Mattyb Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Everyone else....ask them! Cool answer bro!!! Anyway.. any unknown kids that are having break out seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsawwrestling Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Cool answer bro!!! Anyway.. any unknown kids that are having break out seasons? Everyone! DUDE! wrestlinggod3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Everyone! DUDE!Ok.. we get it.... thanks for your wisdom. Back to the topic... any solid kids that are under the radar that could give the kids listed above a good run for the money??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) 120 - Avon Camden Chatterton 145 - Avon Sam Osho 182 - Avon Caden Hubner Both wrestled great last year . Sam having a stellar year this year . Edited December 15, 2016 by TeamGarcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Seriously, how many Ervin kids are there? Are some of these cousins or did Mama and Papa Ervin not have cable TV the last 20 years? Camfisher9 and TeamGarcia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBolt Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Union County vs Mater Dei may be worth the price of admission. Both are solid. Have to give the edge to Union County in the upper weights though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Union County vs Mater Dei may be worth the price of admission. Both are solid. Have to give the edge to Union County in the upper weights though.It's not a dual format. Are you saying that these teams are going to run away with it? Edited December 15, 2016 by Mattyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Union County vs Mater Dei may be worth the price of admission. Both are solid. Have to give the edge to Union County in the upper weights though. Anytime you have #2 Avon vs. #3 EMD is worth the admission ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayruss Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 What happened to Will egli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridewrestler Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Seriously, how many Ervin kids are there? Are some of these cousins or did Mama and Papa Ervin not have cable TV the last 20 years? On this team, the three Ervin's are brothers (Jr. Saul, and Fr. twins Micah and Mathias). But in the past many of them have been cousins. Papa and Mama had 4 boys and 2 girls, then those all had approximately 1000 kids lol. There was an article in the Courier-Press a few years ago about this family. http://archive.courierpress.com/sports/high-school/wrestling-is-just-what-the-ervins-do-ep-447002808-327525111.html Edited December 16, 2016 by pridewrestler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 On this team, the three Ervin's are brothers (Jr. Saul, and Fr. twins Micah and Mathias). But in the past many of them have been cousins. Papa and Mama had 4 boys and 2 girls, then those all had approximately 1000 kids lol. There was an article in the Courier-Press a few years ago about this family. http://archive.courierpress.com/sports/high-school/wrestling-is-just-what-the-ervins-do-ep-447002808-327525111.html Thanks for sharing. I knew a decent amount about the Ervin's, but was not previously aware that Memorial's Wedding family was another off shoot of that clan. IU89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnathan Spencer Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 It's funny you ask if they didn't have cable TV when the family fortune I believe is from running cable TV to almost or all of Western Kentucky. Pretty prominent family outside of wrestling I believe. pridewrestler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 The team race may be the best competition with Avon, Mater Dei, and Union County. Any of these three could win it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Hook's Picks 132- md's Luigs and union's Ervin produced the "top match" in 2015. This could happen again, IF they get through the semifinal. Four legitimate contenders will vie for the final. Don't miss a match in this bracket! 