. (We also miss the bigger guys in rankings sometimes because they don't compete in the off-season as much due to other sports, and because they can sneak up on us from less-regarded schools since strength and speed alone can translate to needed skills more easily with big fellas.) A couple I've seen that aren't state or semi-state ranked and could be overlooked because of emphasis on last year's results when there's a good chance there's that ability leap we're talking about: Sisk at 220 from Pike Central (37-8 last year)...should be at least top 3 coming out of Castle regional Kiave Guerrier at 182 from Evansville Central (32-11 last year)...just rolled through everyone except for a respectable 8-2 loss to #1 Walton (who's only gone the distance a couple times this year) in taking 3rd at Mooresville. Edited January 2, 2017 by maligned FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyoung Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Dheontae unseld he's unranked but has proven he's better than some guys ranked in his semi state nd even pinned one of them. FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 We often think of the typical big jump in quality as being from freshman to sophomore year (me included), but the leap in quality for bigger guys is often the sophomore to junior year where the needed big-guy strength is catching up to the experience level. With Penola's breakout performance at the Al Smith, going from a first-round semi-state loser with double-digit losses as a sophomore to beating 4 straight top-12 guys and winning the Al Smith as a junior, it got me thinking about other bigger weight guys that were tough as sophomores last year. (We also miss the bigger guys in rankings sometimes because they don't compete in the off-season as much due to other sports, and because they can sneak up on us from less-regarded schools since strength and speed alone can translate to needed skills more easily with big fellas.) A couple I've seen that aren't state or semi-state ranked and could be overlooked because of emphasis on last year's results when there's a good chance there's that ability leap we're talking about: Sisk at 220 from Pike Central (37-8 last year)...should be at least top 3 coming out of Castle regional Kiave Guerrier at 182 from Evansville Central (32-11 last year)...just rolled through everyone except for a respectable 8-2 loss to #1 Walton (who's only gone the distance a couple times this year) in taking 3rd at Mooresville. Another one I don't know much about...what's happening with Lowe of Greenfield-Central other than losing to Allred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoplata89 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Another one I don't know much about...what's happening with Lowe of Greenfield-Central other than losing to Allred? Brad has two losses to Allred and one loss to Wilson of Columbus East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpt189 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Sisk from pike central i believe is 26-2 this year with losses to Sulawske from memorial and Union county. He should see Halbig from Princeton this weekend Guerrier has one other loss this year, to McKinley of Tecumseh, who he beat back the following weekend ontherise219 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 There are so many competitive young big guys..170 will be fun for the podium..very close matches among all kinds sleepers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonster Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Dyoung, I agree, Unseld is tough and is on my watch list. Who did he pin that is in the top 8? When did this match take place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyoung Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Dyoung, I agree, Unseld is tough and is on my watch list. Who did he pin that is in the top 8? When did this match take place? He pinned Chris wilkerson at the new castle duals November 22. Also beat Zane strandridge 4-1 that day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonster Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Thank you for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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