M109R Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Your line of reasoning is just so far off its hard to take it seriously. You are putting the cart before the horse. Teams aren't good because of the number of ranked guys they have. They get ranked because they're good and over the course of a season, every decent team has a chance to prove that. You ridiculed the committee for their work and yet you still don't get it. If you want to find out how good a team is for a dual, write down all 14 guys. Look at their record. Look at their schedule. Look at what their record was last year. Look at where they placed in state tournament last year. I can honestly say that we seeded all of 3A and we didn't spend one second on the rankings page, because that's not how dual meets work, especially when you're looking at rankings three weeks into the season Well aware of how it works , been around wrestling for 40 years . If rankings do not matter why do the two best teams in the state have the most ranked wrestlers ? And asking a question is somehow ridiculing the committee ???? Why do guys that do ranking's or seeding's get all bent out of shape when people ask questions ? If said guys explain why they did what they did , most people will be good with it . The reason guys are ranked is because of what they did last year , this years record , schedule etc. If team A has 10 state ranked guys and team B has 2 state ranked guys , I don't need to compare all 14 weight classes , because team A will win 100% of the time . There is a reason team A has 10 ranked . Bruins2013 and ontherise219 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 For 40 years you sure seem to not be thinking this all the way through why do we wrestle the meets then? Because teams like EMd always pull some Winzapfl(sp) or Wildeman outta nowhere and get big wins and pull off upsets so just because team a has 10 ranked kids does not 100% mean team a will win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) For 40 years you sure seem to not be thinking this all the way through why do we wrestle the meets then? Because teams like EMd always pull some Winzapfl(sp) or Wildeman outta nowhere and get big wins and pull off upsets so just because team a has 10 ranked kids does not 100% mean team a will win Read my post Fabio I said a team with 2 ranked against a team with 10 ranked . When was the last time a MD team had only 2 ranked wrestlers . Look through the rankings and find me a team that has 2 ranked wrestlers , then tell me they have a realistic shot at beating Brownsburg or Warren this year . And if Rankings don't mean anything , why was your prediction that OPRF drops the hammer on Penn . Why do we need to wrestle then? Edited January 8, 2016 by M109R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Lol you still don't get it Brownsburg had the same team two weeks ago that they have now, no matter who was ranked. It has nothing to do w rankings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShirt Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Didn't realize the Brownsburg feeder system was so strong. Hard to build such a good dual meet team so fast without transfers. Fabio Jr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Didn't realize the Brownsburg feeder system was so strong. Hard to build such a good dual meet team so fast without transfers. #trollinghard Edited January 8, 2016 by UncleJimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Didn't realize the Brownsburg feeder system was so strong. Hard to build such a good dual meet team so fast without transfers. 1st off... Name em all 2nd off...we have placed top 4 in the last 3 elementary duals since we came and have a shot to win again this weekend so yeah I'd say we have a pretty decent feeder syetem... randalllynch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrick Snyder Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Dave...I mean RedShirt don't hide behind a screen name. We have a pretty good feeder system, but I think you are just looking to talk trash behind a screen name. Feel free to ask away. Darrick Snyder Edited January 8, 2016 by Darrick Snyder asbury4040 and brickfor6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrick Snyder Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Dave/Redshirt, We won state in 2008 at Mishawaka and had transfers. Like most top programs in any sport in the entire state. As a review here are the credentials of the Mishawaka 2010 team that I always heard you talk trash to other people about: Team State Champions Won Individual State as a Team 10 State Qualifiers 9 State Placers #13 in the Country Here is our Mishawaka 2010 Lineup - 13 our of 14 of these guys were born and raised in Mishawaka and in our program. Our ONLY transfer was Ryan Stahl...feel free to research and check the facts. 