152- same deal; a loaded bracket. There may be a surprise entry here... Hwt- can't see anyone but ripple and Henson on the center mat. These two both have another gear; I would like to see it. What will it be? Two very good athletes going at it, or two super tankers in a super dull push fest? Both have a chance at a deep run...turn the dogs loose! Two new entries for gastro enthusiasts: Breakfast- kite and key on historic Franklin street. Only a few minutes from md with the best coffee and friendliest staff in the city. Lunch or supper- try azzip pizza for a truly unique pizza experience. I STRONGLY recommend the "westsider". It is topped with grippo chips. To immerse yourself in the experience, wash it down with a ski. You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 My picks 106-Escalara(UC) 113-Garcia(Av). Freshman Adams from UC could upset 120-Wheeler(SX) 126-Lee(EMD) 132-Luigs(EMD) tough pick over Ervin 138-Scheffer(UC) 145-Oxford(UC) 152- Lee(EMD) no surprise here Hook 160-Van Horn(FC) 170-Ervin(UC) 182-Buckman(UC) 195-Kulmer(TR) 220-Larson(Av) 285-Ripple(MV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) My picks 106-Escalara(UC) 113-Garcia(Av). Freshman Adams from UC could upset 120-Wheeler(SX) 126-Lee(EMD) 132-Luigs(EMD) tough pick over Ervin 138-Scheffer(UC) 145-Oxford(UC) 152- Lee(EMD) no surprise here Hook 160-Van Horn(FC) 170-Ervin(UC) 182-Buckman(UC) 195-Kulmer(TR) 220-Larson(Av) 285-Ripple(MV) Just some facts Avon- Rioux has a win (pin) over Escalara in Middle School. Garcia has wrestled 120 this year. 132-Miranda is pretty good . 285- Henson is Bigger & Better Just stating some facts . Edited December 18, 2016 by TeamGarcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Kentucky looking tough this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800lbs Gorilla Mama Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Can't wait to see how Avon stacks up at EMD. I like that only Avon thinks the Avon kids have a chance.It might be like at Semi State 2 years ago in Evansville when Avon won and they would not announce it or give Avon the award. Avon's Coach had to go up to the head table and ask for it. any where in Evansville is a VERY tough place to win, even when you win. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillotine Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Can't wait to see how Avon stacks up at EMD. I like that only Avon thinks the Avon kids have a chance.It might be like at Semi State 2 years ago in Evansville when Avon won and they would not announce it or give Avon the award. Avon's Coach had to go up to the head table and ask for it. any where in Evansville is a VERY tough place to win, even when you win. :-) Mama.....i would be concerned of union county also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pridewrestler Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) I don't see Ervin at 170 winning it. But I do think Saul at 132 takes the crown. Also, Sam Bacon (union 120) just took the top ranked kid in Ky to overtime. He could place high on the podium at the Holiday Classic. Any reason on why memorial is not competing this year? Can't wait to see this tournament. Edited December 18, 2016 by pridewrestler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 State placement (didn't include qualifiers) and this years ranking KENTUCKY Nate Wheeler (St. Xavier) 40-4 3rd @ 106 Currently ranked 2nd at 120 Colton Lampe (Fern Creek) 46-4 3rd @ 113 Currently ranked 6th at 126 Konner Kraeszig (St. Xavier) 32-8 2nd @ 113 Currently ranked 3rd at 138 Saul Ervin (Union County) 2nd @ 120 Currently ranked 1st at 132 Austin Cook (St. Xavier) 36-10 7th @ 120 Currently ranked 4th at 126 Bryce Sheffer (Union County) STATE CHAMP @ 126 Currently ranked 1st at 138 Micah Ervin (Union County) 7th @ 132 Currently ranked 9th at 152 (FRESHMAN) Dallas Miles (St. Xavier) 32-7 4th @ 145 Currently ranked 3rd at 145 Avery Buckman (Union County) 3rd @ 170 Currently ranked 3rd at 182 INDIANA Asa Garcia (Avon) STATE CHAMP @ 106 Currently ranked 1st at 113 Alec White (NEW PAL) 6th @ 113lbs Currently 5th at 126 Kyle Luigis (Mater Dei) 6th at 113 in 2015 Currently 9th at 132 Jacob Clark (Avon) 7th@ 152 Currently 5th at 152 Joe Lee (Mater Dei) STATE CHAMP @ 145 Currently 1st at 160 Burk Van Horn (Franklin) 2nd @ 160 Currently 2nd at 160 Kurtis Wildeman (Mater Dei) 6th @ 195 Currently 4th at 195 Gunnar Karson (Avon) 2nd @ 220 Currently 2nd at 220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Champion