Inthecave Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Can Mish. do in 2011 like Crown Point did this year , by winning a State Championship and be competitive the following year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I have a feeling Mishawaka is always going to be competitive. Don't know the particulars of who they have coming back, but my bet would be they have a great team again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin2win1 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Can Mish. do in 2011 like Crown Point did this year , by winning a State Championship and be competitive the following year ? First off, didn't Mishawaka do that on 08 and 09? I mean win state and then be a contender again? That being said, mishawaka is going to have a tough time getting through Penn next year. Penn's team was young and gave a senior dominated mishawaka team some great competition. I think next year penn might be down at team state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhsfan09 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 First off, didn't Mishawaka do that on 08 and 09? I mean win state and then be a contender again? That being said, mishawaka is going to have a tough time getting through Penn next year. Penn's team was young and gave a senior dominated mishawaka team some great competition. I think next year penn might be down at team state. agree but i would never count out a team coached by snyder. he will get guys ready and guys will step up and do their jobs. but i agree penn next year has a great shot at a run at team next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
former130 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Can Mish. do in 2011 like Crown Point did this year , by winning a State Championship and be competitive the following year ? Depends what next years recruiting class looks like. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy barty Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Depends what next years recruiting class looks like. ;) Now thats funny ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltHarris Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Depends what next years recruiting class looks like. ;) Damn fine humor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Just a thought... I can see Mishawaka getting 4th or 5th at the Traicoff losing to Penn in a close match 2nd or 3rd at the Al Smith being very, very competitive in the Bellmont Super Duals (maybe going 4-1 or even 5-0) and in the end win a close sectional with Penn and move on to Team State. What I am trying to say is, at the beginning of the year we will be talking about how down they are from this year(which shouldn't surprise anyone since they have 9-10 seniors) and then at the end of the year talking about how much they have improved because they will have so many new guys at the beginning of the year(and I'm guessing 2 or 3 first year guys qualify for state) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuneFan Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I might have missed it, but out of the nine placers how many stood on the top stair of the podium? I think Lentz showed poor sportmanship after his loss to Cleveland also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duck_and_run Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Mish has to go out and beat Yorktown before they should be talking about a second state title. In heads up matchups at state Mish didn't fair to well. 0-3 by my calculations but whos counting. Also there was some bonus points in there at 130, I doubt that happens next weekend but you never know. I am not sure what happend to Hiestand at 135 but he took Norton to OT and was the aggressor. Could be a real rocking finals I still have Mish winning but they shouldn't get ahead of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsmaker Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Thanks DecBell, I like your optimism, but I think we may be down next year losing so many starters. But the program/jv/frosh is solid, so hopefully the younger kids can step up next year. DuneFan, we (non-region but M'Ville allies) always root for the Region and everybody up our way because we know we go through the toughest schedules/dual tourney's/individual tourney's around. Why so negative on the Cavemen? None stood on top of the podium this year, for the first time in 4 years, but we had one or two (or 9) standing on the podium at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhsfan09 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I might have missed it, but out of the nine placers how many stood on the top stair of the podium? I think Lentz showed poor sportmanship after his loss to Cleveland also. how many guys had 3+ guys on the podium? nobody is talking how good individuals are here, but they are losing a lot of state placers. and how did he show poor sportsmanship? he lost in the championship and was upset because there were many close non-calls where they didnt go his way. not saying cleveland isnt deserving but when lentz is in the process of putting him on his back and basically has a reversal, i feel that is an escape from the guy on top IMO... just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuneFan Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Oddsmaker: This was meant for other members of the board that say the only reason the Merrillville semi-state has the most winners is because of the Mishawaka-South Bend area. The 6 winners our semi-state had were all from the region. It actually should have been 7 had the Yorktown Heavyweight been called for stalling which is all he did the whole match. I don't think the Cavemen will have any problem winning another team state title. I just hope CP gives them a better battle than they did at the Traicoff, but I don't see any team coming close to them. Sorry if I came across as being anti-Cavemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 It actually should have been 7 had the Yorktown Heavyweight been called for stalling which is all he did the whole match. lol, you guys never stop Maybe if Travis had tried wrestling the entire match like he did the last :15 he would have won.................. Janney got the single leg and won the match with it, let it go....