kullerySBR Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I know it would be made so I thought I would start it off, let's hear em!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1N1 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 From a team score stand point, this could be one of the more interesting sectionals in many, many years. Overall, I think Penn wins the team score going away. However, the real stunner could be that Mishawaka High School could end up in 4th place at this sectional. I don't think they have ever placed that low. Clay is very tough and will probably be 2nd or 3rd. Riley is vastly underrated. If Riley was in almost any other conference without 3 ranked teams battling them, Riley probably would be ranked. So Riley also can place 2nd or 3rd. And Riley just beat Mishawaka in a dual meet 10 days ago. Mishawaka still has a bunch of excellent wrestlers. But Mishawaka lost some heavy hitters and replaced them with some weaker guys. Those weaker Mishawaka guys might allow Riley and/or Clay to score enough bonus points to place higher than Mishawaka. I also wonder about motivation with Mishawaka. I keep hearing several of their better guys are looking to transfer after this year because of all trouble at the school and in the program. Parts of hearing in Mishawaka wrestling case to be closed to public- http://www.wndu.com/localnews/headlines/Parts_of_hearing_in_Mishawaka_wrestling_case_to_be_closed_to_public_137925523.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kullerySBR Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 My perspective, it's going to come down to us (SB Riley) and Penn!!! There is going to be some great wrestling Saturday!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MISHCAVEFAN Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Anyone have the seedings ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurford160 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 All one seeds should hold up just a few might change 106 Zach Davis 160 Joey Stasiak 182 Tyler Crain 285 Marcus Dozier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kullerySBR Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 http://indianamat.com/brackets/2012/mishawaka2012.pdf Those are the brackets Here are the seeds: 106 1) Sinkovics (Mish) 2) Davis (Penn) 3) Olsen (SBA) 4) Hartman (SBC) 113 1) Hart (Penn) 2) Wordlaw (SBR) 3) Stephens (SBW) 4) Chadwick (MIsh) 120 1) Davis (Penn) 2) Emmons (Mish) 3) Weaver (LaVille) 4) Anderson-Taylor (SBR) 126 1) Martsolf (Mish) 2) Glueckert (SBC) 3) Juarez (SBR) 4) Varner (Penn) 132 1) Forte (Mish) 2) Ferdig (SBA) 3) Johnson (SBC) 4) Fowler (SBW) 138 1) Hartman (SBC) 2) Macri (Mish) 3) Varner (Penn) 4) Howell-Bey (SBW) 145 1) Manspeaker (Penn) 2) Ullery (SBR) 3) White (SBW) 4) Smous (Mish) 152 1) Ginter (Penn) 2) Nixon (SBC) 3) Jones (MIsh) 4) Navarro (SBR) 160 1) Kolat (SBW) 2) Stasiak (Penn) 3) Hack (SBR) 4) Proctor (Mish) 170 1) Bates (SBW) 2) Stevens (Penn) 3) Hunter (SBC) 4) Walter (Mish Marian) 182 1) Miller (SBC) 2) Crain (SBR) 3) Anderson (SBW) 4) Kazmerczak (SB St. Joe) 195 1) Skipper (SBA) 2) Allen (SBC) 3) Leed (LaVille) 4) Deering (Mish Marian) 220 1) Gallegos (SBC) 2) Reagan (Penn) 3) Eby (Mish) 4) Boyd (SBA) 285 1) Maggart (Penn) 2) Dozier (SBR) 3) Carr (SBC) 4) Boyd (SBA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbjemler Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 From a team score stand point, this could be one of the more interesting sectionals in many, many years. Overall, I think Penn wins the team score going away. However, the real stunner could be that Mishawaka High School could end up in 4th place at this sectional. I don't think they have ever placed that low. Clay is very tough and will probably be 2nd or 3rd. Riley is vastly underrated. If Riley was in almost any other conference without 3 ranked teams battling them, Riley probably would be ranked. So Riley also can place 2nd or 3rd. And Riley just beat Mishawaka in a dual meet 10 days ago. Mishawaka still has a bunch of excellent wrestlers. But Mishawaka lost some heavy hitters and replaced them with some weaker guys. Those weaker Mishawaka guys might allow Riley and/or Clay to score enough bonus points to place higher than Mishawaka. I also wonder about motivation with Mishawaka. I keep hearing several of their better guys are looking to transfer after this year because of all trouble at the school and in the program. Parts of hearing in Mishawaka wrestling case to be closed to public- http://www.wndu.com/localnews/headlines/Parts_of_hearing_in_Mishawaka_wrestling_case_to_be_closed_to_public_137925523.html As far as transfering goes, they better move. Don't think for a minute that the IHSAA won't figure that out pretty quickly. Problem for Mish with that is that there are soooo many quality programs in the area. It used to be that you would worry about Penn getting the Mish kids. But with Riley, Clay, Jimtown, Elk. Memorial, there