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Both Indiana Greco teams off to a rough start after losing their opening matches.

 

Pool D - Indiana Gold GR is guaranteed 8th place
Match #1 Quarterfinal: Minnesota 1 GR defeated Indiana Gold GR 49-30
98 - Cael Berg (Minnesota 1 GR) over Tyler Fuqua (Indiana Gold GR) TF 15-3
105 - Reid Ballantyne (Minnesota 1 GR) over Drake Campbell (Indiana Gold GR) TF 13-0
112 - Ryan Sokol (Minnesota 1 GR) over Blake Boarman (Indiana Gold GR) TF 13-2
120 - Owen Sego (Indiana Gold GR) over Jack Fudge (Minnesota 1 GR) Dec 7-4
128 - Connor Dehn (Minnesota 1 GR) over Jaden Reynolds (Indiana Gold GR) TF 12-2
136 - Aiden Warren (Indiana Gold GR) over Tylor Schroedel (Minnesota 1 GR) Fall 1:10
144 - Raymond Ellis (Indiana Gold GR) over Ethan Johnson (Minnesota 1 GR) Dec 9-2
152 - Kyle Stahler (Minnesota 1 GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
160 - Mac Kukowski (Minnesota 1 GR) over Garrett Sandefur (Indiana Gold GR) TF 12-2
175 - Jagger Schack (Minnesota 1 GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
190 - Collin McCarthy (Minnesota 1 GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
210 - Drew Webster (Indiana Gold GR) over Jackson Esping (Minnesota 1 GR) Fall 0:45
265 - Daniel Snyder (Indiana Gold GR) over Tobias Dehn (Minnesota 1 GR) Fall 2:52
70 - Reid Nelson (Minnesota 1 GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
77 - Walker Bents (Minnesota 1 GR) over Carter Overby (Indiana Gold GR) TF 10-0
84 - Matthew Hogue (Minnesota 1 GR) over Ben Dalton (Indiana Gold GR) Dec 11-8
91 - Andrew Sinkovics (Indiana Gold GR) over Ryan Scherber (Minnesota 1 GR) TF 10-0

 

Pool B - Indiana Blue GR is guaranteed 8th place

Match #1 Quarterfinal: Virginia GR defeated Indiana Blue GR 63-17
98 - Gene Quodala (Virginia GR) over Colton Drousias (Indiana Blue GR) TF 12-2
105 - Johnny Laird (Virginia GR) over Phenix Carney (Indiana Blue GR) Fall 1:30
112 - Mason Dubois (Virginia GR) over Andrew Wilson (Indiana Blue GR) TF 10-0
120 - Carson Manville (Virginia GR) over Christian Carroll (Indiana Blue GR) TF 12-0
128 - Kade Law (Indiana Blue GR) over Lane Cash (Virginia GR) Fall 1:33
136 - Jack Campbell (Virginia GR) over Ethan Nash (Indiana Blue GR) Dec 10-4
144 - Christian Smith (Virginia GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
152 - Jayden Walker (Virginia GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
160 - Samuel Fisher (Virginia GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
175 - Chaz Keen (Virginia GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
190 - Taja Showers (Virginia GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
210 - Donald Perry (Virginia GR) over Hunter Illingworth (Indiana Blue GR) TF 10-0
265 - Issac Childress (Indiana Blue GR) over Patrick Holder (Virginia GR) Fall 0:46
70 - Matthew Eberly (Virginia GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
77 - Zachary Espalin (Virginia GR) over Gage Cline (Indiana Blue GR) TF 14-4
84 - Evan Holloway (Virginia GR) over David Pierson (Indiana Blue GR) TF 12-1
91 - Jeivan Ross (Indiana Blue GR) over Domonic Baker (Virginia GR) Dec 10-9

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Yikes. Seems to be a lot of FF's considering it's an in state tourney? Is this the norm?

Just looking at last years results, Gold team only had one FF, and the blue team had 5 on the Greco side. I didnt see any post trying to fill spots for the Greco team. 

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Ok, I'll ask since it's been kinda boring around here lately...is this yet another indictment of the success of the ISWA 2 tourney mandate rule? I don't think 10 combined FF's for your top 2 state teams at a national tourney in your home state shows a growth in the styles, which I believe was one of the two outcomes that was hoped to be achieved.

