Dingo Brigade Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Pretty solid rumor is that Red Sr. Proposed meeting at 140 earlier in the week and was rebuffed by Pletcher's camp. So, Pletcher could've had the match if he really wanted it. Doesn't erase Red's weight issue, but makes it clear that Pletcher could've tried for revenge if he really wanted to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Haters gonna hate Red would have SMASHED pledger IMO. Would have loved to seen the dance celebration. Anybody know what color was juniors hair? Why is it hate? that's your word, you have to first care enough to hate, so... I think that removes the word "hate" from this wrestling conversation. "Pretty solid rumor is that Red Sr. Proposed meeting at 140 earlier in the week and was rebuffed by Pletcher's camp. So, Pletcher could've had the match if he really wanted it. Doesn't erase Red's weight issue, but makes it clear that Pletcher could've tried for revenge if he really wanted to do so." Proposed at "140"? why would 3 pounds be a sticking point? Wouldn't seem to make sense. Would it? No offense, but I don't buy it. That would mean that Pletcher knew Red wasn't going to wrestle. Edited March 27, 2016 by MCKAJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANMAN Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 So, did Hughes make 167 to be able to wrestle 160 for the US team? After he wrestled 170 for team Indiana earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Hughes weighed in at 172 on Friday when he got there. He was 3lbs UNDER weight after eating breakfast and lunch before arriving at the hotel. The circumstances behind his placement in the main event were completely different. He wasn't informed of this until about 10am yesterday. Given that he was so light and would have probably at least tried to make 165 even on Friday they committee decided to let him wrestle. On top of that it was the best possible match-up along with Wetzel and his camp agreeing to the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matking26 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Red dont have to prove himself to you people anymore. To see you people bash so much to this man is sickening seeing that he is from our state. He has won 4 state titles. Won numorous of national events. Been ranked #1 in the country 2 years straight and not to mention has BEATEN pletcher twice. You people show so much hate to someone that does nothing but made our state look good. Now dont get me wrong RED does need some growing up to do. But thats okay he will learn soon enough. Especially having mentors like Burroughs, and Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk21 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Apparently he wasn't close to weight... Which is pathetic... Biggest/last event of his HS career and he blows weight bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Red has nothing to prove, you are right. However when you accept an invitation to a prestigious event you make a commitment to also make the weight. The committee paid for his hotel, a FLIGHT, meals, event activities, and gear for him to wrestle. In total he probably received around $750 in perks to wrestle. Then when you show up 9lbs over weight and don't attempt to make it there is a big issue. To compound it we as a state were there and it made not only Red look bad, but our whole state. It was NOT a fun conversation with the committee, nor was it in my itinerary for the weekend. To put it rather bluntly it was an extremely embarrassing situation to be a part of and there is no other way to put it. bidfarewell, Sig40, TheNextDynasty and 16 others 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Also FLO and other news outlets had been advertising this match up for months. I bet that conversation was horrible and embarrassing. frigginhurts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigginhurts Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Pretty solid rumor is that Red Sr. Proposed meeting at 140 earlier in the week and was rebuffed by Pletcher's camp. So, Pletcher could've had the match if he really wanted it. Doesn't erase Red's weight issue, but makes it clear that Pletcher could've tried for revenge if he really wanted to do so. yea...thats what i would have wanted to do...wrestle Red and let him have extra weight and not have to cut. Brilliant! Red has nothing to prove, you are right. However when you accept an invitation to a prestigious event you make a commitment to also make the weight. The committee paid for his hotel, a FLIGHT, meals, event activities, and gear for him to wrestle. In total he probably received around $750 in perks to wrestle. Then when you show up 9lbs over weight and don't attempt to make it there is a big issue. To compound it we as a state were there and it made not only Red look bad, but our whole state. It was NOT a fun conversation with the committee, nor was it in my itinerary for the weekend. To put it rather bluntly it was an extremely embarrassing situation to be a part of and there is no other way to put it. I think this sums it up best. I know CJ will pull it together in college but he made a mistake here. Lets just hope he learns from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Red dont have to prove himself to you people anymore. To see you people bash so much to this man is sickening seeing that he is from our state. He has won 4 state titles. Won numorous of national events. Been ranked #1 in the country 2 years straight and not to mention has BEATEN pletcher twice. You people show so much hate to someone that does nothing but made our state look good. Now dont get me wrong RED does need some growing up to do. But thats okay he will learn soon enough. Especially having mentors like Burroughs, and Green. It's not about "proof" of anything. you accept the match and all the comp stuff, flight, hotel, food, gear... and put your teammates and entire group in a very embarrassing situation. It wouldn't seem to be how a "#1" rolls. And to even mention "hate"... well... whatever Edited March 27, 2016 by MCKAJC bidfarewell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 yea...thats what i would have wanted to do...wrestle Red and let him have extra weight and not have to cut. Brilliant! I think this sums it up best. I know CJ will pull it together in college but he made a mistake here. Lets just hope he learns from it. I agree that Y2 wrote a great piece on this. In the other hand, I'm not sure how you know Red will change for college. He has progressively gotten worse in the last couple years. We can agree though that hopefully he'll straighten up. I honestly don't expect to see big things of him at the collegiate level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth34 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 New Pal job is open. Does that mean Red Sr is following him to Nebraska? