squeezefan Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Here are your Al Smith champs from December 106 Cummings state champ 113 Hildebrandt runner-up 120 Hudkins didn't wrestle- state champ; Kyle Hatch 7th place 126 Molloy 3rd 132 McKinney lost in ticket rd 138 Cash state champ 145 Covaciu state champ 152 Forte state champ 160 Hughes state champ 170 Mammolenti 5th 182 Osborn state champ 195 Fowler 6th 220 Woods state champ 285 Streck state champ SooperBod, warsawwrestling and NavyGonzo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 That's pretty impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachM Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 If you take 106 from Al smith you have Cummings -champ Rooks- 3rd Tirana- 5th Cavanah - qualifier Demine(sp) 7th Murphy (wc) qualifier not sure why he didn't wrestle was a DNP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils27 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Wow that is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansvilleSpectator Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Wow. Toughest tournament in Indiana by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Bo Davis didn't place at al smith and was 3rd Edited February 23, 2015 by ontherise219 XxFIST2FACExX and nkraus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Bo Davis didn't place at al smith and was 3rd Very interesting weight at 195 at Al Smith: 1. Fowler-Calumet (state 6th) 2. Perry-Merrillville (ss 2nd round loss to Bradley-Mish) 3. Stone-Lawrence Central (ss 2nd round loss to Tonte-PM) 4. Bigbie-Lowell (ss 1st round loss to Hedrick-Portage) 5. Beck-Rochester (ss 2nd round loss to Fowler-Cal) 6. Bradley-Mishawaka (6th at state, beating Beck & Perry at reg & ss) 7. Friedt-Bellmont (state first round loss to Scott-Mooresville) 8. Greiwe-Columbus East (ss 2nd round loss to Lamar-Castle) DNP at Al Smith: Davis-Garrett, loses to Bigbie 2nd round and to Beck in placement round (state 3rd--higher than anyone else on this list) Also DNP at Al Smith 195 lbs: Stewart-Chesterton (ss 1st round), Nolin-Warsaw (ss 2nd round), Mayfield-Lawrence N. (ss 1st round), Backus-Peru (ss 1st round), Rasler-W. Noble (ss 2nd round), Hayes-Jimtown (ss 1st round) Edited February 23, 2015 by maligned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Sounds like a loaded weight class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It think it would be a good idea to open the Al Smith up to some prestigous out of state nationally ranked teams. Due to the quality of the competition, I think this could draw some of the good teams out of IL, OH, MI, WI etc.. Since our travel restrictions dont let our good teams travel, lets bring them here to Indiana. Maybe some of our teams would get more national ranking consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLane Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Plus Brock Hudkins didnt wrestle at Al Smith due to hand injury Nevermind- didnt realize someone already stated this Edited February 23, 2015 by DLane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Any team that we cant travel too is not allowed to compete in state either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It think it would be a good idea to open the Al Smith up to some prestigous out of state nationally ranked teams. Due to the quality of the competition, I think this could draw some of the good teams out of IL, OH, MI, WI etc.. Since our travel restrictions dont let our good teams travel, lets bring them here to Indiana. Maybe some of our teams would get more national ranking consideration. The idea of bringing in out of state teams for the Al Smith has came up before. It was stated then that the organizers wants to keep it as a strong IN based tournament. Also, the travel restrictions are written as a two say street. IN teams can not travel more than a certain distance, nor can they face teams that travel from farther than that distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It was once attempted to add a Wild card for each weight. Kids would apply to get in if their team wasn't in and have a shot to compete but the powers that be axed that idea quickly even though it was explicitly allowed according to the by-laws if I remember correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The idea of bringing in out of state teams for the Al Smith has came up before. It was stated then that the organizers wants to keep it as a strong IN based tournament. Also, the travel restrictions are written as a two say street. IN teams can not travel more than a certain distance, nor can they face teams that travel from farther than that distance. I understand the 400 mile travel rule. But theres some really good teams within 400 miles of Indiana that might want to come to Indiana if they had a good reason to. For example Intermat fab 50 teams that could travel to Ind: Oak Park River Forest (1), St Paris Graham(2), Franklin Regional (7), Southeast Polk (8), St Edward (15), Montini Catholic (16), Apple Valley(17), Carl Sandburg (19), bettendorf, IA (20), Glenbard North (21), Massilon Perry (22), Lowell, Mi (25), Brecksville, OH (26), Delta, OH (30), Cumberland Va, PA (31), Belle Vernon, PA (34), Dayton Christion, Oh (36), Greater Latrobe, PA (38), Elyria, Oh (42), Kaukauna, WI (43), Marmion Academy (44), Brighton, MI (45), St JOhns, MI (47), North Allegany, PA (50). Also, I would say Indiana likes keeping everything Indiana based, so Im not surprised by that statement. Why not try to compete against the best. Where's this Steel Sharpens Steel mentality I hear people talk about on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Isn't it 300 miles? That might shorten your list a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Isn't it 300 miles? That might shorten your list a little. Is it 300? I could be wrong. Probably takes 10 of those teams of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlenewbie Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 But even at 300 you get all of the top rated Illinois teams. It is under 150 miles to Oak Park, Montini, Sandburg, Glenbard North, and Marmion. And almost all of Ohio is within 300 miles of Mishawaka. Would love to see that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Per the IHSAA By-Laws 10-1 Out-of-State Contest Limitations The address of out-of-state schools participating in a contest against a member school as well as the site of such contests must be within 600 miles round trip travel from the Indiana state line and shall be sponsored or co-sponsored by a member high school. 