Y2CJ41 Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 Harper's Army circling the wagons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAT36 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Regardless of everyone's opinion, we'll find out on Saturday ! Now that we have the seeds & match-ups we can look at some great possible matches. This is 3A only. Round 1 Pool A - Warren Central vs. Jennings County 152 - #4 Trent Pruitt WC vs. #9 Andrew Herrin JC 195 - #1 Tristen Tonte WC vs. #10 Christian Redmond JC 285 - #4 Brendon Sutton JC vs. #5 Jasion Brogan WC Pool B - Evansville Mater Dei vs. Hamilton Southeastern 182 - #12 Spencer Irick HSE vs. #13 Seth Orth MD Pool C - Perry Meridian vs. Indianapolis Cathedral 106 - #2 Sam Fair PM vs. #13 Lukasz Walendzak Cathedral 113 - #6 Sunny Nier PM vs. #9 Jordan Slivka Cathedral 132 - #3 Zack Melloh Cathedral vs. #8 DJ Brookbank PM Pool D - Brownburg vs. Carroll No ranked match-ups Round 2 Pool A - Warren Central vs. Avon 106 - #1 Keyuan Murphy WC vs. #5 Asa Garcia Avon 152 - #4 Trent Pruitt WC vs. #14 Jacob Clark Avon 285 - #5 Jasion Brogan WC vs. #8 Brett Henson Avon Pool B - Evansville Mater Dei vs. Portage 120 - #5 Kyle Luigs MD vs. #11 Miguel Prado Portage 145 - #1 Joe Lee MD vs. #8 Kasper McIntosh Portage Pool C - Perry Meridian vs. Penn 106 - #2 Sam Fair PM vs. #3 Kory Cavanaugh Penn 113 - #4 Austin Slates Penn vs. #6 Sunny Nier PM 152 - #6 Brett Johnson PM vs. #8 Denzyl Prentice Penn 160 - #3 Jarod Swank Penn vs. #6 Noah Warren PM Pool D - Brownsburg vs. Lawrence North 170 - #2 Nathan Walton BB vs. #9 Ricky Samuels LN 182 - #3 Cameron Jones LN vs. #14 CJ Dalmer BB Round 3 Pool A - Avon vs. Jennings County 152 - #9 Andrew Herrin JC vs. #14 Jacob Clark Avon 220 - #3 Gunnar Larson Avon vs. #13 Brady Shepherd JC 285 - #4 Brendon Sutton JC vs. #8 Brett Henson Avon Pool B - Portage vs. Hamilton Southeastern 126 - #3 Gaige Torres Portage vs. #4 Austin Holmes HSE Pool C - Penn vs. Indianapolis Catherdral 106 - #3 Kory Cavanaugh Penn vs. #13 Lukasz Walendzak Cathedral 113 - #4 Austin Slates Penn vs. #9 Jordan Slivka Cathedral 220 - #1 Kobe Woods Penn vs. #4 Ryan Guhl Cathedral Pool D - Carroll vs. Lawrence North No ranked match-ups As always I am sure I missed a few. There will be quite a few more great match-ups that I did not mention, just went with ranked wrestlers. I am sure there will be some guys bumping for best team results as well. What are some other great match-ups you guys are looking forward to? Edited December 28, 2015 by GAT36 richyy253 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSpectator Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 We could potentially see a Joe Lee vs. Brayton Lee, 1 vs 2, match up if Mater Dei and Brownsburg each make it through there pools. InTheCircle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 How do you define screw job? Putting the 2015 state champions (Penn), and the 2014 state champions (Cathedral), and the 2013 state champions (Perry M.), all in the same pool at team state. Ouch! this is a dual event. at last year's dual meet title meet, perry was second, penn was third and cathedral was 10th. that being said, i'm not sure how last year's finishes are relevant (graduation, skill improvement, weight gain, etc). as far as a screw job, i am willing to wager that perry prefers penn in their bracket rather than portage, md or browsburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtime Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 What was wrong with just having 8 teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 What was wrong with just having 8 teams?Greater chance to leave out a team or two that might be deserving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nieman Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 What's wrong with haVing 12? More good competition won't hurt anyone. Even the unseeded teams are pretty darn good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonster Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I think 12 is a good number, especially with this year. Cathedral may not have made the top 8 and I believe they will cause headaches for Perry and Penn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I think 12 is a good number, especially with this year. Cathedral may not have made the top 8 and I believe they will cause headaches for Perry and Penn. I do not see it. In each dual, cathedral is a favorite in only four matches. Perry and penny are both "big match" teams. It would take a monster effort and some breaks for ic to come close to either club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAT36 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Perry & Penn match up well with Cathedral because both teams are strong at 6 & 13. Cathedral has some horses at 26,32,82 (now with Blake's cut), 95, & 220. That's 5 weight classes you could get "6" from. Penn matches up even better with Kobe at 220. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBlackLine Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 this is a dual event. at last year's dual meet title meet, perry was second, penn was third and cathedral was 10th. that being said, i'm not sure how last year's finishes are relevant (graduation, skill improvement, weight gain, etc). as far as a screw job, i am willing to wager that perry prefers penn in their bracket rather than portage, md or browsburg. I think the issue is that there are a few teams that feel they are more deserving of BB's cushy spot. #2-6 may be close, but I feel BB is a lot closer to a 6 than 2, regardless of how short the hairs are that separate them. Harper's Army circling the wagons Well yeah, it'll take a group effort to pull that horseshoe out of Brownsburg's... KINGSTON 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskyproud Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Bottom line>>>>wrestling is decided on the mat. Not by seeds or stats or rankings. You win by how you finish. No luck , no blame, its one wrestler against another. Hard