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We had three weights alone without a single competitor and another two that had only a single competitor at freestyle state. These kids aren't even in high school, so we can't blame Mickey Mouse for their absence. 

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Indiana Gold bounces back, but shorthanded Indiana Blue drops another dual.

 

 

Match #2 Cons. Round 1: Indiana Gold GR defeated Team Delaware GR 42-16
105 - Ethan Gray (Team Delaware GR) over Drake Campbell (Indiana Gold GR) Dec 8-7
112 - Will Carl (Team Delaware GR) over Blake Boarman (Indiana Gold GR) Dec 18-16
120 - Owen Sego (Indiana Gold GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
128 - Jackson Dean (Team Delaware GR) over Jaden Reynolds (Indiana Gold GR) TF 13-0
136 - Azeem Bell (Team Delaware GR) over Aiden Warren (Indiana Gold GR) Dec 8-8
144 - Raymond Ellis (Indiana Gold GR) over Jacob Dempsey (Team Delaware GR) TF 10-0
152 - Double Forfeit
160 - Garrett Sandefur (Indiana Gold GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
175 - Double Forfeit
190 - Double Forfeit
210 - Drew Webster (Indiana Gold GR) over Hyram Lasher (Team Delaware GR) Fall 1:13
265 - Daniel Snyder (Indiana Gold GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
70 - Double Forfeit
77 - Gabe Giampetro (Team Delaware GR) over Carter Overby (Indiana Gold GR) Dec 13-9
84 - Ben Dalton (Indiana Gold GR) over Joe Natarcola (Team Delaware GR) TF 10-0
91 - Andrew Sinkovics (Indiana Gold GR) over Patrick Wiznewski (Team Delaware GR) Fall 2:20
98 - Tyler Fuqua (Indiana Gold GR) over Cole Jester (Team Delaware GR) Fall 0:27

 

Indiana Gold will wrestle Colorado Blue in the Pool A wrestlebacks.

 

 

Match #2 Cons. Round 1: Minnesota 2 GR defeated Indiana Blue GR 68-12

105 - Kyle Boeke (Minnesota 2 GR) over Phenix Carney (Indiana Blue GR) TF 12-2
112 - Garrett Pavelko (Minnesota 2 GR) over Andrew Wilson (Indiana Blue GR) TF 10-0
120 - Trevon Johnson (Minnesota 2 GR) over Christian Carroll (Indiana Blue GR) Fall 1:46
128 - Kade Law (Indiana Blue GR) over Quayin Short (Minnesota 2 GR) Dec 11-5
136 - Ethan Nash (Indiana Blue GR) over Austin Kloos (Minnesota 2 GR) Dec 4-3
144 - Joey Lipinski (Minnesota 2 GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
152 - Ryan Erickson (Minnesota 2 GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
160 - Mike Sprung (Minnesota 2 GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
175 - Justin Matson (Minnesota 2 GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
190 - Jack Haglund (Minnesota 2 GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
210 - Caleb Bahr (Minnesota 2 GR) over Hunter Illingworth (Indiana Blue GR) TF 11-0
265 - Isaiah Noeldner (Minnesota 2 GR) over Issac Childress (Indiana Blue GR) Fall 1:26
70 - Jore Volk (Minnesota 2 GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
77 - Cael Lorentz (Minnesota 2 GR) over Gage Cline (Indiana Blue GR) Fall 3:55
84 - Logan Vaughan (Minnesota 2 GR) over David Pierson (Indiana Blue GR) TF 12-1
91 - Cael Swensen (Minnesota 2 GR) over Jeivan Ross (Indiana Blue GR) TF 11-0
98 - Colton Drousias (Indiana Blue GR) over Trayton Hewitt (Minnesota 2 GR) TF 15-4

 

Indiana Blue will wrestle Kansas Blue in the Pool B 7th place bout.

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Indiana Gold pulls off another win. Indiana Gold will wrestle in the Pool D third place bout. As of right now they are still alive to finish top 8 in the country.

