Loki27 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Ranked wrestlers rarely tell how deep a team is. Cathedral with their 7 ranked wrestlers lost to Lawrence North with only 3 ranked wrestlers in a dual meet. Carroll just had three first year starters place at the Al Smith this week. And they also only lost to Lawrence North by 3 points earlier in the season. Might want to look past just ranked wrestlers as Cathedral's other 7 went 7-16 at the Mooresville tournament...that's an average of 1-2 for each kid. Lol ok good thing Penn and Perry drew Cathedral instead of Carrol cus Penn and Perry aren't very deep. Lol. My point was whomever wins C flight is unquestionably going to have to wrestle tougher competition top to bottom than D flight. Is that even in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtime Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 FWC found theirselves in the easiest bracket again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Collusion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Lol ok good thing Penn and Perry drew Cathedral instead of Carrol cus Penn and Perry aren't very deep. Lol. My point was whomever wins C flight is unquestionably going to have to wrestle tougher competition top to bottom than D flight. Is that even in question. You probably should just crown whoever wins the C pool the champion because obviously they will be the best team. No other team will face any type of competition in their pools. The three best teams there are definitely Penn, Perry Meridian, and Cathedral. How can anyone see that with 7 ranked guys a team isn't the best in the state is absolutely sickening. FWC found theirselves in the easiest bracket again this year. Thanks for the jab, we were seeded 5th and placed 6th last year losing to #7 seed Avon. hook and half 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoberlin Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Bunch of whiners. For any coaches or parents on here complaining I hope the attitude doesn't trickle down to the kids. I thought wrestling was about overcoming adversity. Suck it up and shut it. IU89 and backtothemat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 You probably should just crown whoever wins the C pool the champion because obviously they will be the best team. No other team will face any type of competition in their pools. The three best teams there are definitely Penn, Perry Meridian, and Cathedral. How can anyone see that with 7 ranked guys a team isn't the best in the state is absolutely sickening. Thanks for the jab, we were seeded 5th and placed 6th last year losing to #7 seed Don't think anyone said the C-pool winner is the best team in the state , Have they? Where do you come up with this crap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Where is the talk of Mater Dei having a chance to win? Will they have Egli? Can they beat portage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Don't think anyone said the C-pool winner is the best team in the state , Have they? Where do you come up with this crap? The way everyone is talking up Cathedral they are the best team in the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 The way everyone is talking up Cathedral they are the best team in the state. With all of the ranked wrestlers how could they not be? DUH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Seymour Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 #Trampoline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 The way everyone is talking up Cathedral they are the best team in the state. Once again , saying a team is better than people think(With the current lineup) is somehow in your little mind saying they are the best team in the state ????? Can we at least agree that Portage is a very good wrestling team ? The Portage vs Cathedral dual (with Cathedrals current lineup) was very close . This would tell me that Cathedral (with it's current lineup) is a pretty good team as well . I believe at this point Warren Central is the best team in the state , I don't see where anyone has said they believe another school is better than Warren . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Lawrence North beat Cathedral by a wider margin than Portage and everyone believes that Lawrence North is a pushover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Everyone who is there is pretty tough. What it will come down to is who can get the bonus points. With the rankings a lot of theses teams have tons of guys on the watchlist. The thing with cathedral is the guys who aren't ranked only Najem is on the watchlist. there are not any easy matches LN and Carroll are both well coached so BB will have their hand full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 The draw isn't changing now. These teams are coming to compete and looking for the best matches. warsawwrestling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Darrick has his hands full correcting my "coaching" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Lol sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Hungus will be attending this year so I should be figure things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Pool A #1 Warren Central #12 Avon #13 Jennings County Pool B #4 Evansville Mater Dei #5 Portage Hamilton Southeastern Pool C #3 Perry Meridian #6 Penn #14 Cathedral Pool D #2 Brownsburg #11 Lawrence North #16 Carroll How come the powers that be did not use the IndianaMat team rankings dated December 14? I'm not trying to stir anything up...simply curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBlackLine Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 The way everyone is talking up Cathedral they are the best team in the state probably better than they're seeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) How come the powers that be did not use the IndianaMat team rankings dated December 14? I'm not trying to stir anything up...simply curious I'd say because it's IHSWCA event and not an IndianaMat event. While I'm sure they took into consideration the info that went into the IndianaMat rankings, the seeding committee didn't just rely on those rankings. Plus, the seeding committee, to the best of their ability, tried to analyze the teams up to date lineups and how that would effect head to head matchups against the rest of the field. I'd say those recent evaluations would have change what the IndianaMat rankings may have been since 12/14 too. Obviously, the new post event IndianaMat rankings would reflect the results of these matches. Edited January 1, 2016 by MattM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtime Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Pool C just has 3 teams that can all claim each team is under seeded. No other bracket can do that. And there was no jab Y2. It's just the truth. FWC found itself in the easiest bracket again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 The way everyone is talking up Cathedral they are the best team in the state probably better than they're seeding. That's cute, but any team can claim they are underseeded. Maybe Carroll is better since they lost to Lawrence North by 3 points without a returning state qualifier. Maybe Jennings County is better, but without any significant results they weren't seeded. Maybe HSE had a bad night against Zionsville which really hurt their chances at a seed. It is funny how people fail to comprehend that Lawrence North and Avon both defeated Cathedral in duals this season. Pool C just has 3 teams that can all claim each team is under seeded. No other bracket can do that. And there was no jab Y2. It's just the truth. FWC found itself in the easiest bracket again this year. Actually Pool A with Mater Dei, Westfield, and New Palestine was the worst pool. Westfield lost in their consolation bout and New Palestine finish 8th. On top of that Carmel was better than Westfield last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtothemat Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Where is the talk of Mater Dei having a chance to win? Will they have Egli? Can they beat portage? I think Mater Dei beats Portage without Will Egli and Nick Lee. They will need 106 Clay Egli, who did not wrestle at the MD classic, though. 30-25 MD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtothemat Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Pool A #1 Warren Central #12 Avon #13 Jennings County Pool B #4 Evansville Mater Dei #5 Portage Hamilton Southeastern Pool C #3 Perry Meridian #6 Penn #14 Cathedral Pool D #2 Brownsburg #11 Lawrence North #16 Carroll The committee did a great job putting these pools together. The only possible change would be Penn #5 and Portage #6, because I think Penn is the better team and would have a better chance to beat MD. But that's it. No other teams have a chance in beating the top 4 seeds other then Portage and Penn. I think the committee's goal is to have the top 4 seeds are left standing going into the semis and I think they get their wish. Great job again. Good luck BBurg and Warren in the finals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCard Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Well, when it is all said and done, the matches still have to be wrestled out on the mat. Whether you feel shunned, over-seeded or under-seeded, I am sure none of the boys will care once they start wrestling in what will be a great atmosphere for competetion. Let's appreciate what we have here and enjoy the great wrestling that will occur today! Good luck to all those who are participating and thank you to everyone for having put forth their time and effort into making this event possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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