Major Ursula Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) The Summit Athletic Conference has been down recently. We have been averaging less than 2 state placers a year. Can this be the year we buck that trend and have a renaissance? If so then whom? Can anyone dethrone Snider? With Carroll and Homestead joining the action in 2 seasons can the traditional schools raise their level? Edited November 11, 2015 by Major Ursula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 1. Most likely not. 2. Most likely not. 3. Most likely not. The SAC wrestling issues are systemic and have been for 20+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Carroll and Homestead are not a sure thing to join the SAC in two years. The original agreement was that they could join on a sport by sport basis after the two year trial period. Major Ursula 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Ursula Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 1. Most likely not. 2. Most likely not. 3. Most likely not. The SAC wrestling issues are systemic and have been for 20+ years. Thanks for your input Karl can you elaborate? manchwrestlingdad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENoblewrestling Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 The Summit Athletic Conference has been down recently. We have been averaging less than 2 state placers a year. Can this be the year we buck that trend and have a renaissance? If so then whom? Can anyone dethrone Snider? With Carroll and Homestead joining the action in 2 seasons can the traditional schools raise their level? As far as someone defeating Snider, Dwenger is usually a solid team. I'm not sure what they have this year, but I would usually consider them in the mix. They are well coached, and had good numbers last year. Concordia is another team that was on the rise last year. I'm not sure what all they lost, but I would think they would be competitive. Carroll and Homestead are not a sure thing to join the SAC in two years. The original agreement was that they could join on a sport by sport basis after the two year trial period. Do you have any feeling as to if they will join or not? I would assume that it would make the most sense to join, but I am not close to the situation with wrestling, or really the other sports either. Seems like it was a good fit for football though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Thanks for your input Karl can you elaborate? 1. The lack of middle school programs hurts the city schools. 2. Coaching turnover has hurt the city schools. 3. No real club has had much influence and this has hurt the city schools. littlevito and J.G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Ursula Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share Posted December 19, 2015 Congrats to the Concordia Cadets for winning conference duals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Ursula Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 106- Streeter NS 113-Davis WA 120-Robinson BD 126-Courter SN 132- Braun NS 138- Woenker BL or Ochoa Northrop 145- Capps NS 152- Johnson WA 160-Fisher BL 170-Davis CL 182-Nix BD or Ault Northrop 195? 220-Asher CL Hwt-Ault NS NS squeaks out a close one and edges Concordia for the Title Hwt Ault NS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWRedskins13 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) 106- Streeter NS 113-Davis WA 120-Robinson BD 126-Courter SN 132- Braun NS 138- Woenker BL or Ochoa Northrop 145- Capps NS 152- Johnson WA 160-Fisher BL 170-Davis CL 182-Nix BD or Ault Northrop 195? 220-Asher CL Hwt-Ault NS NS squeaks out a close one and edges Concordia for the Title Hwt Ault NS 1 I think we have 220 for skins also 160 is redskins too. whitner at 220 synder at 160 Edited January 12, 2016 by FWRedskins13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.G. Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think we have 220 for skins also 160 is redskins too. whitner at 220 synder at 160 220: Snyder of Wayne defeated Whitner at the S.A.C Duals. They are currently 1-1 against each other this season with Snyder winning the last time they met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWRedskins13 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) true thats why i said i think. Not seeding or anything just my guess. I agree NSHS wins SAC Edited January 12, 2016 by FWRedskins13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Ursula Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 I think we have 220 for skins also 160 is redskins too. whitner at 220 synder at 160 These are my predictions. I've seen them both and I'm still going with my picks. I 220: Snyder of Wayne defeated Whitner at the S.A.C Duals. They are currently 1-1 against each other this season with Snyder winning the last time they met. And Johnson from Northrop beat them both. I believe Asher is undefeated so I'll give him the nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neehog55 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 106 Josh Goheen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENoblewrestling Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Asher lost I n the finals at Whitko to Mishawaka Marian. The Marian kid was legit. Also how did Johnson beat them both if you thought Johnson was undefeated? My bad didn't read it close enough. Johnson beat Northside and Wayne, though you meant NS and CL. My bad. A 2.5 year old kid running around, yelling kills your reading comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruins2013 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 If Aumick Concordia or Nance snider goes 120 either one has a good shot to win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Ursula Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 If Aumick Concordia or Nance snider goes 120 either one has a good shot to win it.Indeed but I have Robinson. The kid did the rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingfan9802 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I think we have 220 for skins also 160 is redskins too. whitner at 220 synder at 160 I think you're forgetting Harris from CL at 160, he beat Snyder at SAC Duels, it was a good match though in OT. He did drop one to Fisher from Luers but was it a fluke? Not sure, but I do know he only lost 4-2 against Berkebile from Frankton who's currently ranked 5th in state at 152 and had 1st takedown on him. I also believe your leaving out Murfield from CL at 138, if he's healthy he could very well see the top of the podium, and I'll agree no one beats Asher at 220, he's strong as an ox and has technique to go along with it. Just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Ursula Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) I think you're forgetting Harris from CL at 160, he beat Snyder at SAC Duels, it was a good match though in OT. He did drop one to Fisher from Luers but was it a fluke? Not sure, but I do know he only lost 4-2 against Berkebile from Frankton who's currently ranked 5th in state at 152 and had 1st takedown on him. I also believe your leaving out Murfield from CL at 138, if he's healthy he could very well see the top of the podium, and I'll agree no one beats Asher at 220, he's strong as an ox and has technique to go along with it. Just my thoughts.. I do not. Ochoa dominated Murfield. Woenker is 2-1 against Ochoa with Ochoa winning their last meeting. There aren't flukes in wrestling. Edited January 14, 2016 by Major Ursula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruins2013 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Don't forget about miller from snider at 152 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Woenker is clearly the best at 138. Asher should dominate at 220 Bruins2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 106-Streeter NS 113-Davis Wa 120-Robinson BD 126-?? 132-Braun NS 138-Woenker BL 145-Capps NS 152-Miller Sn--Johnson Wa 160-Snyder NS 170-Davis CL 182- Ault No 195-?? 220- Asher CL 285- Ault NS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruins2013 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 106-Streeter NS 113-Davis Wa 120-Robinson BD 126-?? 132-Braun NS 138-Woenker BL 145-Capps NS 152-Miller Sn--Johnson Wa 160-Snyder NS 170-Davis CL 182- Ault No 195-?? 220- Asher CL 285- Ault NS Looks like you have north side running away with it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Looks like you have north side running away with it!!!! Not necessarily. 160 is up for grabs (FIsher BL, Harris Con, Snyder Ns), and Braun has not shown any consistency at 132... It will be close between North Side and Concordia. Bruins2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Ursula Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 Don't forget about miller from snider at 152 MajorI'll take Johnson FWwrestling1996 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Ursula Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) Woenker is clearly the best at 138. Asher should dominate at 220Woenker wrestles in my club in the offseason so no one wants him to win as much as I. His dad and have known each other for years and he is my Co-Coach. However I will tell you Ochoa was in my club as well so I have privy to their head to head matches in the room and during the season and I'll give you some info. Woenker is the more seasoned wrestler. Ochoa is less seasoned but he is dangerousis turning the corner and has defeated Woenker and higher seeded wrestlers with better records. Edited January 14, 2016 by Major Ursula Bruins2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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