 

 

Match #3 Cons. Semi: Indiana Gold GR defeated Colorado Blue GR 44-33
112 - Blake Boarman (Indiana Gold GR) over Cameron Lucero (Colorado Blue GR) TF 12-1
120 - Owen Sego (Indiana Gold GR) over Tyson Beauperthuy (Colorado Blue GR) TF 10-0
128 - Nicholas Gallegos (Colorado Blue GR) over Jaden Reynolds (Indiana Gold GR) TF 10-0
136 - Aiden Warren (Indiana Gold GR) over Hobie Beck (Colorado Blue GR) Fall 0:55
144 - Raymond Ellis (Indiana Gold GR) over Skyler Hill (Colorado Blue GR) Fall 0:17
152 - Kaden Koksma (Colorado Blue GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
160 - Brian Paxton (Colorado Blue GR) over Garrett Sandefur (Indiana Gold GR) Dec 12-10
175 - Michael Serna (Colorado Blue GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
190 - Jeremiah Vasquez (Colorado Blue GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
210 - Drew Webster (Indiana Gold GR) over Jon Young (Colorado Blue GR) TF 10-0
265 - Daniel Snyder (Indiana Gold GR) over Kyle Good (Colorado Blue GR) Fall 0:36
70 - Brayden Legge (Colorado Blue GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
77 - Dillon Roman (Colorado Blue GR) over Carter Overby (Indiana Gold GR) Dec 9-6
84 - Ben Dalton (Indiana Gold GR) over Kenneth Crosby (Colorado Blue GR) Dec 15-7
91 - Andrew Sinkovics (Indiana Gold GR) over Ivan Morris (Colorado Blue GR) TF 10-0
98 - Tyler Fuqua (Indiana Gold GR) over Vincent Fortin-Munoz (Colorado Blue GR) Fall 0:30
105 - Drake Campbell (Indiana Gold GR) over Owen Berry (Colorado Blue GR) Dec 8-5

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More tough luck for Indiana Gold and Blue. Gold lost their match to Arizona to finish 4th in their pool. Blue lost their match to Kansas Blue to finish 8th in their pool. 

 

 

Match #3 7th Place Match: Indiana Blue GR defeated Kansas Blue GR 39-13
120 - Christian Carroll (Indiana Blue GR) over Brodie Scott (Kansas Blue GR) Dec 6-4
128 - Kade Law (Indiana Blue GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
136 - Double Forfeit
144 - Ethan Nash (Indiana Blue GR) over Kobi Lawrence (Kansas Blue GR) Fall 1:00
152 - Double Forfeit
160 - Double Forfeit
175 - Double Forfeit
190 - Double Forfeit
210 - Hunter Illingworth (Indiana Blue GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
265 - Issac Childress (Indiana Blue GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
70 - Double Forfeit
77 - Gage Cline (Indiana Blue GR) over Trevor Andrew (Kansas Blue GR) Fall 0:43
84 - Cruz Lara (Kansas Blue GR) over David Pierson (Indiana Blue GR) Fall 1:23
91 - Jeivan Ross (Indiana Blue GR) over Alyeus Craig (Kansas Blue GR) Dec 20-14
98 - Colton Drousias (Indiana Blue GR) over Dallas Koelzer (Kansas Blue GR) Dec 8-3
105 - Phenix Carney (Indiana Blue GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
112 - Taidon Willis (Kansas Blue GR) over Andrew Wilson (Indiana Blue GR) Fall 0:29

 

 

 

Match #4 3rd Place Match: Team Arizona GR defeated Indiana Gold GR 42-33
120 - Owen Sego (Indiana Gold GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
128 - Jaden Reynolds (Indiana Gold GR) over Enrique Macias (Team Arizona GR) TF 10-0
136 - Aiden Warren (Indiana Gold GR) over Ote Allsup (Team Arizona GR) Fall 3:17
144 - Raymond Ellis (Indiana Gold GR) over Sebastian Valencia (Team Arizona GR) Fall 0:58
152 - Cade Cunningham (Team Arizona GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
160 - Ty Ryan (Team Arizona GR) over Garrett Sandefur (Indiana Gold GR) Dec 4-2
175 - Eli Sobas (Team Arizona GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
190 - Double Forfeit
210 - Nathaniel Deasey (Team Arizona GR) over Drew Webster (Indiana Gold GR) Fall 0:25
265 - Justin Perez (Team Arizona GR) over Daniel Snyder (Indiana Gold GR) Fall 1:39
70 - Jozabad Ayala (Team Arizona GR) over Unknown (Unattached) Forf 
77 - Carter Overby (Indiana Gold GR) over Nathan Bigelow (Team Arizona GR) Fall 2:59
84 - Ben Dalton (Indiana Gold GR) over Johnny Sierra-Rodriguez (Team Arizona GR) Dec 10-3
91 - Ramon Ramos (Team Arizona GR) over Andrew Sinkovics (Indiana Gold GR) Fall 2:00
98 - Jesse Ybarra (Team Arizona GR) over Tyler Fuqua (Indiana Gold GR) TF 18-8
105 - Kaden Larkin (Team Arizona GR) over Drake Campbell (Indiana Gold GR) TF 11-0
112 - Blake Boarman (Indiana Gold GR) over Diego Gutierrez (Team Arizona GR) TF 12-0

