Rav67 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Don't make the same mistake I made thinking there's no chance a certain wrestler can win. There's no chance Daniel Gunsett will win... I'll bet you my soul for your wallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 ...And this one is Brownsburg's to lose. Mills, Weaver, and Mulkey all could very well place top 4 at the first 3 weight classes alone, Lee is the favorite at 138, and Damler has a good shot at squeezing his way to the semi finals. Walton got probably the toughest draw out of any semi state champion in the whole tournament honestly(Goering, then Gray, then Hughes), but just so long as he places I like the team's chances. I agree. They were extremely impressive last Saturday. 6 champs, one 2nd & one 3rd. I see them getting 7 through to Saturday & possibly all 8 - McCormick has a tough Friday night match. You are correct about Walton having a murderers row of a draw, but after seeing him in Evansville I believe he is up to the task to at least make the semi's. I wouldn't even be shocked to see him upset Hughes & take this weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwise Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) I agree. They were extremely impressive last Saturday. 6 champs, one 2nd & one 3rd. I see them getting 7 through to Saturday & possibly all 8 - McCormick has a tough Friday night match. You are correct about Walton having a murderers row of a draw, but after seeing him in Evansville I believe he is up to the task to at least make the semi's. I wouldn't even be shocked to see him upset Hughes & take this weight. Didn't Brownsburg advance 7? I thought Warren had the most with 8. Also, Hughes is a lock. NO ONE is beating him! Edited February 17, 2016 by dwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMILL Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 6 champs and a runner up................no 3rd place as stated above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sack Of Potatoes Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Team Race: The most prestigious award of them all, the team state championship, desired by all teams, but only claimed by one. This year’s team race is as close as it can get. IMO there are three teams with a horse in the race. The bull dogs of Brownsburg, the Kingsmen of Penn and the Warriors of Warren Central. Break down of teams: Brownsburg: 7 wrestlers Predicted places: 106: 1st 113: 3rd 120: 3rd 138 1st 170 3rd 182: 4th 195: NP Penn: 7 Wrestlers Predicted places: 106: 2cd 113: 6th 120: 1st 152: 2cd 160: 4th 195: NP 220: 1st Warren Central: 8 wrestlers 106: 3rd 113: 5th 120: 7th 126: 5th 138: 3rd 152: 4th 170: NP 195: 2cd Possible Key Matches (based off of MY predicted Places) 106: ALL 3 TEAMS HAVE A WRESTLER Mills(BB) Vs Murphy(WC)- Semis Mills(BB) Vs. Cavanaugh(Penn) Finals 113: ALL 3 TEAMS HAVE A WRESTLER Turner(WC) Vs. Slates(Penn) 5th/6th place match 120: All 3 TEAMS HAVE WRESTLERS Hildebrant(Penn) Vs. Mullkey(WC)- Finals 138: McKinney (WC) Vs. Lee(BB)- Finals 152: Pruitt (WC) Vs. Prentice(Penn)- Semis The final team scores will ultimately come down to the team that peaks and has the wrestlers with the most heart. This Saturday which ever team can do that will be the champion. Good luck to all teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 No Portage Indians? dwise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sack Of Potatoes Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 No Portage Indians? For the Indians of Portage: 7 wrestlers 113: 8th 126: 3rd 132: Np 145: 7th 152: 1st 170: 4th 285: NP Always a chance here as a dark horse, but I just don't believe they will have enough fire power to take home a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwise Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 2 of Cavanaugh's losses are to Fair this year and they see each other in the quarters and I think Fair wins again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 My bad, you guys are correct. Brownsburg has 7. I was giving them credit for Molloy of Danville. So I see them getting their 6 SS champs through to Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) For the Indians of Portage: 7 wrestlers 113: 8th 126: 3rd 132: Np 145: 7th 152: 1st 170: 4th 285: NP Always a chance here as a dark horse, but I just don't believe they will have enough fire power to take home a title. 285 has a win over mammolenti at al smith. Torres is 1-1 with Bailey this year. I think they will be in the mix also Edited February 17, 2016 by ontherise219 backtothemat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I would say anyone with a brain would say the true team championship was already battled for ontherise219, decbell1, dwise and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfan Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Bailey has only wrestled Torres one time this year and beat him. Edited February 17, 2016 by irishfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggin89 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I believe he was speaking about IHPO as the second time. ontherise219 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Bailey has only wrestled Torres one time this year and beat him. The Ihpo Torres won in