mathewsz7 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Oh ok I for PH was there, but still in my mind and should be in his as well, if you are gonna win the AL SMITH, you are gonna have to beat several very good kids along the way, so 1 seed 2 seed shouldn't much matter rookie78 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdrodd1 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I guess that it could be like the Spartan Classic every year with blind draws and the pony express to get any updates. Perseverance and TheMajorGen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCard Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) At the end of the day, the goal of the seeding meeting should be to separate the two best wrestlers in the weight class. For the sake of discussion, and this is what this forum is all about I believe, using the argument against a different tournament from last year to seed a wrestler, could the same argument be used to argue against the results of the same tournament but a different weight class? For the record it does not matter to me, the better kids will eventually work their way through the tournament and beat kids that may have been a little over seeded. Edited December 22, 2016 by XCard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The seeding has been that way forever and it worked out...I was a returning champ and got the 2 seed to my good friend and buddy Taylor March as a returning Runner-up show up and wrestle it wont matter if you are truly the best eastdad18, WowWrestling24 and McWrastlePants 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianmorg Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 you sure about that? just a glance at the brackets IL kids with high seeds that didn't qualify for state but did well at the harvest last year isn't this is the second or third year they've seeded this He is sure about that trackgopher and GWCoach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsawwrestling Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The seeding has been that way forever and it worked out...I was a returning champ and got the 2 seed to my good friend and buddy Taylor March as a returning Runner-up show up and wrestle it wont matter if you are truly the best Ya but look at you now you are an over weight man child that is barely holding on to your belt! Just think how different life would have been if you were the 1 seed. WWF all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Who is the 3 seed that MCKAJC is so worried about, from what I see McIntosh/Crary will be the 1/2 seeds, & I'm assuming Crary will be the 2 and this is why he's so upset, so what I wanna know who is the 3 seed that makes such a huge difference from 1 to 2?? I'm guessing Colza??maybe, but not completely sure??? upset?? lol... why would you assume I'm upset? my debate is that it's unfair to seed wrestlers ahead of others that have placed here based on another event. why would I have to be upset to believe that? it's by far the predominant standard of seeding diamondintheruff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCard Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) Technically, Head to Head is usually the first criteria used when seeding most events. This year's Info sheet has 2015 Head to Head, which I am sure is a typo that did not get updated. Edited December 24, 2016 by XCard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingmom11 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Does anyone know if Al Smith will be streamed live??? Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Mishawaka high school students typically do a broadcast. wrestlingmom11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 An annual Christmas tradition in the Fuelling car on the way to the in-laws: Seeding the Al Smith If you find any mistakes, blame ontherise 106 1. Shearer-Garrett 2. Flores-Goshen 3. Haskins-Portage 4. Smith-LC 113 1. Cavanaugh-Penn 2. Watts-Jimtown 3. Peele-Portage 4. Just-Carroll 120 1. Mejia-EKM 2. Poynter-Portage 3. C. Rooks-CE 4. DeMien-Penn 126 1. Cummings-Low 2. G. Rooks-CE 3. DeLaPena-Merr 4. Becker-Bell 132 1. Tolin-Chesterton 2. Combest-CE 3. Prado-Portage 4. Ellis-Z 138 1. Black-Hobart 2. Rumph-Portage 3. Schoenegge-CE 4. Crary-Mun 145 1. McIntosh-Portage 2. Rasler-PH 3. Crary-Mun 4. Colza-Hob 152 1. Kern-Jim 2. Hatch-War 3. Coyle-CG 4. Breathitt-SBR 160 1. Mappes-CG 2. Lemley-Che 3. Busse-Bell 4. Levitz-PH 170 1. Goering-SBR 2. Baumgartner-Bell 3. Swank-Pen 4. Malone-SBA 182 1. Blakely-PH 2. L. Davison-Che 3. Faulkner-Mish 4. Torres-Port 195 1. Eli-EKM 2. A. Davison-Che 3. Hankenson-Bell 4. Leonard-NW 220 1. Carr-LC 2. Pokorney-Che 3. McKeever-Car 4. Vakalahi-Pen 285 1. Samuels-LN 2. Murillo-Port 3. Streck-Mer 4. Lawson-Car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantherman95 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Who is the 3 seed that MCKAJC is so worried about, from what I see McIntosh/Crary will be the 1/2 seeds, & I'm assuming Crary will be the 2 and this is why he's so upset, so what I wanna know who is the 3 seed that makes such a huge difference from 1 to 2?? I'm guessing Colza??maybe, but not completely sure??? Rasler at 26-0 knocked Crary out of the ticket round last year at state. Has yet to give up a takedown or reversal for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) Without seeing full lineups, most interesting weights based on above 4 seeds? 170..126? I'm sure a new thread will start in about an hour..just passing time. Edited December 29, 2016 by UncleJimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICfan Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) Without seeing full lineups, most interesting weights based on above 4 seeds? 170..126? I'm sure a new thread will start in about an hour..just passing time.I'm excited for 170, Baumgartner and Malone are both returning al smith runner ups from last year, and Goering and Swank both took 3rd. As talented as that group of 4 is, it's suprising there's only one state medal between them all. I know Swank and Malone looked good in the off season, even if Malones was limited. Edited December 29, 2016 by NICfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 170 is crazy tough Top 5 guys are all state qualifiers Penola vs. Rader first round will be tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 126 seeding? C'mon man...wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 126 seeding? C'mon man...wtf Umm yea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlevito Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) 126 seeding? C'mon man...wtf That's not the correct seeding. The brackets are all messed up and need fixed. Cause I know Becker got the 5 seed and he isn't even in that spot on the bracket. Edited December 29, 2016 by littlevito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Phew..thought maybe that's when the food got there and most people walked out the room. littlevito and Penn04 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 220 bracket is messed up past the 2nd seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 #BracketGate2016...get trackgopher in there next year!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 #BracketGate2016...get trackgopher in there next year!!He was there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackgopher Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I was there, but had no part in the creation of brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 126 I believe was 1. Cummings 2. Delapena 3. Rooks 4. Becker 5. Hunt 6. Gimson 7. Byman 8. Gobeyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Deny ..deny..deny! We need #TheCountyTmz up here...stat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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