are many schools these kids could end up at and fit in right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCard Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I think Riley should be ranked, I mean those are some "quality losses"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtown 138 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 As far as transfering goes, they better move. Don't think for a minute that the IHSAA won't figure that out pretty quickly. Problem for Mish with that is that there are soooo many quality programs in the area. It used to be that you would worry about Penn getting the Mish kids. But with Riley, Clay, Jimtown, Elk. Memorial, there are many schools these kids could end up at and fit in right away. Hey, maybe we'll get their 138 pounder to come back to Jimtown... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbjemler Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hey, maybe we'll get their 138 pounder to come back to Jimtown... Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hey, maybe we'll get their 138 pounder to come back to Jimtown... I was thinking the exact same thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlerBlack77 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Hey, maybe we'll get their 138 pounder to come back to Jimtown... Hahaha This makes me laugh cause they have my former coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragingbuttsack Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 All things considered.. if Mishawaka had their full lineup there wouldnt be a discussion. With that said, that lineup is in the past and they have what they have and hope for the best for all of the Cavemen! Such a tragedy to lose most of the team and one of the best coaches around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtown 138 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 All things considered.. if Mishawaka had their full lineup there wouldnt be a discussion. With that said, that lineup is in the past and they have what they have and hope for the best for all of the Cavemen! Such a tragedy to lose most of the team and one of the best coaches around. Who are they missing? I can think of one guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbjemler Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I was thinking the exact same thing! Mark Kerrn is an outstanding coach too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Who are they missing? I can think of one guy... 26, 60 82 95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Mark Kerrn is an outstanding coach too Can't argue with that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 All things considered.. if Mishawaka had their full lineup there wouldnt be a discussion. With that said, that lineup is in the past and they have what they have and hope for the best for all of the Cavemen! Such a tragedy to lose most of the team and one of the best coaches around. I believe they are missing 4-5 starters , not most of the team . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwkwrestler12 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I believe they are missing 4-5 starters , not most of the team . That's a possible swing of 48 points for four guys... And for this group, it is most of the team THEY NEED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther83 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Penn Still wins this Sectional, regardless if MHS had their full lineup in. It would be close, but Penn by 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MISHCAVEFAN Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Penn Still wins this Sectional, regardless if MHS had their full lineup in. It would be close, but Penn by 8. Are you serious?? I thought it would be close but after the dual I changed my mind. IMO full line-up vs full line-up Mishawaka by 15 or so. But that is not the case so best of luck Kingsmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther83 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I respect you opinion MishCaveFan, but we will agree to disagree on this, as Penn was not at full strength either at the time of the meet and was missing a few of their starters too. I still as an impartial observer contend that Penn would win the duel with both teams having all starters in the lineup, but unfortunetely we will never know. But good luck to all NIC Sectional teams this Saturday, there ought to be some great wrestling, and Mishawaka puts on a top notch sectional. Panther out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gameon5678 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 All one seeds should hold up just a few might change 106 Zach Davis 160 Joey Stasiak 182 Tyler Crain 285 Marcus Dozier Don't be surprised if 170 lbs goes to Mike Anderson (Riley). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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