maligned Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Below are OFFICIAL final qualifying scores for the 2013-14 IHSWCA Duals State Finals, now with official classifications completed based on new IHSAA data for 2013-14 school year. 3A Summary Semi-state representatives: Merrillville, Perry Meridian, Franklin, East Noble 1st and 2nd wildcards: Penn, Warren Central Eligible for 3rd and 4th wildcard voting: Cathedral, Carroll Eligible for 4th wildcard voting only: Bloomington South, Mishawaka, Evansville Mater Dei 2A Summary Semi-state representatives: Yorktown, Twin Lakes, Lebanon, Danville 1st and 2nd wildcards: Leo, Western Eligible for 3rd and 4th wildcard voting: Heritage Hills, Culver Academies, New Haven, New Prairie, Jimtown, Hanover Central, North Montgomery, Delphi, Peru, Fairfield, Evansville Memorial 1A Summary Semi-state representatives: Bremen, Fremont, South Putnam, Clinton Central 1st and 2nd wildcards: Adams Central, South Adams Eligible for 3rd and 4th wildcard voting: Woodlan, Churubusco, West Central, Cass, Manchester, Central Noble, Prairie Heights, Triton Central, North Knox Eligible for 4th wildcard voting only: Eastside *-team's final score adjusted due to top level underclassman being injured before sectional ##-team is eligible for both 3rd and 4th wildcard voting #-team is eligible for 4th wildcard voting (several schools that have no effect on who qualifies have not been moved to their new classifications and re-scored) AAA: Merrillville 386.43 (semi-state representative) Perry Meridian 375.82 (semi-state representative) Penn 371.42 (1st wildcard) Warren Central 345.25 (2nd wildcard) Indy Cathedral 339.76 ## Franklin 336.52 (semi-state representative) East Noble 323.85 (semi-state representative) Carroll (FW) 315.54 ## Bloomington South 300.60 # Mishawaka 291.18 # Ev. Mater Dei 289.23 # New Palestine 285.39 Ev. Central 265.42 Lake Central 257.40 Crown Point 252.35 Avon 227.21 Hamilton Southeastern 225.08 Lowell 224.74* Westfield 221.57 Harrison (West Lafayette) 209.83 Jasper 209.55 Kokomo 208.91 Carmel 208.18 Ben Davis 207.05 Plymouth 205.13 Center Grove 204.91 Castle 198.87 Ev. Reitz 198.47 Noblesville 194.36 Portage 190.82 Zionsville 190.76 Elkhart Memorial 187.23 Goshen 180.11 Greenfield-Central 178.83 Mooresville 175.57 Martinsville 175.41 LaPorte 168.67 Valparaiso 166.27 Fishers 164.58 Chesterton 164.22 Columbus East 163.49 Pendleton Heights 163.38 South Bend Clay 163.14 Franklin Central 161.66 Plainfield 160.92 Connersville 158.48 Hammond Morton 157.68 Hobart 156.82 FW Snider 153.21 Floyd Central 152.64 Terre Haute South 148.33 New Castle 147.75 Columbia City 147.74 Jeffersonville 147.27 Jay County 145.06 Brownsburg 143.56 Columbus North 142.16 Northridge 140.81 Lawrence North 139.11 Jennings County 138.25 North Central (Indy) 136.27 Lafayette Jefferson 128.42 DeKalb 128.06 Lawrence Central 127.94 FW Wayne 127.58 Huntington North 122.44 FW Northrop 118.02 Greenwood 113.55 Northview 111.71 New Albany 105.87 Terre Haute North 105.18 Pike 104.42 Indy Arsenal Tech 103.32 Homestead 99.56 Richmond 98.83 Marion 96.21 Ev. North 95.87 East Central 95.45 Bloomington North 94.27 Ev. Harrison 92.15 South Bend Washington 90.10 Elkhart Central 89.35 South Bend Riley 85.70 Munster 84.69 McCutcheon 84.21 Southport 83.66 Seymour 82.90 Logansport 82.47 FW North Side 82.35 FW South Side 82.19 Whiteland 80.94 Concord 76.45 Bedford North Lawrence 75.61 South Bend Adams 73.35 Warsaw 72.80 Decatur Central 66.63 Shelbyville 63.78 Anderson 63.63 Mount Vernon (Fortville) 57.34 Highland 50.82 East Chicago Central 46.71 Gary West Side 43.74 Michigan City 30.27 AA: Yorktown 368.26 (semi-state representative) Danville 328.46 (semi-state representative) Leo 254.03 (1st wildcard) Western 249.75 (2nd wildcard) Heritage Hills 243.85 ## Twin Lakes 243.18 (semi-state representative) Culver Academies 241.15 ## Peru 239.38 ## New Haven 236.68 ## New Prairie 234.10* ## Jimtown 233.64* ## Fairfield 224.40 ## Hanover Central 223.39 ## Lebanon 222.66 (semi-state representative) Ev. Memorial 222.43 ## North Montgomery 215.43 ## Delphi 214.80 ## West Lafayette 210.97 Rochester 201.14 Gibson Southern 196.61 Angola 191.30 Southmont 190.39 Mount Vernon 190.09 Southridge 187.16 Boonville 187.03 Tippecanoe Valley 186.81 