OT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpt189 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Who is Bailey's loss to then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Out of state to a Ohio kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I would say anyone with a brain would say the true team championship was already battled for But I'm betting you wouldn't mind adding the Coaches Trophy. It sure would put a stamp on the "best team" bragging rights. Like in college, there is the National Duels but the National Team Title is crowned in the NCAA Tournament. It may not be the best/right way to do it, but that is how it is. Speaking of the National Duels, I for one don't like what they've done with it this year. How does Iowa have no shot at it? Turrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Who is Bailey's loss to then?Kid from Ohio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBlackLine Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) I think Cathedral gets all 6 through Friday night. Them & Portage are for sure the dark horses, Warren got bad draws, Penn I think isn't a huge factor (especially since Woods won't beat Parris), it's Brownsburg's to lose. But ah, we left out good ol Mater Dei w/ 3 potential state champs...I'll bet you Woods beats Parris should they meet. Loser makes a donation to the winner's school/organization/booster club of choice? Name your stakes. We can have one of the site mods hold it in escrow to ensure the loser pays and the winner gets their stake back. All the hype and predictions surrounding 220 remind me of one of the best scenes in one of the best television series... "You want it to be one way... but it's the other way." Edited February 17, 2016 by LongBlackLine ontherise219 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 But I'm betting you wouldn't mind adding the Coaches Trophy. It sure would put a stamp on the "best team" bragging rights. Like in college, there is the National Duels but the National Team Title is crowned in the NCAA Tournament. It may not be the best/right way to do it, but that is how it is. Speaking of the National Duels, I for one don't like what they've done with it this year. How does Iowa have no shot at it? Turrible! Best team should be My 14 kids vs your 14 kids not can the Bellmont kid beat the warren kid Friday night..it is what it is but anyone who believes it's the "true" title is lying to themselves munges, frigginhurts, Justin Ratliff and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I would say anyone with a brain would say the true team championship was already battled for What he said Justin Ratliff and sudden death 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 2 of Cavanaugh's losses are to Fair this year and they see each other in the quarters and I think Fair wins again... 3rd times a charm , I'll take Cavanaugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils27 Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 Best team should be My 14 kids vs your 14 kids not can the Bellmont kid beat the warren kid Friday night..it is what it is but anyone who believes it's the "true" title is lying to themselves You're missing the point of the state finals with your comment. Instead of having two weeks of tournaments you have one crazy weekend where everything is on the line. Where a team with no individual state champs can still be in the hunt for a team title. Everyone has a bias though. You probably won the team title via dual and others via the individual tourney as a team. It's no biggie but this argument has no place two days before the championship. Maybe we'll pick it up next week. Good luck everyone. RDP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIACfan Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Best team should be My 14 kids vs your 14 kids not can the Bellmont kid beat the warren kid Friday night..it is what it is but anyone who believes it's the "true" title is lying to themselves Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. But surely you do have aspirations of winning the coaches trophy? And I'm not trying to insinuate that if Brownsburg does not win the Coaches Trophy that it in any way diminishes the Team Dual Title. Lastly, I took the opportunity to address the changes that were made with the college National Duals. I think it was a bad idea & low & behold in the first year of this new format they have Penn State & Iowa both undefeated & ranked 1 & 2, and yet they will not be deciding the title on the mat against each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. But surely you do have aspirations of winning the coaches trophy? And I'm not trying to insinuate that if Brownsburg does not win the Coaches Trophy that it in any way diminishes the Team Dual Title. Lastly, I took the opportunity to address the changes that were made with the college National Duals. I think it was a bad idea & low & behold in the first year of this new format they have Penn State & Iowa both undefeated & ranked 1 & 2, and yet they will not be deciding the title on the mat against each other. Umm the trophy won this weekend isn't the coaches trophy, it's the OFFICIAL IHSAA trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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