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matking26 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) was there anywhere he could work out to lose the weight, and was he the only one with a weight issue? Edited March 27, 2016 by Matking26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangarrray Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) I wouldn't be surprised if the committee put a clause in their future invitations that if you accept the invitation to participate then you are committing to making weight and taking part in all the activities and if you don't make the weight and participate in all activities then you will be held responsible for all expenses that the committee had put out for the invitee. What an embarrassment for our state. I could see if there was an injury but when you are that much over weight, why even make the trip? Make a phone call so they can let someone else participate. It seems if he was thinking that he would be given a pass. I guess he thought wrong. Time to grow up and be accountable for your own actions. Edited March 27, 2016 by tangarrray bidfarewell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 was there anywhere he could work out to lose the weight, and was he the only one with a weight issue? Yes they had a practice and there was a really nice fitness area at the hotel. He was given until even Saturday to make weight and he declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Yes they had a practice and there was a really nice fitness area at the hotel. He was given until even Saturday to make weight and he declined.I've seen from other post that his dad was upset that Pletcher dropped down to wrestle Red. Not sure how true this is, an if it is the case along with refusing to work out to make weight, Red just took the FREE trip knowing he wasn't going to wrestle. Very disappointing never the less. On a positive note though, kudos to Doster for stepping up knowing he's taking on one of the best in the nation(who's now pissed). Just to clarify, the other post I was talking about, said the same thing as Y2 in regards to Red refusing to work out. Bulldog89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matking26 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Again yes chad should of made weight. He is 100% in the wrong for that, but the point im trying to make is you people seriously have been on here since he beat nick talking down on him. I just find it kind of pathetic but hey what do i know. bigmikesr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novice Bat Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just saying, there would not be a thread with 44 replies if any of the other Team Indiana members missed weight. gogoplata89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just saying, there would not be a thread with 44 replies if any of the other Team Indiana members missed weight. of course there would. But I'd be surprised if any wrestler invited to this event in it's history has missed weight. 1prouddad and IU89 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Just saying, there would not be a thread with 44 replies if any of the other Team Indiana members missed weight. Congrats on being part of it now. I'll agree with MC, as prestigious and possibly a once in a life time opportunity, I couldn't see one not making weight. I'm sure there were several seniors out there like Rudy Yates, Taylor Lamont, Phillippi, etc that would have loved this opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Again yes chad should of made weight. He is 100% in the wrong for that, but the point im trying to make is you people seriously have been on here since he beat nick talking down on him. I just find it kind of pathetic but hey what do i know. Just saying, there would not be a thread with 44 replies if any of the other Team Indiana members missed weight. He was in the main event and was one of the feature bouts. Flo had touted his match in their graphics and the program back cover was a shot of Red and Pletcher. When the #1 wrestler in the nation misses weight at a big event it is big news and it does not shed a good light on Indiana. The bigger deal was that Indiana was there for the preliminary match and the coaches and wrestlers had to field questions and deal with the Red incident throughout the weekend. frigginhurts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novice Bat Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I understand that him missing weight embarrassed the state, and was wrong on several occasions, but I also sense that this thread contains some posts with underlying emotions, probably still to do with him beating Nick and his celebration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 He was in the main event and was one of the feature bouts. Flo had touted his match in their graphics and the program back cover was a shot of Red and Pletcher. When the #1 wrestler in the nation misses weight at a big event it is big news and it does not shed a good light on Indiana. The bigger deal was that Indiana was there for the preliminary match and the coaches and wrestlers had to field questions and deal with the Red incident throughout the weekend. Where was Red for all of this? I know it had to take away a little of your excitement for the Indiana boys, but by reading some of your other posts, I'm glad it didn't take away too much. Kudos to you and the crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Big Un Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I understand that him missing weight embarrassed the state, and was wrong on several occasions, but I also sense that this thread contains some posts with underlying emotions, probably still to do with him beating Nick and his celebration. There is lots of underlying stuff So what's the deal with red sr.? Is he coaching at Nebraska ? Wouldn't surprise me At the state final when he posed in front of the camera it was great. #excitment&comeday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loscoz Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I guess that with his dad trying to get the match to be 140 match he is enabling the young man a very sad situation. It's a bad representation of our state and future wrestlers. There's a saying a saying," 1000 good jobs can be erased with one awe ***potty mouth***"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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