Garrett 175.21 Oak Hill 174 Bellmont 172.72 Benton Central 172.27 Glenn 171.96 Greensburg 167.39 Edgewood 167.06* Calumet 166.83 South Bend St. Joseph's 165.85 Hamilton Heights 165.81 Maconaquah 160.48 Madison 156.19 Whitko 155.46 Roncalli 150.91 Indian Creek 150.60 Western Boone 149.20 Cascade 145.00 Pike Central 144.30 Heritage 142.48 Centerville 138.77 Washington 138.65 Indy Cardinal Ritter 137.83 FW Bishop Dwenger 136.23 Muncie Southside 135.41 South Deaborn 132.12 Franklin County 132.09 Indy Bishop Chatard 131.90 Corydon Central 126.75 Sullivan 126.57 Batesville 125.21 Vincennes Lincoln 122.82 Rushville 121.44 Wawasee 119.48 Mishawaka Marian 118.01 NorthWood 116.74 FW Concordia Lutheran 113.77 Beech Grove 112.04 Delta 107.08 Griffith 106.28 Greencastle 105.48 Owen Valley 104.49 Princeton 101.77 Crawfordsville 101.72 Knox 101.66 Lakeland 101.36 West Noble 100.00 South Vermillion 99.82 Brown County 98.80 Muncie Central 98.67 Charlestown 97.27 Norwell 97.20 Tipton 96.97 Mitchell 90.76 Mississinewa 89.92 Hammond Clark 89.36 Lawrenceburg 84.28 Blackford 81.95 Rensselaer Central 81.28 Northwestern 75.50 Frankfort 75.30 Andrean 73.84 Hammond Gavit 69.91 Scottsburg 69.37 FW Bishop Luers 69.03 Indy Howe Academy 64.76 Guerin Catholic 62.33 West Vigo 60.83 Indy Broad Ripple 60.39 Tri-West Hendricks 59.56 Gary Wallace 59.10 North Putnam 56.45 Indy Northwest 55.50 Boone Grove 54.83 Eastbrook 52.48 Brebeuf Jesuit 50.88 Ev. Bosse 44.70 Salem 43.08 Indy Manual 35.64 Hammond 30.30 Indy Arlington 28.80 Wheeler 0.00 A: Fremont 265.88 (semi-state representative) Adams Central 264.25 (1st wildcard) South Adams 253.66 (2nd wildcard) Bremen 247.89* (semi-state representative) Clinton Central 231.91 (semi-state representative) South Putnam 210.84 (semi-state representative) Woodlan 199.95 ## Churubusco 196.95 ## West Central 194.23 ## Cass 186.45 ## Manchester 186.44 ## Central Noble 178.49 ## Prairie Heights 170.72 ## North Knox 168.32 ## Triton Central 166.50 ## Eastside 162.31 # North White 160.80 Milan 153.08 Southwood 146.22 South Spencer 140.01 Frankton 137.85 Triton 134.29 Elwood 133.52 Wood Memorial 133.40 Fountain Central 129.83 Tell City 126.38 LaVille 123.62 Winamac 121.48 Eastern (Pekin) 119.01 Winchester 118.99 Hammond Bishop Noll 118.88 Wes-Del 118.59 Indy Scecina 117.63 Alexandria 115.26 Knightstown 115.08 Tri-Central 111.95 Shenandoah 111.51 Tecumseh 111.48 River Forest 111.23 Westview 110.80 Eastern (Greentown) 105.59 Hagerstown 103.40 Seeger 102.09 Clinton Prairie 102.08 Monrovia 99.90 Southern Wells 99.76 Union City 99.06 New Washington 98.89 South Newton 97.77 Northfield 97.56 Paoli 97.08 North Newton 97.06 Indy Crispus Attucks 96.46 North Miami 94.91 Union County 92.41 Taylor 91.52 Eastern Hancock 90.75 Covington 90.22 Lapel 89.13 Southwestern (Hanover) 88.74 North Posey 88.70 Forest Park 87.84 Cambridge City Lincoln 83.25 Caston 82.45 Monroe Central 81.71 Providence 80.80 Speedway 80.19 Lake Station Edison 76.39 Indy Washington 73.26 Rockville 68.63 Hebron 67.95 Attica 67.73 Switzerland County 65.52 Wabash 64.50 Sheridan 63.11 Rossville 61.83 Culver Community 61.56 Tri 61.50 North Vermillion 56.94 North Judson 56.57 Frontier 55.44 Pioneer 55.28 Carroll (Flora) 54.98 Bluffton 53.97 Wapahani 53.81 Crawford County 45.65 Blue River Valley 42.00 Madison-Grant 41.25 Indy Marshall 35.21 Whiting 34.50 Oldenburg Academy 34.41 Northeastern 33.18 Cloverdale 32.08 Turkey Run 24.95 Daleville 18.05 Park Tudor 17.28 Faith Christian 15.96 Randolph Southern 13.57 Howe Military 7.70 Christian Academy of Indiana 7.50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeandBreighton Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 does this take into account how many will return next year that are left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 does this take into account how many will return next year that are left? Yes, underclassmen and seniors contribute to your score much differently. The fact that you're getting all 10 remaining guys back means you have a much, much higher potential to score big points than almost anyone else. If you advance a few to semi-state and then win a match or two there, you will have a very competitive score. Procedures: http://indianamat.com/stuff/IHSWCADualsStateFinalsSelectionProcedures2013.