Prediction in RED and Last years Mater Dei Classic champ in BLUE 106 #1 (KY) Union Zeke Escalena #5 (KY) Trin. Landon Lenhart #8 MD Hinderliter #9 Avon Ray Rioix Dakota Erickson New Albany (Semi State #8)113 #1 Avon Asa Garcia (Defending Mater Dei Classic 2015 CHAMPION-106)#8 (KY) Union Gabe Adams #21 (KY) Trin. Connor Goldsmith #14 MD K. Egli Cameron Fisher North Posey (Semi State #6)120 #2 (KY) St. X Nate Wheeler #6 MD Eli Dickens#6 (KY) Union Sam Bacon Camden Chatterton Avon (Semi State #8)126 #4 (KY) St. X Austin Cook 5th Alec White New Pal (Defending Mater Dei Classic 2015 CHAMPION-113)#11 (KY) Trin. Zach Taylor #14 MD Matt Lee#23 (KY) Union Payne Carr HM (IL) BW Mitch Millsap 132 #1 (KY) Union Saul Ervin (Defending Mater Dei Classic 2015 CHAMPION-120)#4 (KY) St. X Kaden Darbro #7 Avon Mason Miranda #9 MD K. Luigs Losses in OTHM BW Justin Koderhandt Levi Miller New Albany (State Qualifier @ 106 in 2015 and semi state #8)138 #1 (KY) Union Bryce Sha\effer #3 (KY) St. X Konner Kraeszig #4 FC Sellmer#5 Avon Nathan Conley #8 (IL) BW Garrett Bass (Darkhorse)145 #3 (KY) St. X Dallas Miles #5 (KY) Union Chance Oxford HM (IL) BW Logan Johnson 152 #5 Avon Jacob Clark #6 MV Bethel (Defending Mater Dei Classic 2015 CHAMPION-145)#9 (KY) Union Micah Ervin #16 Trevor Reese Franklin (Semi State #5) (Defending Mater Dei Classic 2015 CHAMPION-138)#20 (KY) St. X Jimmy Kraeszig 160 #1 MD Joe Lee #2 FC. Van Horn (Defending Mater Dei Classic 2015 CHAMPION-160)#3 (KY) St. X Cameron Ward #7 Avon Carson Brewer Micah Keller Mt. Vernon (Semi state #8)170 #12 NA Aaron Mosley#17 (KY) Union Mathias Ervin #20 (KY) St. X Austin Towles 182 #3 (KY) Union Avery Buckman (Defending Mater Dei Classic 2015 CHAMPION-170)#7 NA Sonner (Defending Mater Dei Classic 2015 CHAMPION-182)#12 Franklin Moore #18 (KY) St. X Zach Cummella Karl Hauser (Floyd Central) (Semi state #7) 195 #5 Kurtis Wildeman Mater Dei#6 (KY) Trin. Kadin Kulmer Bradley Philpot Floyd Central (Semi state #4)220 #2 Avon Larson #10 MD Boots #14 (KY) Union Ross Hicks #19 (KY) St. X Ben Deprest Manny Cheam Franklin (Semi state #7) Landon Burton New Pal (Not ranked in SS but gave Scroggs from Martinville a 3-1 match)285 #7 Avon Henson #6 MV Ripple #12 (KY) Union Payton Synder Edited December 19, 2016 by navy80 guillotine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Deepest Weight Class-138 HM: 106-132-220 Weakest Weight Class- 170 HM: 195-285-120 Most anticipated match 1. Saul Ervin vs. Kyle Luiguis- Last year Ervin won 3-1 in the finals 2. Joe Lee vs Burk Van Horn- Indiana’s #1 versus #2 3. Avery Buckman vs Jaden Sonner Both are defending classic champions 4. Brett Henson vs Wade Ripple- Possible Semi State Finals match and top ten hwts Question to be answered 1. Can Hinderlifter or Rioux give Kentucky’s stud middle schooler a match at 106? 2. Will Van Horn or Lee bump up or down to avoid facing each other? 3. Can Mason Miranda pull the upset of Ervin or Luigis? 4. How good is Sellmer? He is having a great year in beating Melloh of Cathedral and losing to Rumph in OT. I can see him getting 1st or 5th as 138 is loaded! 5. Who from Avon will have a mediocre tournament but make it to state? Last year Jacob Clark finished 5th at Mater Dei but 7th at state. Conley finished 5th at Mater Dei and was a SQ. 6. Most importantly, who wins the team race?? Union County beat Castle worse than Mater Dei did. Team Rankings- Union County #1, Avon #2, Mater Dei #3. How many state champs will come from the classic? Every year seems to produce around 3-7 state champs. Predictions- I say 9 state champs #1 (KY) Union Zeke Escalena #1 Avon Asa Garcia #2 (KY) St. X Nate Wheeler #1 (KY) Union Saul Ervin #1 (KY) Union Bryce Sheffer #1 MD Joe Lee #2 FC. Van Horn #3 (KY) Union Avery Buckman guillotine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpt189 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Navy, you have princeton wrestlers listed. Did they drop the Al Smith to come to the Classic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Navy, you have princeton wrestlers listed. Did they drop the Al Smith to come to the Classic? My bad....For some reason I thought they were at the classic. Thanks Edited December 19, 2016 by navy80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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