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I don't think it's luck whether they win or lose, at this level it takes more skill than luck.

 

It might take some luck when you have that many forfeits.

 

That looks like Blue won....unless im crazy

Yes, I misread, I'm trying to work and look at results at the same time. 

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Ok, I'll ask since it's been kinda boring around here lately...is this yet another indictment of the success of the ISWA 2 tourney mandate rule? I don't think 10 combined FF's for your top 2 state teams at a national tourney in your home state shows a growth in the styles, which I believe was one of the two outcomes that was hoped to be achieved.

I could only wonder how much better both Indiana teams would have been if there was a better selection process.  The host state should not have any FF's and they also shouldn't have any problems getting the best kids at every weight to wrestle.  Definitely need a new system. 

 

I wonder how many Indiana All Americans will be crowned at USA Nationals in schoolboy division that were not allowed in this event.

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Maybe 1-5. Jesse for sure. But the caliber of competition at schoolboy duals was no joke. The kids who competed wrestled their butts off. Forfeits killed them. They are killing the cadet teams as well. Regardless of what anyone thinks, we need to get better at freestyle and Greco as a state. If that means getting qualifiers in, so be it. If not, we need to scrap it all together on duals, and the kids who truly love it, train it, can turn focus on Fargo/kids nationals and invest in those kids. We can't embarrass ourselves much longer as a state with these incomplete dual teams. There are many variables to address to fix it, but filling the spots themselves has nothing to do with qualifiers. There were plenty of able bodies to fill the spots. Head coaches are not doing their jobs, clubs are not stepping up, kids are not stepping up to represent our state.

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There are so many factors that can deter kids from making some of the trips. Cost, location and shortened summer breaks all play a part in a kids choice, not including competing against other sports, baseball games and football camps going on plus the fact that freestyle and Greco seem to be dying in Indiana. Let's look at a choice between your high school team going to Disney versus the Jr Team Indiana going Oklahoma. Most are going to choose Disney with their friends and high school teammates over Oklahoma. I know I would. If the family chooses to go to Disney they can extend it a few days and enjoy vacation as well.

 

The freestyle season in Indiana has taken a backseat to national folkstyle tournaments, whether individual or team. We did our 2 qualifiers and wrestled a total of 3 times spending $30 for entry fees, plus gas, food and gate fees driving over 200+ miles. In my mind the cost versus the reward wasn't worth the money, then we get to state and spend $35 plus all the above mentioned fees to not wrestle at all. It had been a few years since we had wrestled much freestyle so with the vast experience we gained in the 3 tournaments that we wrestled in(sarcasm) and the cost of team Indiana we opted to go to the Va Beach tournamnent, hit several local folkstyle summer duals with our high school team, will wrestle at the Grand River Rumble coming up in July plus camp at the end of June and spend just a little more than the cost of team Indiana. Kind of an easy decision in my house.

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Meanwhile, our national teams have forfeits AND are outclassed.  Prominent college coach, USAW coach and former World and Olympic Champion told me at UWW Junior World Team Trials not too long ago that, "IF we aren't careful and continue to go down this path, with our famed one-class State Championship, Indiana wrestling will become irrelevant."   Ouch.....