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bog190 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I beleive Adams Central has 13 Regional qualifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 I beleive Adams Central has 13 Regional qualifiers. You're right...it was one score that hadn't been cross-checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Will you post updated scores before the semi state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 What a bunch of hoopla, the old style was a lot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 What a bunch of hoopla, the old style was a lot better You constantly complain, but guess what??? We don't have the old style anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 What a bunch of hoopla, the old style was a lot better The old style is what we are currently using to determine the team state champion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 What a bunch of hoopla, the old style was a lot better you do better (marginally so) when you are rambling about warren central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1894life Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 The updated information would be interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestleMan Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 you do better (marginally so) when you are rambling about warren central. I disagree Hook. I think his ramblings about Warren Central are off the wall. This seems like a well thought out, educated response which is very appropriate for the conversation taking place. Rambling on and on and on about Warren Central being better than PM is just crazy talk. But, I suspect we won't have to listen much longer as Warren Central will fade away along with Mr. 182. or Caliboy or whateven his name is at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 The updated information would be interesting! coming soon! We had about everything that could have gone wrong happen last week, so we're still catching up making sure everything is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 you do better (marginally so) when you are rambling about warren central. You guys act like WC wasnt a top 10 team a few months ago. now look TOLD YOU SO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestlingfan182 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I disagree Hook. I think his ramblings about Warren Central are off the wall. This seems like a well thought out, educated response which is very appropriate for the conversation taking place. Rambling on and on and on about Warren Central being better than PM is just crazy talk. But, I suspect we won't have to listen much longer as Warren Central will fade away along with Mr. 182. or Caliboy or whateven his name is at the time. lol I never said anyone's better than PM For all that don't know I'm a huge PM FAN My daughters attend PM Next Roncalli and then WC I just new WC was better than earlier projected.O ya and my names Jason Richards i don't need to hide behind these screen names like a lot of you .Ya Jimtown fan as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 Scores now UNOFFICIALLY updated through regional. Check out the edited "notes" for the latest comments/concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrq Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I sure would of thought East Noble would of been higher than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcatcountry97 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Like securing a takedown – I have 2 points: 1 -The current method of tallying the scores is by far the best way to determine a state champion. It controls for big school vs little school and adds a lot of excitement. For example if you’re a tiny little school and can only get 8 kids out for the team, and you can manage 6 guys placing high, you can compete with Perry Meridian or Mater Dei, or Crown Point or whomever. This is the old school way. – AS THE NCAA DOES IT. 2 - Also – I will not respect any so called ‘state tournament’ that isn’t represented by every portion of the state. When I was looking through this current year's I couldn’t help but notice that there was not one single