Mat_Rat_138 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Who will win the team title, and why? Will Perry Meridian earn themselves yet another team title? Which school has what it takes to start a "dynasty"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yung-money-cash-20 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 i will have to go with Cathedral. Best team money can buy. Wait till you see the recruits for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathewsz7 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 i will have to go with Cathedral. Best team money can buy. Wait till you see the recruits for next year. the George Steinbrenner/Jerry Jones of Indiana high school wrestling...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICfan Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I will go with Cathederal because ihsaa ' s way of determining the team champs is flawed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPSmith Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 i will have to go with Cathedral. Best team money can buy. Wait till you see the recruits for next year. Like who? I have been hearing that they will have a down year after losing their seniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornton Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Like who? I have been hearing that they will have a down year after losing their seniors. Cathedral's cupboard will hardly be bare next year. They have Bailey, Turner, Harvey, Stewart and Rypel among others returning. The Irish will be strong again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaWrestlingGuy1 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 the George Steinbrenner/Jerry Jones of Indiana high school wrestling...lol Love it. If you are in 7th or 8th grade, tell your mom we have a Camaro for her and tell your dad we have some bags of cash ready to distribute. You have to be a ISWA Middle School finalist though. If not, we'll save all that money for the good kids. We've never won a state wrestling title in 40 years as one of the most prolific programs in the state. We are long overdue. Praying that we might snag in this year. 20 State Champs, 100s of medalists, multiple team Runners-Up, 20 or more Top 5 IHSAA Team finishes, etc. Hoping we can take care of business. In my mind, Penn has a great shot with some excellent draws. Perry has a great shot with two state champ contenders. And, Mater Dei can surprise w Egli/Lee as champs. Though we have some horses, this year is madly competitive. Should be a ton of fun. Get it done, Irish. Your heritage anxiously awaits your performance. Let's go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathewsz7 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Relax IWG, it was just a joke in regards to the previous post....good luck this week end, you guys may finally get that title, I think with 3 probable champs and another couple deep runs I think you guys are the favorites.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownhustler Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Well said IWG....no one talks about how far kids travel to wrestle for PM...just because they are a public school does not mean they do not cherry pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornton Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Well said IWG....no one talks about how far kids travel to wrestle for PM...just because they are a public school does not mean they do not cherry pick. To whom do you refer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellrs Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Love it. If you are in 7th or 8th grade, tell your mom we have a Camaro for her and tell your dad we have some bags of cash ready to distribute. You have to be a ISWA Middle School finalist though. If not, we'll save all that money for the good kids. Dang it, they must have started this the year after my Middle School state champ enrolled there. A new Camaro sure sounds nicer than my ride. Maybe I better take this up with admissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Cathedral has 3 strong champion candidates plus other likely placers... If they just get all 3 to finals plus place the other three it may be too much for anyone to overcome... Could be a tight race for second... Yorktown Perry EMD ... And Friday night may determine that between these three.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yung-money-cash-20 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Well I know of kids that next year and a for the next couple years that will drive thru perry to go to cathedral! ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat_Rat_138 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Dang it, they must have started this the year after my Middle School state champ enrolled there. A new Camaro sure sounds nicer than my ride. Maybe I better take this up with admissions. Love hearing both sides of the argument! I don't think it has anything to do with the money, parents want their kids to succeed, and a strong wrestling program with good coaching is where they're going to send them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Love it. If you are in 7th or 8th grade, tell your mom we have a Camaro for her and tell your dad we have some bags of cash ready to distribute. You have to be a ISWA Middle School finalist though. If not, we'll save all that money for the good kids. We've never won a state wrestling title in 40 years as one of the most prolific programs in the state. We are long overdue. Praying that we might snag in this year. 20 State Champs, 100s of medalists, multiple team Runners-Up, 20 or more Top 5 IHSAA Team finishes, etc. Hoping we can take care of business. In my mind, Penn has a great shot with some excellent draws. Perry has a great shot with two state champ contenders. And, Mater Dei can surprise w Egli/Lee as champs. Though we have some horses, this year is madly competitive. Should be a ton of fun. Get it done, Irish. Your heritage anxiously awaits your performance. Let's go! a Camaro?........if i'm getting bags of cash my wife is going to want at least a ferrari....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matts Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 If there was ever a school in Indiana that has consistently, year in and year out, produced quality wrestling teams, it is Cathedral. In my mind, if there was ever a school without a state title that deserves to hang a banner in their gym, it is Cathedral...even if it kinda pains me to say that (In a fun way of course). If you are like me in your late 30s or 40s and grew up around Indianapolis or a certain school in Muncie, your view of the Fighting Irish is probably influenced by an amazing hall of fame coach. Love or hate Coach Rhodes, no one can debate his teams were always beyond tough. If you ever wrestled his kids or coached against him, win or lose, you inevitably walked away pretty much beat up. In thirteen years we were only able to beat Cathedral once when we were at our best and they were in a building year while transitioning coaching staffs. A year later Coach McGuinley and company came back to our gym and pretty much handed us our heads. Today, I am long removed from Indiana, coaching, and only get to follow wrestling as best I can through the internet and a few friends. Looking back and with some distance I have no doubt that Cathedral, its history, its hard-nosed style, and even its controversy was and is only good for Indiana wrestling. I would love for them to finally win a title. So good luck to the entire Cathedral program, past and present, y'all truly deserve a long, long overdue championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 If anyone other than Franklin wins the team title , it will show how flawed this system is . Franklin has already proven they are the best team in Indiana this year . Cathedral has 6 very good wrestlers , but a wrestling team is made up of 14 wrestlers , that is why the Irish have 3 dual losses . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode#31 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 If there was ever a school in Indiana that has consistently, year in and year out, produced quality wrestling teams, it is Cathedral. In my mind, if there was ever a school without a state title that deserves to hang a banner in their gym, it is Cathedral...even if it kinda pains me to say that (In a fun way of course). If you are like me in your late 30s or 40s and grew up around Indianapolis or a certain school in Muncie, your view of the Fighting Irish is probably influenced by an amazing hall of fame coach. Love or hate Coach Rhodes, no one can debate his teams were always beyond tough. If you ever wrestled his kids or coached against him, win or lose, you inevitably walked away pretty much beat up. In thirteen years we were only able to beat Cathedral once when we were at our best and they were in a building year while transitioning coaching staffs. A year later Coach McGuinley and company came back to our gym and pretty much handed us our heads. Today, I am long removed from Indiana, coaching, and only get to follow wrestling as best I can through the internet and a few friends. Looking back and with some distance I have no doubt that Cathedral, its history, its hard-nosed style, and even its controversy was and is only good for Indiana wrestling. I would love for them to finally win a title. So good luck to the entire Cathedral program, past and present, y'all truly deserve a long, long overdue championship. Always loved competing against Rhode even though he usually got the better of us too. Good guy. Great competitor. He had an amazing coaching gift for getting every last drop of talent out of his guys. I dont really care who wins the team title, but it bothers me that none of the Cathedral studs (save Corsaro) are actually Cathedral products and are all move-ins. I know you can say the same for Perry and other schools so don't bash me too hard. I guess it is just a different era with open enrollment than I am used to " back in my day". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigginhurts Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Its time for the Grizzly Bears of Frankling and Bear Hasseman to get a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeinandout Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 If there was ever a school in Indiana that has consistently, year in and year out, produced quality wrestling teams, it is Cathedral. In my mind, if there was ever a school without a state title that deserves to hang a banner in their gym, it is Cathedral...even if it kinda pains me to say that (In a fun way of course). If you are like me in your late 30s or 40s and grew up around Indianapolis or a certain school in Muncie, your view of the Fighting Irish is probably influenced by an amazing hall of fame coach. Love or hate Coach Rhodes, no one can debate his teams were always beyond tough. If you ever wrestled his kids or coached against him, win or lose, you inevitably walked away pretty much beat up. In thirteen years we were only able to beat Cathedral once when we were at our best and they were in a building year while transitioning coaching staffs. A year later Coach McGuinley and company came back to our gym and pretty much handed us our heads. Today, I am long removed from Indiana, coaching, and only get to follow wrestling as best I can through the internet and a few friends. Looking back and with some distance I have no doubt that Cathedral, its history, its hard-nosed style, and even its controversy was and is only good for Indiana wrestling. I would love for them to finally win a title. So good luck to the entire Cathedral program, past and present, y'all truly deserve a long, long overdue championship. I just don't see how you could say they "truly deserve it." At md, most of those kids go to the feeder schools. Cathedral has kids from greenwood, new pal, etc. How do they deserve it? Just cause they haven't achieved it? I really wouldn't say that if the first time those kids saw Cathedral's wrestling room wasn't their frosh year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bob 77 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I just don't see how you could say they "truly deserve it." At md, most of those kids go to the feeder schools. Cathedral has kids from greenwood, new pal, etc. How do they deserve it? Just cause they haven't achieved it? I really wouldn't say that if the first time those kids saw Cathedral's wrestling room wasn't their frosh year. The rules clearly state a student can go to whatever school he wants without penalty unless he switches schools, so quit your crying and yelling foul and learn to play with the big boys. If you don't think PM,EMD,Yorktown,Mishawaka,CP ect... hasn't been getting move-ins over the years for whatever reason than your delusional!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAJR Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The rules clearly state a student can go to whatever school he wants without penalty unless he switches schools, so quit your crying and yelling foul and learn to play with the big boys. If you don't think PM,EMD,Yorktown,Mishawaka,CP ect... hasn't been getting move-ins over the years for whatever reason than your delusional!!! Says the man that used to bleed Perry blue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matts Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I just don't see how you could say they "truly deserve it." At md, most of those kids go to the feeder schools. Cathedral has kids from greenwood, new pal, etc. How do they deserve it? Just cause they haven't achieved it? I really wouldn't say that if the first time those kids saw Cathedral's wrestling room wasn't their frosh year. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Cathedral has exactly zero feeder schools. It is not part of the Indianapolis Archdiocese Schools whereas MD is part of the Evansville Diocese Schools. Cathedral is a private high school unto itself. One could make the argument that Cathedral gets Bishop Chatard's kids that come out of the Archdiocese schools, but so does Brebeuf, Park Tudor, North Central, LN, LC... Heck, the whole north side of Indianapolis is a little bit unique compared to most areas of the state as it is dense with great high schools and with great programs in academics, athletics, performing arts, etc... Perhaps so many championships land in that part of Marion County because so many schools have to raise their game to compete for the same kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeinandout Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The rules clearly state a student can go to whatever school he wants without penalty unless he switches schools, so quit your crying and yelling foul and learn to play with the big boys. If you don't think PM,EMD,Yorktown,Mishawaka,CP ect... hasn't been getting move-ins over the years for whatever reason than your delusional!!! Yeah, but teams like Perry also get move outs. I am pretty sure cathedral's big guy grew up a half mile from the PM. To say they deserve it is a strectch. Some of the coaches from teams you mention are at elementary tournaments every weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornton Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The rules clearly state a student can go to whatever school he wants without penalty unless he switches schools, so quit your crying and yelling foul and learn to play with the big boys. If you don't think PM,EMD,Yorktown,Mishawaka,CP ect... hasn't been getting move-ins over the years for whatever reason than your delusional!!! Bob, I think our 3 state titles prove we can play with the big boys. And while we have had a couple of move ins, you can't really equate that with what Cathedral can do. No one is saying it is against the rules...we just operate in 2 different worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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