maligned Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Here's a 1A State Duals qualifying score update through regional. In 1A, these scores are now very, very meaningful. If we knew for sure how everyone will be classified, the 4 semi-state auto bids and the 6 wildcard auto bids would already be clinched. As it is, there are a couple teams in the top 10 that have a significant chance of being classified to 2A when the new IHSAA enrollment data comes out in March. There are also a couple of good teams that could come down to 1A that are tentatively listed in 2A. Because of this, the most interesting thing to look at is the race for those 9th/10th spots and 11th/12th place spots that could end up being the top 10 cutoff when classification happens. This weekend, first round wins for underclassmen will get you 3 more points and second round will get you another 1 point. Seniors are done scoring in 1A. Current semi-state leaders: Prairie Hts, Monrovia, Bremen, Knightstown Current next 6 best scores: Oak Hill, Adams Central, Centerville, Eastern Hancock, Triton, Tecumseh [table]Class 1A TeamsTotalStill Alive Pts. Available @ SS Prairie Heights2177 24 Oak Hill20510 40 Adams Central2027 16 Monrovia1933 8 Bremen1861 0 Knightstown1713 12 Centerville1605 19 Triton1594 8 Eastern Hancock1571 4 Tecumseh1573 0 Winchester1501 0 Attica1491 4 Churubusco1472 4 Lake Station Edison1441 0 Milan1322 6 Elwood1322 4 Covington1311 0 Wes-Del1310 0 North White1293 20 Fremont1281 4 Cass1263 0 Southern Wells1243 4 North Posey1231 4 Westview1220 0 North Miami1166 26 South Adams1144 8 South Putnam1111 4 LaVille1113 13 Eastside1083 8 Fountain Central1082 4 Monroe Central1074 0 Tri1040 0 Hagerstown1041 9 Woodlan1022 0 Triton Central1023 0 Northfield1001 9 Central Noble992 4 South Spencer993 4 West Central963 2 River Forest950 0 Bluffton950 0 Shenandoah952 8 Seeger920 0 Wood Memorial910 0 Clinton Prairie910 0 Sheridan900 0 Union County882 4 Taylor874 17 Union City833 4 Eastern (Greentown)804 24 Tell City791 0 Southwood780 0 Wabash772 4 Lapel760 0 Manchester762 9 Cascade751 0 Northeastern742 18 New Washington722 8 Forest Park703 15 Frankton690 0 Daleville693 9 Providence671 0 Eastern (Pekin)671 9 Winamac671 0 Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter672 4 North Newton630 0 Clinton Central621 4 Madison Grant580 0 North Vermillion570 0 North Knox573 4 Culver Community551 4 Crawford County541 0 Alexandria530 0 Southwestern (Hanover)530 0 Rossville481 2 Indianapolis Howe Academy451 4 Hebron440 0 Pioneer440 0 Turkey Run430 0 South Newton432 4 Indianapolis Manual420 0 Cambridge City Lincoln420 0 Speedway420 -5 Hammond Bishop Noll411 0 Rockville400 0 Indiana School for the Deaf402 11 Frontier391 0 Tri-Central380 0 North Judson380 0 Indianapolis Scecina351 0 Faith Christian320 0 Blue River Valley300 0 Whiting290 0 Caston280 0 Switzerland County270 0 Cloverdale250 0 Wapahani230 0 Indianapolis Broad Ripple230 0 Indianapolis Crispus Attucks220 0 Lafayette Central Catholic210 0 Carroll (Flora)200 0 Paoli110 0 Randolph Southern80 0 Indiana School for the Blind80 0 Indianapolis Shortridge40 0 000 0 [/table] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fine Print Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Question: How can teams that still have wrestlers in SS have available points that equal more than 4 points per wrestler? For instance, LaVille has 3 wrestlers left but 13 available points. Eastern (Greentown) 4 wrestlers and 24 possible points. North White 3 wrestlers and 20 points. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsawwrestling Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I think because they are all seniors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Only the underclassmen can score points in 1A at semi-state and state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fine Print Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Only the underclassmen can score points in 1A at semi-state and state. I understand that. But if North White has 3 underclassmen and each can score a possible 4 points at SS, why do they have 20 points available? In my math classes 3 x 4 was 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 He is asking how, if an underclassman can can score up to 4 points, can a team with 3 wrestlers score 13 points? (because 3x4=12, and 4x4 does not equal 20) I understand that. But if North White has 3 underclassmen and each can score a possible 4 points at SS, why do they have 20 points available? In my math classes 3 x 4 was 12. 1A schools teach math differently than 2A and 3A schools. That's why their seniors don't earn any points after regionals. The Fine Print 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fine Print Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I think because they are all seniors I get that. Triton has 4 wrestlers left. Two are seniors, so only 2 can score points at SS. So we have 8 available points. But something doesn't add up with a few of these schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I think I know this. In the North White example, they came out of the Logansport regional that got a quota of 3 SS qualifiers. So if these wrestlers got 4th, then they havent earned their semi-state points yet. If they win first round, they earn Semi-state points and also qualifying for 2nd round SS points. Troll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fine Print Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I think I know this. In the North White example, they came out of the Logansport regional that got a quota of 3 SS qualifiers. So if these wrestlers got 4th, then they havent earned their semi-state points yet. If they win first round, they earn Semi-state points and also qualifying for 2nd round SS points. Ahhh. Ok, I can buy that. I wasn't sure how that regional rating system worked, but that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 I think I know this. In the North White example, they came out of the Logansport regional that got a quota of 3 SS qualifiers. So if these wrestlers got 4th, then they havent earned their semi-state points yet. If they win first round, they earn Semi-state points and also qualifying for 2nd round SS points. Nailed it. If you advanced a 3rd or 4th place guy from a Category 2 regional or 4th place from a Category 3 regional, you didn't get semi-state first round points. Win in the first round on Saturday and you get upgraded straight to semi-state 2nd round points. Troll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fine Print Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 So how do you determine which first round loser in a category 5 regional gets semi-state points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Tiebreaker criteria for the different tourney levels are outlined in the procedures doc: http://www.ihswca.org/news/selection2015 For regional 5th place, it's 1) sectional place, 2) sectional category (for example, one 3rd place guy gets it over another because his sectional was tougher), 3) win%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeandBreighton Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 So, what would Oak Hill's score be in 2a, since we might end up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlevito Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 So, what would Oak Hill's score be in 2a, since we might end u Oak Hill would have 150 right now if they were in 2A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Oak Hill would have 150 right now if they were in 2A. Yes, you would be in 10th place at 150--but you would also have 71 points available at semi-state, more than any 2A team. Ridgeway and King would get 9 points for first round wins, your other underclassmen would get 5, King would get 4, and your other seniors would get 2. Second round wins for everybody are worth 2 more points in 2A. Edited February 11, 2015 by maligned JakeandBreighton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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