10-4 Mileage Limitation on Team Practices Team practices out-of-state shall not exceed 120 miles round trip from the Indiana state line. Team Travel - Generally Q. 10-1 May an IHSAA member school schedule and play single games with high schools of other states? A. Yes, provided the high schools of these other states are members in good standing in their state high school athletic associations. Round-trip mileage shall not exceed 600 miles from the Indiana state line of each participating school and the interstate contest. (Rules 10-1, 10-1.1) Q. 10-2 May an IHSAA member school play in a basketball, baseball, soccer, softball or volleyball tournament in Kansas? A. No, the contest in Kansas is more than 600 miles round trip from the Indiana state line. (Rule 10-1) Q. 10-3 How far may an athletic team travel out-of-state to play a contest? A. Interstate contests shall not exceed 600 miles round-trip travel from the Indiana state line. (Rule 10-1) Q. 10-4 A member school desires to schedule a football game with a school located in a neighboring state. Is it necessary that a sanction from the IHSAA and the National Federation be obtained for this contest? A. No, it is not necessary to apply for a sanction to play a single scheduled game with a high school in another state. (Rule 10-10-1.1) However, round-trip travel shall not exceed 600 miles from the Indiana state line. (Rules 10-1, 10-1.1, 10-1.2) Q. 10-5 May an IHSAA member school play in a basketball, baseball, soccer, softball or volleyball tournament involving 17 or more other schools from states all bordering Indiana? A. No, the IHSAA will not sanction any tournament in the sports of basketball, baseball, soccer, softball or volleyball which involve more than 16 schools. (Rule 10-1.3) Wrestling Scholar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash513 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Per the IHSAA By-Laws 10-1 Out-of-State Contest Limitations The address of out-of-state schools participating in a contest against a member school as well as the site of such contests must be within 600 miles round trip travel from the Indiana state line and shall be sponsored or co-sponsored by a member high school. 10-4 Mileage Limitation on Team Practices Team practices out-of-state shall not exceed 120 miles round trip from the Indiana state line. Team Travel - Generally Q. 10-1 May an IHSAA member school schedule and play single games with high schools of other states? A. Yes, provided the high schools of these other states are members in good standing in their state high school athletic associations. Round-trip mileage shall not exceed 600 miles from the Indiana state line of each participating school and the interstate contest. (Rules 10-1, 10-1.1) Q. 10-2 May an IHSAA member school play in a basketball, baseball, soccer, softball or volleyball tournament in Kansas? A. No, the contest in Kansas is more than 600 miles round trip from the Indiana state line. (Rule 10-1) Q. 10-3 How far may an athletic team travel out-of-state to play a contest? A. Interstate contests shall not exceed 600 miles round-trip travel from the Indiana state line. (Rule 10-1) Q. 10-4 A member school desires to schedule a football game with a school located in a neighboring state. Is it necessary that a sanction from the IHSAA and the National Federation be obtained for this contest? A. No, it is not necessary to apply for a sanction to play a single scheduled game with a high school in another state. (Rule 10-10-1.1) However, round-trip travel shall not exceed 600 miles from the Indiana state line. (Rules 10-1, 10-1.1, 10-1.2) Q. 10-5 May an IHSAA member school play in a basketball, baseball, soccer, softball or volleyball tournament involving 17 or more other schools from states all bordering Indiana? A. No, the IHSAA will not sanction any tournament in the sports of basketball, baseball, soccer, softball or volleyball which involve more than 16 schools. (Rule 10-1.3) Seems that there is some wiggle room here in that they have to be within 300 miles from the Indiana state boarder, not necessarily 300 Miles from the event site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Seems that there is some wiggle room here in that they have to be within 300 miles from the Indiana state boarder, not necessarily 300 Miles from the event site... Yes, so a team from Gary, IN could travel all the way to Alabama (about 500 miles, 1000 mile round trip) but could not travel to the northern parts of Wisconsin, nearly 400 miles of a shorter trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Yes, so a team from Gary, IN could travel all the way to Alabama (about 500 miles, 1000 mile round trip) but could not travel to the northern parts of Wisconsin, nearly 400 miles of a shorter trip. Angola could go to Memphis, TN close to 1300 miles round trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Pretty stupid, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlevito Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It think it would be a good idea to open the Al Smith up to some prestigous out of state nationally ranked teams. Due to the quality of the competition, I think this could draw some of the good teams out of IL, OH, MI, WI etc.. Since our travel restrictions dont let our good teams travel, lets bring them here to Indiana. Maybe some of our teams would get more national ranking consideration. The traveling restrictions really don't play a factor to inviting these big out of state teams. A few years ago a team from Michigan came to Al Smith. That didn't last long cause when it came time for the seeding meeting, the out of state teams have no real way to get any kids seeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The traveling restrictions really don't play a factor to inviting these big out of state teams. A few years ago a team from Michigan came to Al Smith. That didn't last long cause when it came time for the seeding meeting, the out of state teams have no real way to get any kids seeded. Winning percentage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The traveling restrictions really don't play a factor to inviting these big out of state teams. A few years ago a team from Michigan came to Al Smith. That didn't last long cause when it came time for the seeding meeting, the out of state teams have no real way to get any kids seeded. That's funny. You have about 100 teams going to the ironman and from about 20 different states, and they have no problem seeding it. You use criteria like retuning champ or placer. Even things like state placer or national placement are seeding criteria. Like Troll said you also have winning percentage. Troll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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