LetItRide Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Totally agree... But margin could be closer (140)Mann vs. Hodge (145) Seiler vs. Appell (171) King vs. Warren ( toss up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmoney1 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 i think Keith from central will give singleton from GS and get fourth spot My money says Singleton will win first match by at least 5 points. I think he can also take the Mater Dei guy in the second round from what I have seen of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyb71 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 i think Keith from central will give singleton from GS and get fourth spot Hey Nostradamus, didn't you predict Singleton would finish 4th earlier in this thread? The great thing is this will get decided on the mat Saturday and not in a forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUST SAYIN Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 The johns and mastison match, I am sorry but it was called right down the middle. I have no connections to either wrestler, however I was happy to see someone finally give back to reitz what they have been doing for a while now. Do I think that mastison stalled yes, and in the same way that johns did in the second period. Yes, reitz does a good job of acting like they are working for some kind of position while riding but if you look closely all they do is lay on the hips so that the other wrestler cannot base up and play patty cake with the hands, so it looks like they are doing something. I also personally love watching reitz' coaching staff get all red faced and scream, " thats stalling" while the same is done to them the very next period. last year we had a wrestler in the very same situation and I told him to do the same thing the next period and had lots of fun watching the reitz' coaches get so furious over the same thing being done to them as they pulled the last period, all the way up until the ref. finally gave in to the coaches and warned our kid for doing the exact same thing as what was done to him. So I guess I am trying to say is all you people need to quit complaining because reitz has a good acting coach and harrison doesn't. It all comes down to this mastison new that johns would ride his hips through the period, and he did, so he gave him a taste of his own medicine and now you all think that medicine taste bitter. The only thing i can say is tell your kids to quit riding on peoples hip ( which all you refs. out there, so you know it doesn't matter what the kid is doing with his hands he has a 5 count to get off the hips and "T" up) to ride them out and maybe people will quit doing it to you. P.S. If your going to wine do it somewhere were people don't know what really happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB145 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 It's a shame that the draws put the top 2 112's on the same side in Johns and Goebel. Look for both of them to be wrestling at Conseco this year. I have noticed each weekend you have stated Johns is better than Mastison and will lose. Yet he doesn't? You have some deep dislike for the kid? He keeps beating him. But its always the refs fault or some other un-natural force of nature? Not sure will have to pay deep attention this weekend at regionals if they meet up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 Just Sayin, I'm not sure who NiceShot is but he/she does have a fascination with the Mastison / Johns match-up. You seem to have some deep rooted issues with the Reitz coaching staff. From looking at your past posts you are likely from Mt. Vernon. On a positive note, Konrath showed great sportsmanship after the championship match at Sectionals. You could tell he was disappointed but had that "I will see you again next week" look on his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatChick76 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 While everyone seems to be talking about Mastison, I have to ask...where did that record of his come from? In looking through the other Harrison kid's records, they didn't seem to wrestle nearly as many matches as him. Did he go to some special tournaments or something? Just thought I'd ask since I've been curious and there seem to be some Mastison fans in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNextDynasty Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 which all you refs. out there, so you know it doesn't matter what the kid is doing with his hands he has a 5 count to get off the hips and "T" up) Can you show me where in the rule book it states that you have a 5 count to get off the hips? If you've noticed in recent years Reitz guys have been pinning a lot of guys with what has become known as the "Reitz stack" where the head is stuffed under straight to their back. This move is done from being on the guy's hips. In my opinon, stalling on top isn't about riding the hips. It's about the lack of attempts of pinning combinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laserbeam26 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Hey Nostradamus, didn't you predict Singleton would finish 4th earlier in this thread? The great thing is this will get decided on the mat Saturday and not in a forum. i was rushed making my predictions that is why i had singleton in front of him. but your right saturday we will know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polytropos Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 While everyone seems to be talking about Mastison, I have to ask...where did that record of his come from? In looking through the other Harrison kid's records, they didn't seem to wrestle nearly as many matches as him. Did he go to some special tournaments or something? Just thought I'd ask since I've been curious and there seem to be some Mastison fans in the room. He likely gets a lot of extra matches by advancing far in the tournaments they have participated in. While I confess that I do not know much about the current state of Harrison wrestling, I would bet that there aren't too many others on his team that make it to the finals on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rabbit Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I know Harrison is in the Turkey Classic and also obviously the Harrison 10 way, so right there with 2 meets is approx 18 matches. And I would guess that most of the time Harrison didn't wrestle with a full line-up due to injuries, sickness, family issues, you name it, etc so that