OTMF74 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Speaking of women's wrestling, did anyone see Sara Mcmann get screwed out of winning another US Open title? If not Youtube US Open 2010 Sara Mcmann The Clinch, possible the worst call I've ever seen in my life! Check it out and tell me what you think?! It doesn't show it all but apparently at first the reward Sara with two then, after a film review they still agree that its still two, as they are raising Sara's hand to declare her the winner the head official comes running over to the mat and signals to the ref not to raise Sara's hand, and to raise the other girls hand. The coaches demanded to know what the call was, and how they scored it, but the official wouldn't tell them, sounds political if you ask me?? (this is the story I was told by Sara herself, and her corner coach, Trent Goodale) ps they refused to show the match on Big Ten Network as well, and demanded that flow nor themat release it online either, luckily it was posted by a friend who was taping the match. pretty odd that USA Wrestling wouldn't want that match shown, while all the other finals matches were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I thought they did show the match on the original Big 10 showing? Though I could be thinking of another match. I would assume FloWrestling video taped what it was able to but couldn't catch every match. I'm also guessing, USA Wrestling may not be posting any of the final matches online until after theoriginal Big 10 TV spots have aired. From the Big 10 showing I thought I watched. On the replay and commentary I believe they said Sarah's opponent scored a point on as they fell to the mat just proir to McMann's scoring her coutner points. Not saying I think that is the right call but that is what I believe Van Stokes and Ken Chertow concluded the judges said. If I'm not mistaken they did show Tom Clark discussing the video with other officials before the final call was made. Maybe he would able to enlighten us on what was decided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMF74 Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 Yes your right I apologize they did show it on the original cast, but then took it OFF the big ten network, my apology. If i am able to post it correct here is how it went, you tell me what you think?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 From the broadcast they pointed the officials may have felt her sideways position between the 6-7 second mark as being enough to get the takedown or back exposure point (McMann's shoulders do slightly turn for a split second). Then you could say Sara scored a back exposure just fractions of a second after. Obviously at first glance it doesn't look like much bause even the replay if not the definative as far as the takedown goes. However, I do tend to think the multiple judges have a better eye for those things than I usually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMF74 Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 hmmm....i just don't see it, it doesn't look like a legitimate take down, but its not my call obviously the judges, i just know that the outside referee's agreed with the two for sara, and agreed again after the review...def not taking anything away from the other girl, she wrestled tough..I just don't see take down before the two, but that's just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chambers Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 From the broadcast they pointed her her sideways position between the 6-7 second mark as being enough to get the takedown point. Then Sara scored the back exposure just fractions of a second after. Obviously at first glance it doesn't look like much bause even the replay if not the definative as far as the takedown goes. However, I do tend to think the multiple judges have a better eye for those things than I usually do. The sideways position maybe would get the takedown points in a folkstyle match because she supported herself with her hands. In freestyle it is not a takedown when the weight is supported on the hands and feet. One knee would have to be down on the mat before a takedown point is earned. Her knees never went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julio Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Looks like 2 blue to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I see the two for blue also, she kind of hip whips her over. I would have scored it for blue, then red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyt Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Two blue. The only explanation I can see is they say Sara posts her hand off the clinch which to me should not be one. You should have to hit a hip, butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltHarris Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 It's overtime in this freestyle match, which means first score wins and ends the period. I would have scored it Blue 2. I see no scorable action for red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinedad Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I gotta score 2 blue on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMF74 Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 I'm glad to see that the state of Indiana's fans still know how to call a correct "2", now all we gotta do is help those head official's in USA Wrestling ;D Thanks for the input guys....keep em' coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMF74 Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 Good question "MattM!" What do you say Tom Clark could you help us out on how the scoring went?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooke Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 This same topic is being discussed here... http://iowa.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=813&tid=133440811&mid=133440811&sid=940&style=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMAWRESTLER Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Good question "MattM!" What do you say Tom Clark could you help us out on how the scoring went?! What would Tom clark say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeBoWrestler130 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Yeah that was 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTMF74 Posted May 7, 2010 Author Share Posted May 7, 2010 "If I'm not mistaken they did show Tom Clark discussing the video with other officials before the final call was made. Maybe he would able to enlighten us on what was decided." - MATTM. ... If he was there maybe he could help us out with how they came up with the reds "1." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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