DMelt19 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) Portage is still waiting to hear back from the appeal: http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-wrestling-notes-st-1220-20161219-story.html (Portage gets mentioned down near the bottom) Edited December 20, 2016 by DMelt19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAT36 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 YES! I predict that we will see one or both on Friday. No real insight.... just wishful thinking for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapplegirl Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Yes, let them wrestle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageGhost Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I was told they was both released. But I have not confirmed anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclematt138 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 absolutely let the kids wrestle ihsaa is putting thier future of possible scholarships in jeopardy very selfish on their part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesster125 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I believe the Moran family knew the consequences when they decided to transfer to Portage. They knew there would be a chance their boys would have to sit out. I hope they get to wrestle, but you cant blame the IHSAA, it was the Maran family that took the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU89 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I believe the Moran family knew the consequences when they decided to transfer to Portage. They knew there would be a chance their boys would have to sit out. I hope they get to wrestle, but you cant blame the IHSAA, it was the Maran family that took the chance. But you can blame Crown Point!! I hope they remember that Karma is a Beotch! grapplegirl and throw45 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLA76 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Why would Crown Point be at blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleM Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Why would Crown Point be at blame? Could be wrong here (correct me if I am) but if a kid transfers schools its the old school that has the choice to sign off or press the issue and keep ineligible? I think.. guillotine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillotine Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Could be wrong here (correct me if I am) but if a kid transfers schools its the old school that has the choice to sign off or press the issue and keep ineligible? I think.. that is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesster125 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 No ones to blame, just didnt go as planned. Gambled and came up short. Can't blame Crown Point, dont know to many AD's that will sign off on a kid that wants to go to a school in their conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICfan Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I dont know the situation, but didn't someone say the family moved to portage. If that is true they didn't gamble, they should have been eligible from the get go. IU89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matdad Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Let em wrestle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjayroza Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I dont know the situation, but didn't someone say the family moved to portage. If that is true they didn't gamble, they should have been eligible from the get go. From what I heard - yes they moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito pepperelli Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Move/Not Move is essentially irrelevant. It's about whether the change of schools was for primarily athletic reasons or a possible "past link" with the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throw45 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Essentially, any Indiana coach who opens their room to the public for an RTC or coaches other kids on one or more of our state's national teams had better take notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICfan Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Move/Not Move is essentially irrelevant. It's about whether the change of schools was for primarily athletic reasons or a possible "past link" with the coaching staff.But someone also said that the move was closer to the fathers work. Im sorry but the past link to a coaching staff/athletic reasons should not come in to play imo. Being that we live in indiana where weather can get bad, driving an hour to work (which I do) is terrible and dangerous. If the family moved closer to work that should be a strong enough reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavemen103 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yes let them wrestle! McWrastlePants and Pops 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grappleapple Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 But someone also said that the move was closer to the fathers work. Im sorry but the past link to a coaching staff/athletic reasons should not come in to play imo. Being that we live in indiana where weather can get bad, driving an hour to work (which I do) is terrible and dangerous. If the family moved closer to work that should be a strong enough reason. I think in this situation the Moran brothers should be able to wrestle. But, somewhere you have to have some safety measures, I feel, so in other cases coaches can't work with kids in the offseason and convince them to switch schools. I'm certainly not saying it happened here, but I do feel there needs to be measures in place to stop "recruiting" quality athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito pepperelli Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 But someone also said that the move was closer to the fathers work. Im sorry but the past link to a coaching staff/athletic reasons should not come in to play imo. Being that we live in indiana where weather can get bad, driving an hour to work (which I do) is terrible and dangerous. If the family moved closer to work that should be a strong enough reason. IF I were with the IHSAA or Crown Point (I am affiliated with neither), here are the questions I would ask as to the legitimacy of the transfer: 1. Is this hour drive due to a new job? If not, why is the hour drive now an issue? 2. Does this transfer have to do with the retirement of Coach Vlink or the new CP coach chosen? 3. What are the non-athletic reasons the family chose Portage. Let's be honest, if they moved to a school system with a so-so wrestling team the transfer denial doesn't happen. The whole issue of transfers boggles my mind and goes WAY beyond the Morans. Transfers of studs happen every year and people express shock when the IHSAA gets involved. It's natural to label the IHSAA as the evil big brother, but somebody has to enact and enforce the rules don't they? What would happen if kids could go wherever they want every year? Don't you have to draw a line somewhere? Big picture, I wonder how these transfer issues affect the perception of the IHSAA regarding team wrestling? It's the situation of the haves and have nots. Everybody in the Region knows Crown Point has benefited from transfers for the last decade or so. Now CP is no longer the "it" program, and it shifts to Portage. I just wonder if sooner or later the IHSAA says the hell with it and abandons the whole concept of wrestling as a team sport. All the issues that used to be relegated to college programs are slowly trickling down to the HS ranks. For Pete's sake, Bowman Academy (Gary) just a week or so ago had in ineligible player on their basketball team who NEVER attended school. The Coach, who is also the AD, expressed total shock that the kid hadn't attended school. How does that happen? Per standing operating procedure, he deflected the blame and threw someone else under the bus. Sorry, rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 IF I were with the IHSAA or Crown Point (I am affiliated with neither), here are the questions I would ask as to the legitimacy of the transfer: 1. Is this hour drive due to a new job? If not, why is the hour drive now an issue? 2. Does this transfer have to do with the retirement of Coach Vlink or the new CP coach chosen? 3. What are the non-athletic reasons the family chose Portage. Let's be honest, if they moved to a school system with a so-so wrestling team the transfer denial doesn't happen. The whole issue of transfers boggles my mind and goes WAY beyond the Morans. Transfers of studs happen every year and people express shock when the IHSAA gets involved. It's natural to label the IHSAA as the evil big brother, but somebody has to enact and enforce the rules don't they? What would happen if kids could go wherever they want every year? Don't you have to draw a line somewhere? Big picture, I wonder how these transfer issues affect the perception of the IHSAA regarding team wrestling? It's the situation of the haves and have nots. Everybody in the Region knows Crown Point has benefited from transfers for the last decade or so. Now CP is no longer the "it" program, and it shifts to Portage. I just wonder if sooner or later the IHSAA says the hell with it and abandons the whole concept of wrestling as a team sport. All the issues that used to be relegated to college programs are slowly trickling down to the HS ranks. For Pete's sake, Bowman Academy (Gary) just a week or so ago had in ineligible player on their basketball team who NEVER attended school. The Coach, who is also the AD, expressed total shock that the kid hadn't attended school. How does that happen? Per standing operating procedure, he deflected the blame and threw someone else under the bus. Sorry, rant over. Theo bowman had done some shady stuff in basketball in their short time as a program. If portage is ok with accepting them as students and they are good students who will graduate on time why does it matter? This isn't the NCAA where school are making profits off of students. I honesty don't see the big deal. pjayroza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Transfers like this happen in all sports. not just wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throw45 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Why can't parents choose to put their kids in the best position to succeed without penalty? I mean things change...people move for all kinds of reasons and want something different for their families. Granted, there have to be some restrictions, but if someone is willing to uproot their family and physically move to another school district where they have also enrolled their kids PRIOR to the start of a school year, whether it's for athletic reasons or any other extracurricular activity, why can't they do that without penalty? coachaking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 3185 kids transfered this year 12 were found ineligible. 12 that's it 3 from the wrestling community. 2655 were given full eligibility. Pops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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