MattM Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 My top pick after Olympics would be Jordan Burroughs . Great draw for any school and he Would draw a lot of talent . Also like Mark Perry and a few of Minnesotas asst.. I can't take credit for this IU suggestion, but I do see some upside in exploring this option in the future. Look into Reece Humphrey as a possible head coach. The new weight international weight change may eliminate him as a viable candidate in the next year or two for the World/Olympic team. Their is some intrigue in the position based on his father once coaching IU. You are not taking a current coach away from another Big 10 school, so their is no loyalty issue there. You can likely get his dad and brother to be part of the coaching staff, and possibly do so at a cheap price which helps get more for your buck. He could likely also pull in one or two of his Ohio RTC and World Team buddies to be on the coaching staff (Bergman for the upper weight and/or Angel at the lower weights), depending on their competition status over the next few years. Then still have his dad and brother around in some type of administrative role. His name, the rest of the coaching staff, and their total connections would help attract some top guys from Indiana and Ohio to the college. Not to mention the extra pull they could have from their additional focus on developing wrestling for the international styles too. As well, the total group would attract more high school and middle school kids to dual meets and summer camps. Not saying I'm sold on it completely, it looks like something I'd be willing to explore as an option if the job is available in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 great thoughts, now we need the administration to pull the trigger. I do believe your lead assistants can not still be training for competition. One cannot be dedicated to the wrestlers and team if he is still pursuing his interest. Great to have them in the room banging heads and teaching but they can not be fully committed to both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 So does IU lack of showing force them to finally make a change Still would depend on the administrations feeling on what they want out of the wrestling program or any secondary sports in general. Walsh and LeBlanc not being able to AAing is disappointing. Chalfaunt making the national finals would have gave some glimmer of success but, his fall to 6th took that away leaving the Hoosiers tied for 25th place. If the AD is wanting to see the program moving in an more upward direction in terms of dual results and NCAA tournament finish then he's likely has some things to discuss with Goldman. ff the AD more worried about most of the secondary sports having academic success and staying out of legal issue then the final year results may not be as big of a issue especially if Goldman's contract is not up (not sure on that issue). However, if a few of this years starters indeed were pulled from the lineup due to academic issues, the AD most certainly will have some things to address with the staff on the not competition side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I agree with having two starters removed for grades (supposedly) it could change Admin.stance on the whole seen. I am sure some things got pushed to the limit and could be on the admin radar already. That's not the biggest issue, besides wrestling below their seeds how do you not have a full time HWY coach for your wrestler who had the best chance at NCAA. IU should of had someone in the room banging with him for three years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbp Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'll take Mark Perry Donny Pritzlaff Terry Brands Lou Rosselli Brandon Eggum Bryan Snyder Eric Guerrero Damian Hahn I am sure any one of these guys would like to have a head coaching gig in the B1G I REALLY doubt IU is at the top of anyone's dream job . 1-31 in the B1G the last 4 years (with little change in sight ) is hardly a magnet for top names . I say give the job to DeGain and Powless and bring Young back from Army -find a lightweight coach and let these guys outwork everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Re: Next years darkhorse How did IU let him get away by Threadkilla » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:15 am Quinton Murphy of Clarion is going to be in the hunt next year. 48-7 as a redshirt this year wrestling up a weight. Threadkilla Gold Member Posts: 2206 Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:40 pm Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I REALLY doubt IU is at the top of anyone's dream job . 1-31 in the B1G the last 4 years (with little change in sight ) is hardly a magnet for top names . I say give the job to DeGain and Powless and bring Young back from Army -find a lightweight coach and let these guys outwork everyone else. No offense, but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffm Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Firstly, I want to say howdy as this is my first post to the site. I found this thread to be interesting since we have battled this very issue for years now in my home state of California. Seems as though all of our best kids flee the state. But after going thru the process with my son (he signed with IU this year) it really comes down to one thing: Commonality. My son grew up with Cal State Bakersfield, Stanford, Cal Poly etc. right in his backyard. He appreciated them, but wanted to try what he felt were bigger things. New things. I believe that most kids feel the same. Unless their Dad or Uncle, Brothers, Grandpas, graduated from those local schools, there really isn't to much loyalty that goes into the decision. Ultimately my son was able to make the decision based upon league affiliation and coaches. He is super happy with his decision and cant wait to get on the mat and start working on becoming an AA. I look forward to being a part of the forum going forward.. GO HOOSIERS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Wow, it start with the coaches I wish you would have done your research. Tell me how the current staff has help wrestlers develop and place above their seed. Just as Zach Zimmer about the staff. This has nothing to do with IU keeping or recruiting local kids , but just retaining all kids they recruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffm Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 How about I one up you and ask his current coaches about Zimmer? That situation is known about as well as can be on this end. Out of respect for the kid, I will keep that to myself. I will stay positive and just ask another California kid on the team about the coaches... Seems to have worked out just fine thanks... Seems like you put more emphasis on the coaches and not the wrestlers themselves. When the choice was made, there were three four time AA's on staff. If a wrestler cant learn from people that have been there done that, that's on them. Dang Bronx... I could have liked you, seeing how I am a Yanks fan and all... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffm Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 This has nothing to do with IU keeping or recruiting local kids , but just retaining all kids they recruit. The thread itself says ANOTHER INDIANA HIGH SCHOOL ELITE WRESTLER FLEES THE STATE... :-* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Jeff all I will say, is good luck to your son if you really are from CA. You know what really happen with Zach. IU did forfeit that weight multiple times this year. The staff turnover, wrestler turnover speaks for itself Yankees, do rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 How about I one up you and ask his current coaches about Zimmer? That situation is known about as well as can be on this end. Out of respect for the kid, I will keep that to myself. I will stay positive and just ask another California kid on the team about the coaches... Seems to have worked out just fine thanks... Seems like you put more emphasis on the coaches and not the wrestlers themselves. When the choice was made, there were three four time AA's on staff. If a wrestler cant learn from people that have been there done that, that's on them. Dang Bronx... I could have liked you, seeing how I am a Yanks fan and all... lol. You probably couldn't have liked him, the dude thrives on hating IU. It's over the top. Good luck to you and your son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffm Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 You probably couldn't have liked him, the dude thrives on hating IU. It's over the top. Good luck to you and your son! Thank you. Looking forward to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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