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Campbell Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Mishawaka is tough, and will be tough. Although Penn is getting tougher every day!!! That's some good wrestling coming from a relatively small area!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddsmaker Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Oddsmaker: This was meant for other members of the board that say the only reason the Merrillville semi-state has the most winners is because of the Mishawaka-South Bend area. The 6 winners our semi-state had were all from the region. It actually should have been 7 had the Yorktown Heavyweight been called for stalling which is all he did the whole match. I don't think the Cavemen will have any problem winning another team state title. I just hope CP gives them a better battle than they did at the Traicoff, but I don't see any team coming close to them. Sorry if I came across as being anti-Cavemen. My bad Dune, thanks. I'm glad we go against the region in so many tourneys, makes us tougher by the end of the year! I still am worried about how we match up with Yorktown though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Oddsmaker: This was meant for other members of the board that say the only reason the Merrillville semi-state has the most winners is because of the Mishawaka-South Bend area. The 6 winners our semi-state had were all from the region. It actually should have been 7 had the Yorktown Heavyweight been called for stalling which is all he did the whole match. I don't think the Cavemen will have any problem winning another team state title. I just hope CP gives them a better battle than they did at the Traicoff, but I don't see any team coming close to them. Sorry if I came across as being anti-Cavemen. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, then every day would be Christmas! Janney won the match fair and square. He converted a single leg takedown for the only takedown of the match. Be happy with your semi-state winning their 6 championships and just accept it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpa Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, then every day would be Christmas! Janney won the match fair and square. He converted a single leg takedown for the only takedown of the match. Be happy with your semi-state winning their 6 championships and just accept it! Janney never got a takedown--he got 2 escapes and one penalty point--for fleeing the mat--when he had the one leg--getting a penalty point is a far cry from a takedown.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MISHCAVEFAN Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Sort of projecting Mishawka's line-up next year they may be better than many are thinking. Reinhoel and Stoneburner will both step in and be very very competitve. Sidney Logan could cause some noise next year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHD27 Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 how many guys had 3+ guys on the podium? nobody is talking how good individuals are here, but they are losing a lot of state placers. and how did he show poor sportsmanship? he lost in the championship and was upset because there were many close non-calls where they didnt go his way. not saying cleveland isnt deserving but when lentz is in the process of putting him on his back and basically has a reversal, i feel that is an escape from the guy on top IMO... just sayin It was called a reversal (then changed to an escape) in the semi-final Welch-Bennett match. But I guess you have to be in sudden death overtime to get that call..just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Janney never got a takedown--he got 2 escapes and one penalty point--for fleeing the mat--when he had the one leg--getting a penalty point is a far cry from a takedown.. I stand corrected on Janney not getting a takedown. I guess the ref determined that he would have had a takedown, had Travis not dove out of bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M109R Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 Mishawaka is tough, and will be tough. Although Penn is getting tougher every day!!! That's some good wrestling coming from a relatively small area!!! Penn will be real tough from 103-152 . They will be solid at 215 with returning junior SQ Devin Reagan . The main holes to fill will be at 160,171,285 (Kunzee, Wiseman, johnson). I would not count Mishawaka out just yet . Look at the number of studs they lost last year, including multable state champions Sandefer and Harper . And look what they managed to put together this year . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awood10 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Penn will be real tough from 103-152 . They will be solid at 215 with returning junior SQ Devin Reagan . The main holes to fill will be at 160,171,285 (Kunzee, Wiseman, johnson). I would not count Mishawaka out just yet . Look at the number of studs they lost last year, including multable state champions Sandefer and Harper . And look what they managed to put together this year . did harper win a state title last year? didnt think so. and agreed that there are holes to fill but mishawaka has some hole to fill as well dont count out penn. one last coment at the penn vs mishawaka duel penn's jv team had tthe win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MISHCAVEFAN Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Pretty sure the JV went 1-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowawrestlingfan Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 did harper win a state title last year? didnt think so. and agreed that there are holes to fill but mishawaka has some hole to fill as well dont count out penn. one last coment at the penn vs mishawaka duel penn's jv team had tthe win Was he a three time state champ? Yea i thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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