103 – Grant Martsolf 112 – Paul Beck 119 – Layten Binion 125 – Taylor Wisler 130 – Nick Schrader 135 – Matt Guerra 140 – Anthony Eddy 145 – Darius Marshall 152 – Ryan Stahl 160 – Alex White 171 – Richard Morin 189 – Danny Abu-Shebab 215 – Christian Lentz HWT – Travis Thomas Brownsburg Lineup This Year: 106- Ty Mill - Transfer 113 - Nick Weaver - Sectional Qualifier when we got here. 120 - Blake Mulkey - good Middle School Wrestler, but did no off-season 126 - Ryan Bigelow- ran bulldogs only in middle school ...wasn't going to wrestle...I talked him into it. 132 - Connor Allen - Sectional Qualifier - won around 5 matches the entire year. 138 - Brayton Lee - lives 30 seconds from the high school, but no one believed he was staying 145 -Troy Owen - .500 JV Wrestler 152 - Quienton Ingram - won a few matches on JV maybe 160 - Arkee Glover - .500 JV Wrestler 170 - Nathan Walton - transfer 182 - CJ Damler - Semi-State 195 - Isaac McCormick - good 8th grader who had never done anything during the off-season 220 - Reilly Peterson - he was awful in 7th grade. HWT - Rickie Clark - .500 JV Wrestler Sign your name. Darrick Snyder JMILL, Anthony Snyder and Matdad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Are they considered transfers if they never went to another high school? JMILL and AJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Amen Coach Snyder about signing your name! That's almost as bad as accusing a rival school's coaches of improprieties via email that you wrote in word doc(which is traceable), but having someone else(like someone you went to college with) send it on to the IHSAA and have them sign their name to the email. A. Housand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrick Snyder Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Again, love that you didn't sign your name but talk trash. I did okay in college and understand how the world works and what is traceable...Housand was the best man in my wedding. How hard would it be to figure that out? I think you are very gullible. Thanks for making me laugh. It has been a good day:) Say hello some time. Darrick Snyder Edited January 8, 2016 by Darrick Snyder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGSTON Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Amen Coach Snyder about signing your name! That's almost as bad as accusing a rival school's coaches of improprieties via email that you wrote in word doc(which is traceable), but having someone else(like someone you went to college with) send it on to the IHSAA and have them sign their name to the email. A. Housand What ? No way ? Not That guy ? Get outta here! Can't Be ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMILL Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) johnny d-bag what you are doing on this site is not the intent of this site. Its for discussion and information not for un-found accusations by someone who is not even proud enough of their stance to sign their own name. If you have something to talk to Coach Snyder about I am certain he would be more than happy to sit down with you after he finishes at the Champion factory and before he goes to bed at 9p at night so feel free to contact him personally and make this attempt otherwise remove you chicken crap self from this conversation and from making un-found allegations. Feel free to contact me also as I list my phone number at the bottom of every post I make with my name listed. Edited January 8, 2016 by JMILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 johnny d-bag what you are doing on this site is not the intent of this site. Its for discussion and information not for un-found accusations by someone who is not even proud enough of their stance to sign their own name. If you have something to talk to Coach Snyder about I am certain he would be more than happy to sit down with you after he finishes at the Champion factory and before he goes to bed at 9p at night so feel free to contact him personally and make this attempt otherwise remove you chicken crap self from this conversation and from making un-found allegations. Feel free to contact me also as I list my phone number at the bottom of every post I make with my name listed. Dude, you forgot something..#PainTrain...you're welcome! I can see the veins popping outta your forehead. Relax, Snyder seems to have this. Anyway, the #PainTrain seems to be fueled by hate (Miami Hurricanes of IN wrestling..discuss), so not going there as they seem to have enough to thrive on #Congrats on #TeamState. I commend the coach for shutting down a #hater with a #micdrop even before any other posts were entered! I wonder how many other top program coaches would be so quick to post a list of their transfers?? So #Kudos. KINGSTON, takedownartist and JMILL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam285adam Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Amen Coach Snyder about signing your name! That's almost as bad as accusing a rival school's coaches of improprieties via email that you wrote in word doc(which is traceable), but having someone else(like someone you went to college with) send it on to the IHSAA and have them sign their name to the email. A. Housand Talk is cheap let results do the talking. O wait they already did! #onlytook3years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Snyder Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 #PIPEBOMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLane Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Sorry it double posted Edited January 10, 2016 by DLane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLane Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Can't really consider these transfers students for Brownsburg. They never attended any other High School before going to Brownsburg HS. Ty Mills was a Danville MS kid, Nathan Walton was a Tri-West MS kid and I believe Brayton Lee was in a private school for MS. But Lee and Walton were always a Brownsburg club kids forever. And all 3 are Hendricks Cty kids. Which this seems to be very common in Hendricks Cty. Kids attend different middle schools then go to a different High Schools. I will not name names but I do know..... Not just for wrestling but other sports too Cascade MS to Danville, Plainfield HS Danville MS to Brownsburg HS and Avon HS Avon MS to Danville HS TriWest MS to Danville, Brownsburg, Avon HS Plainfield MS to Avon, Cascade HS Edited January 10, 2016 by DLane teammills and DLane 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGoatGrappler Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 . . . 