Y2CJ41 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Just as a heads up here is the reason why we had brackets released last night. Yesterday at Merrillville they handed out the sheet with the state draw on it. They were advertising it for coaches to come get the information. They gave this information out BEFORE and DURING the finals. The original brackets were correct with TrackWrestling as of last night, but changed this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Bleachers Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is it because they handed out the draws before the finals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Was it changed because wrestlers with this knowledge could have wrestled differently to get a better draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaiah11 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 This completely screwed the 152 bracket! swindlers! E-ville Spectator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaiah11 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Now #1-#2-#3 all on the same side. Works out good for Penn and Yorktown E-ville Spectator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-ville Spectator Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Just a few kids whose dream of getting to wrestle in the finals might be screwed due to bad brackets. 126 Molloy/Red - same side of bracket 138 Lee/James - same side of bracket 152 Kemper/ Forte - same side of bracket 160 Koontz/James - same side of bracket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleJimmy Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Leave it to da RegionRats to "F" things up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaiah11 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Now #1-#2-#3 all on the same side. Works out good for Penn and Yorktown E-ville Spectator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchas Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 This is not right. I could see a lawsuit coming. Not from me but don't be surprised. E-ville Spectator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Just as a heads up here is the reason why we had brackets released last night. Yesterday at Merrillville they handed out the sheet with the state draw on it. They were advertising it for coaches to come get the information. They gave this information out BEFORE and DURING the finals. The original brackets were correct with TrackWrestling as of last night, but changed this afternoon. I don't understand. Is this a rule? Who makes the decision to redraw brackets? E-ville Spectator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Bleachers Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 The weird thing is not all the brackets were re drawn. Who decided that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHS15195 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 220 was changed and that's a shame because Gurrea and woods #3 should be under the lights not in the semi finals. E-ville Spectator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatChick76 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 This angers me beyond belief. Yes, knowing the draw before you wrestle most certainly can change the way someone wrestles. In a sport that is based on never quitting, going until you break or you've broken your opponent, fighting for that #1 seed because you've earned the right for that ranking/draw, the fact that anyone was "advertising the draws for coaches to pick up" in the hopes of promoting what I believe to be behavior completely opposed to the whole mentality of wrestling itself, really angers me. KarlHungus, sweepsingle20 and E-ville Spectator 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 This angers me beyond belief. Yes, knowing the draw before you wrestle most certainly can change the way someone wrestles. In a sport that is based on never quitting, going until you break or you've broken your opponent, fighting for that #1 seed because you've earned the right for that ranking/draw, the fact that anyone was "advertising the draws for coaches to pick up" in the hopes of promoting what I believe to be behavior completely opposed to the whole mentality of wrestling itself, really angers me. I agree wholeheartedly. I don't think anyone threw a match at Merrillville but unfortunately it has happened in the past and it put the IHSAA in a position to make some decision to protect the integrity of the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800lbs Gorilla Mama Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Seems like some coach has complained and is now getting his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Bracket gate 2015. Shame on those who threw matches to get a favorable draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchas Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 So if all the other coaches complain will they change it back? E-ville Spectator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlevito Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Why in the world was the formula released in the first place at Merrillville? Since when has anyone ever done that? It has always been you wait till Sunday to see the draws. Edited February 15, 2015 by littlevito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchas Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is this for sure? The Ishaa still has last year's bracket on their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red6612 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) If it was a complaining coach that got his way odds are it was griffiths coach he is always crying about something Edited February 15, 2015 by red6612 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdpd8b Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) seems like now that its all on Track, they shouldn't be released to the semi states at all....then the IHSAA would have more conrol over it and only release the info when they are entirely sure the semi states are over...or do they have to be manually entered?... Edited February 15, 2015 by cdpd8b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn04 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Why in the world was the formula released in the first place at Merrillville? Since when has anyone ever done that? It has always been you wait till Sunday to see the draws. The only reason I can see releasing the formula before the tournament was over is so people/teams could get on the road as a safety precaution. But I totally agree. Release it Sunday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Did they give them out at other semi states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogillis85 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 As many people have pointed out, the formulas should not be decided until "EVERY" Semi-State is complete. I don't see where anyone at Merrillville SS would have thrown a match for a favorable Friday night match at Bankers Life. However if the formulas were released then there is that possibility. So "DA REGION" folks really didn't screw up anything. Just like many things in life if people would follow protocol and take a half ounce of pride in what they do could this could have been avoided. Sorry to the wrestlers and the parents that got a raw deal on this, but blaming people isn't going to change a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Someone asked...how come a few are the same if they re-drew them? I'm sure that if they really re-drew them, they did it randomly from scratch. If that's the case, on average, 4 or 5 would come out the same as before since there are only 3 different bracket arrangement combos possible. Edited February 15, 2015 by maligned bog190 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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