work and dedication always pays off. obeythemay and loscoz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBlackLine Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Bottom line>>>>wrestling is decided on the mat. Not by seeds or stats or rankings. You win by how you finish. No luck , no blame, its one wrestler against another. Hard work and dedication always pays off. Malarkey. If that were the case it'd be a purely blind draw. Literally no organized professional, and most amateur (IN high school athletics being one of the few exceptions and most widely ridiculed all in formats), sports use blind draws for championship contention. Rankings are a factor. Indysportsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki27 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 With the brackets the way they are, here are my predictions: 8. LN 7. JC 6. EMD 5. Penn 4. BB 3. Portage For Perry to win they must win all rubber matches, not give up bonus points, get bonus points and at least one upset. Let's go Falcons, get er done! InTheCircle, rdrodd1 and ontherise219 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskyproud Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 IF YOU ARE RANKED 1ST AND YOU GET BEAT...DOESNT MATTER!!! YOU LOSE. TIRED OF ALL THE BS ABOUT WHO SHOULD OR SHOULDNT BE RANKED, AND WHO USED TO BE GOOD AND ALL THE OTHER CRAP. JUST WIN AND NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM YOU. PROVE IT ON THE MAT, AND LET EVERYONE ELSE YAK ABOUT WHAT COULDA WOULD SHOULDA. JMILL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 IF YOU ARE RANKED 1ST AND YOU GET BEAT...DOESNT MATTER!!! YOU LOSE. TIRED OF ALL THE BS ABOUT WHO SHOULD OR SHOULDNT BE RANKED, AND WHO USED TO BE GOOD AND ALL THE OTHER CRAP. JUST WIN AND NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM YOU. PROVE IT ON THE MAT, AND LET EVERYONE ELSE YAK ABOUT WHAT COULDA WOULD SHOULDA. Caps lock is on . InTheCircle, littlevito, decbell1 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Nieman Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 What's the highest an unseeded team has finished at this event? And have there ever been any teams with higher numbered seeds that have placed much higher than expected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) What's the highest an unseeded team has finished at this event? And have there ever been any teams with higher numbered seeds that have placed much higher than expected? Looking back at the last three years on Track: 2014-15: unseeded teams went 5-24 against seeded teams across the 3 classes. Franklin placed 7th in 3A, with seeded Cathedral falling to tied for 9-10th. Churubusco placed 5th and Central Noble 8th in 1A. 2013-14: 8 team brackets, with 4 seeds and 4 non-seeds. Unseeded teams went 2-12, with S. Putnam getting 3rd out of 8 in 1A with two very tight wins over the 3 and 4 seeds. No other unseeded team won a match against a seed. 2012-13: 8 team brackets, with 4 seeds and 4 non-seeds. Unseeded teams went 4-18 against seeds, with Cass and Prairie Heights upsetting the 3 and 4 seeds to place 3rd and 4th themselves in 1A and Culver Academies getting 4th in 2A. Edited December 29, 2015 by maligned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMILL Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Caps lock is on . he was yelling to get his point across and I LIKE IT !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indysportsfan Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Looking back at the last three years on Track: 2014-15: unseeded teams went 5-24 against seeded teams across the 3 classes. Franklin placed 7th in 3A, with seeded Cathedral falling to tied for 9-10th. Churubusco placed 5th and Central Noble 8th in 1A. 2013-14: 8 team brackets, with 4 seeds and 4 non-seeds. Unseeded teams went 2-12, with S. Putnam getting 3rd out of 8 in 1A with two very tight wins over the 3 and 4 seeds. No other unseeded team won a match against a seed. 2012-13: 8 team brackets, with 4 seeds and 4 non-seeds. Unseeded teams went 4-18 against seeds, with Cass and Prairie Heights upsetting the 3 and 4 seeds to place 3rd and 4th themselves in 1A and Culver Academies getting 4th in 2A. Carry your point forward to the "debate" between Mr. CAPS and others it would appear that seeds may play a part in the order of finish unless the separation between the teams in those 3 years was so wide it was anti-climatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) Carry your point forward to the "debate" between Mr. CAPS and others it would appear that seeds may play a part in the order of finish unless the separation between the teams in those 3 years was so wide it was anti-climatic. What those 3 years tell me is that the seeds have been pretty accurate. Last year, for example: Seeds 1-4 vs. unseeded: 12-0 Seeds 1-4 vs. seeds 5-8: 12-0 Seeds 5-8 vs. unseeded: 12-5 Edited December 29, 2015 by maligned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Williams Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Is there a reason behind not live streaming this event? Increase physical attendance? Protect scouting? I'm just curious, it would be great for ppl unable to attend to still have access. Broadcasting these types of events whether it be Flo, BTN, or ESPN has only helped our sport. loscoz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlaw1981 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 What time does wrestling start and how much are tickets for Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki27 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 What time does wrestling start and how much are tickets for Saturday? 9:00 $15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoberlin Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Well if it matters if there is this much attention about a single class it looks like the new Team State is doing well. Congrats! May the best team win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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