Region Team? I don’t profess to know the reasoning, but I know it affects the validity of tournament. Also allowing Mater Dei to move up to the big schools? Then what is the point in having different school sizes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwoodjc89 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Pretty sure Crown Point turned down the opportunity to wrestle in the IHSWCA State duals this year. That is one reason why there was no region team represented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 lol I never said anyone's better than PM For all that don't know I'm a huge PM FAN My daughters attend PM Next Roncalli and then WC I just new WC was better than earlier projected.O ya and my names Jason Richards i don't need to hide behind these screen names like a lot of you .Ya Jimtown fan as well would one of these fine schools allow you to ride shotgun with your daughter in english class? check it out! the worse thing they can do is to tell you "no". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Like securing a takedown – I have 2 points: 1 -The current method of tallying the scores is by far the best way to determine a state champion. It controls for big school vs little school and adds a lot of excitement. For example if you’re a tiny little school and can only get 8 kids out for the team, and you can manage 6 guys placing high, you can compete with Perry Meridian or Mater Dei, or Crown Point or whomever. This is the old school way. – AS THE NCAA DOES IT. 2 - Also – I will not respect any so called ‘state tournament’ that isn’t represented by every portion of the state. When I was looking through this current year's I couldn’t help but notice that there was not one single Region Team? I don’t profess to know the reasoning, but I know it affects the validity of tournament. Also allowing Mater Dei to move up to the big schools? Then what is the point in having different school sizes ? Merrillville turned down the initial bid. Then crown point turned it down after Merrillville. I'm not sure of the reasoning behind them turning it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdpd8b Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 humor me....how is it even possible that Lebanon is ahead of North Montgomery? North beats Danville head to head,,,beats Southmont..head to head beat Lebanon head to head...win sectionals, is the top2 A team at regionals...has 6 going to semi state with 2 alternates..even with out the regional win, there is no way this is possible... Darrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 humor me....how is it even possible that Lebanon is ahead of North Montgomery? North beats Danville head to head,,,beats Southmont..head to head beat Lebanon head to head...win sectionals, is the top2 A team at regionals...has 6 going to semi state with 2 alternates..even with out the regional win, there is no way this is possible... Darrell If you are not aware the points are mostly based off of the accomplishments of Juniors-Freshman in this years tournament, since they will be the ones returning for next years team competition. Is North Montgomery more Senior heavy than Lebanon with their remaining wrestlers? The points are also only calculated through Regional, and several major shifts occur after the next two rounds are over. Lastly, they did mention a few scores still needed to be rechecked so it is possible one of those teams calculations are still a little off. I'd wait a few more weeks in order to get a better overall idea of whats happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Read this http://indianamat.com/stuff/IHSWCADualsStateFinalsSelectionProcedures2013.pdf Open Excel Plug in numbers Then complain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdpd8b Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 then that brings in the case that Danville who is #1 has 10 Seniors in the lineup...North has 4 and Lebanon 3...Lebanon has 2 underclassmen going to semi state...North has 3....so..we advance more underclassemen and have more alternates...and we beat them at conference by 50pts and head to head ...so still dont add up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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