could be why most kids on there team don't have as many matches as Mastison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceshot Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 While everyone seems to be talking about Mastison, I have to ask...where did that record of his come from? In looking through the other Harrison kid's records, they didn't seem to wrestle nearly as many matches as him. Did he go to some special tournaments or something? Just thought I'd ask since I've been curious and there seem to be some Mastison fans in the room. Are the coaches trying to pad his record to get him a better seed for the tournaments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosseallstar812 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Regionals are baseed on how you did at sectionals idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjam Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 harrison schedule turkey classic 8 matches castle invite 5 matches harrison 10 way 9 matches madison invite 8 matches sullivan invite 5 matches memorial invite 2-5 matches (mastison won it with 3 matches) duals with ev. central, ev. bosse, ev. md(cancelled), north posey. thats possible 44 matches on the season mastison entered siac with 41 matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justind283 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 just sayin so you are sayin all the reffs at every reitz match dont know what they are doin you just made yourself sound stupid. if you dont like what they do that bad maybe you should coach your kids a little from the neutral position so they dont get takin down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyb71 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 i was rushed making my predictions that is why i had singleton in front of him. but your right saturday we will know Were you at BWW with Jon H when you made those...........LOL (see his original post). Will be some good matches for sure. Looks like we should luck out with all the nasty weather missing us and all the school closings up north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryirishman Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Regionals are baseed on how you did at sectionals idiot I think she meant tourneys in general...No need to be so harsh p.s. I love the pun in your forum name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laserbeam26 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 what do you figure team placing will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laserbeam26 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 if there was team placing haha ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(That Guy) Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Regionals are baseed on how you did at sectionals idiot Don't think that was necessary? Don't have to be that mad that any bosse wrestlers aren't competing in regionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(That Guy) Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Can you show me where in the rule book it states that you have a 5 count to get off the hips? If you've noticed in recent years Reitz guys have been pinning a lot of guys with what has become known as the "Reitz stack" where the head is stuffed under straight to their back. This move is done from being on the guy's hips. In my opinon, stalling on top isn't about riding the hips. It's about the lack of attempts of pinning combinations. Well it is a rule that your not suppose to ride the hips. Riding the hips is considered stalling, so therefore it wouldn't be 5 seconds but it's still a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Well it is a rule that your not suppose to ride the hips. Riding the hips is considered stalling, so therefore it wouldn't be 5 seconds but it's still a rule. It's not a rule, per se--but staying on the hips is strongly spoken against in the rulebook and should be recognized as stalling when no attempt at a fall is being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoneguy Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 In my opinion on all of this hip stuff, it is NOT a 5 second rule on the hip, and that would be a way to fast call for stalling, but maybe a 10-15 second rule becuase it is a way to stall and after 10-15 seconds if you not working on a pin then you gotta try something else and let the bottom guy work as well. Also as far as weight classes go I'm really looking forward to watching 119, (stacked with Vanhook beating Wedding really throws a curveball), 130, Hoehn looking like the solid winner but 2nd, 3rd, 4th are all jump balls in my eyes. Mangold vs. Brown match will be great, then the loser of that vs. Kelley for 3rd will be another heart pounder; then 171, Just being a great weight class. After looking at seedings im thinking it will be: 103: Kuhn (clearly), Seng 112: Goebal (however you spell it), mastison, johns, (PR kid) 119: Im not gonna even try and guess this, will just have to watch and find out 125: Griemier, Henderson, Moody 130: Hoehn, rest is all toss ups 135: Konrath, Dowdy, Shreoder (again spelling?) 140: Rueger, Lannert, Mann, Keith 145: Whetstine (spelling?), Cahmberlain, Rigss 152&160 are already spelled out for us, easily Whelch fallowed by the 2 MDs 171: Toss up but i think MD comes on top 189: easily boots unless Memorial guy comes to wrestle this time 215: easily MD followed by prolly Schnarr 285: again- sad to say- easily MD followed by O'Connel, then Hoehl, then possibly the NP guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoneguy Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Also, I have picked on this Freshman before about dropping the ball and after watching him first roound of sectionals loose to Schnar and fall apart; I thought i couldnt have been more right. Then it seemed as if something set off a spark or something because he came back to wrestle Bevers from Memorial (who beat him in OT at SIAC) and ripped him apart, Bevers tried to rough him up a bit it seemed and Kelley just took it to him with a Major, then for 3rd he wrestled Schnar again and took it to him, put him on his back twice and was majoring him when he stuck him. Not saying he will beat Hoehn by any means but if he comes to wrestle at regionals he may be a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md85 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I think you forgot Stein at 171. :-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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