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Good stuff....couldn't agree more! ISWA doesn't cater to the customer! They rather argue, tell us to go to a meeting and rip people when they make suggestions. ISWA works great if you are 15-30 minutes from Indy! But even Indy was a huge show at Disney. It's almost a waste talking about it, because they have their "click" and we the customer have to prove our worth to them to have any merit in their conversations! You cannot tell me that all the drama with the ISWA (mostly the last 2 years) isn't having an impact on numbers both in state and national competition! I know 4 Champs in Freestyle from 2014 that haven't wrestled freestyle since.

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Ya, because we changed it to single class over the last few years. I disagree. Mainly because of technology. You can in 5 minutes look up a kid and see how they measure up if they go to National tournaments. Track has changed a lot of that, how would they measure up questions. You don't have to be at those tournaments or know someone that was to get that information now!

 

I watched a lot of Indiana kids that were not state qualifiers beating up on state placers and Champs from other states all week long!

 

Meanwhile, our national teams have forfeits AND are outclassed. Prominent college coach, USAW coach and former World and Olympic Champion told me at UWW Junior World Team Trials not too long ago that, "IF we aren't careful and continue to go down this path, with our famed one-class State Championship, Indiana wrestling will become irrelevant." Ouch.....

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Meanwhile, our national teams have forfeits AND are outclassed.  Prominent college coach, USAW coach and former World and Olympic Champion told me at UWW Junior World Team Trials not too long ago that, "IF we aren't careful and continue to go down this path, with our famed one-class State Championship, Indiana wrestling will become irrelevant."   Ouch.....

Coach,

I couldn't agree more about the forfeits, that is very fraustrating! But I do not believe that we were outclassed in the slightest. I may have read this wrong and I apologize if I did. However, as a parent and fan that drove to York, PA to watch our athletes first hand and the way they battled the best kids in the country, not one of our boys were outclassed. The team members we had wrestled at a very high level and I left there afterwards very impressed with how good our kids are with the limited amount of time spent training for freestyle/Greco. The coaches were spectacular as well. I surely hope no one sits back and thinks we, as Team Indiana were outclassed by anyone or any team there. We fell victim of 4 FF's and medical skin issue which took one of our boys out of competition but the ones that stepped on the mat were and are the cream of the crop.

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@Bluemonster - (this isnt a rant towards you)

 

Forfeits definitely kill us, whether our kids are outclassed or not.  Unfortunately I disagree about us being outclassed though.  I have been fortunate enough to have coached our national teams at every level (Schoolboy, Cadets & Junior Duals, Fargo, All UWW World Team Trials, IHSAA State Finals, etc) and we are definitely behind the curve VERSUS the top states in regards to CONSISTENCY. That I believe is one of the main differences between my position versus most other coaches here in Indiana:  I am measuring us against the top states in the country, not just every state in the country, collectively and individually.  We beat who we are supposed to beat and lose to who we are supposed to lose to, forfeits or not.  But forfeits definitely kill any teams chances of winning it all, except Griffith of course. Things may have changed since I have coached these teams but not much.  If the current national results are indicative of where we are at as a state, we are on the wrong track in the eyes of the top college programs in the country.  This is a widely respected coach who I am cool with that brought this to me personally.  Yes, he mirrored my thoughts, but I'm still left there to shake my head in shame and try to make excuses for the state.  He didn't care. No one even pops up on their radar if they don't have success in the Olympic styles. Sure, we have a few good individuals on these national teams, but not nearly enough.  Do we consistently All-American at these duals? No.  When was the last time Indiana won a national freestyle/greco dual? When was the last time we were in the finals for that matter? When highly respected Coach X says this to me, and we send x amount of teams to Virginia, Disney, Dells, Iowa and do well, but cant fill a national team?!?!?  Tough convo to be in, but no one hear's that convo from them.  Again, it's been a few years since I coached at the Cadet Duals, so I am not saying this to disrespect our kids, because I know for a fact they wrestle their hardest.......but that still isn't enough.  I didn't see it but our match versus New Jersey Red I imagine was an outclassed issue, not an effort or forfeit issue.  This is just one example of countless that our state is consistently outclassed at the highest level versus the highest caliber competition....in the styles that the top collegiate programs look at.  It is no wonder that Perry Meridian has consistently been one of the best programs in the state, because they consistently MAKE their kids wrestle these styles.  In the words of Snoop Dog, the game is to be sold, not told, and it starts with the coaches.

Edited by Coach Hull

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