126 - Ryan Bigelow- ran bulldogs only in middle school ...wasn't going to wrestle...I talked him into it. . . . Darrick Snyder Redacted and added emphasis to show the most important part of this entire thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teammills Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Can't really consider these transfers students for Brownsburg. They never attended any other High School before going to Brownsburg HS. Ty Mills was a Danville MS kid, Nathan Walton was a Tri-West MS kid and I believe Brayton Lee was in a private school for MS. But Lee and Walton were always a Brownsburg club kids forever. And all 3 are Hendricks Cty kids. Which this seems to be very common in Hendricks Cty. Kids attend different middle schools then go to a different High Schools. I will not name names but I do know..... Not just for wrestling but other sports too Cascade MS to Danville, Plainfield HS Danville MS to Brownsburg HS and Avon HS Avon MS to Danville HS TriWest MS to Danville, Brownsburg, Avon HS Plainfield MS to Avon, Cascade HS You forgot one... Avon MS to Brandon HS, FL! DLane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyb Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) You forgot one... Avon MS to Brandon HS, FL! No doubt! That's crap!Congrats to the Lanes. Trey Lane is currently the number one ranked 106 pounder in Florida 2A. The #younggunz could have used him! Edited January 10, 2016 by Mattyb TeamGarcia and DLane 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatHoundzz Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Dave/Redshirt, We won state in 2008 at Mishawaka and had transfers. Like most top programs in any sport in the entire state. As a review here are the credentials of the Mishawaka 2010 team that I always heard you talk trash to other people about: Team State Champions Won Individual State as a Team 10 State Qualifiers 9 State Placers #13 in the Country Here is our Mishawaka 2010 Lineup - 13 our of 14 of these guys were born and raised in Mishawaka and in our program. Our ONLY transfer was Ryan Stahl...feel free to research and check the facts. 103 – Grant Martsolf 112 – Paul Beck 119 – Layten Binion 125 – Taylor Wisler 130 – Nick Schrader 135 – Matt Guerra 140 – Anthony Eddy 145 – Darius Marshall 152 – Ryan Stahl 160 – Alex White 171 – Richard Morin 189 – Danny Abu-Shebab 215 – Christian Lentz HWT – Travis Thomas Brownsburg Lineup This Year: 106- Ty Mill - Transfer 113 - Nick Weaver - Sectional Qualifier when we got here. 120 - Blake Mulkey - good Middle School Wrestler, but did no off-season 126 - Ryan Bigelow- ran bulldogs only in middle school ...wasn't going to wrestle...I talked him into it. 132 - Connor Allen - Sectional Qualifier - won around 5 matches the entire year. 138 - Brayton Lee - lives 30 seconds from the high school, but no one believed he was staying 145 -Troy Owen - .500 JV Wrestler 152 - Quienton Ingram - won a few matches on JV maybe 160 - Arkee Glover - .500 JV Wrestler 170 - Nathan Walton - transfer 182 - CJ Damler - Semi-State 195 - Isaac McCormick - good 8th grader who had never done anything during the off-season 220 - Reilly Peterson - he was awful in 7th grade. HWT - Rickie Clark - .500 JV Wrestler Sign your name. Darrick Snyder Coach Snyder, I have been following wrestling for many years and am very impressed with the program you and your staff have put together! This is my first time posting after years of following this board. I felt it was time to comment after the dirty comments directed towards you and your program. I've attended a few matches and have been impressed with the youth and maturity of your team. I was most impressed with your wrestlers during the Carmel meet. All of your sophomores dominated and gave our wrestlers fits. I can't remember the name of your 126lb freshman but was very impressed with him. He gave our Eric Hiestand an amazing overtime match and had a possible pin if not for a injury timeout. Braylon Lee, Nathan Walton, Blake Mulkey, Isaac McCormack, Tyler Mills, and your freshman are very very impressive(I apologize for missing a few names). This team is very deep especially in the sophomore class and freshman class and will only get better. Not sure who these idiots are who are posting these negative comments about you and your program but should be banned. Never have I seen a "'TEAM" more deserving of a state championship then the Brownsburg Bulldogs. Great Ambassadors of Indiana Wrestling. Good luck on the rest of the season and bring home the IHSAA title, unless you are going against Carmel Best wishes and remember "they're jealous because you have something they dont!" Keep the #paintrain full speed ahead! Alan Bolin Edited January 10, 2016 by MatHoundzz warsawwrestling, teammills, JMILL and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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