Boot Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 So here are the results from Crown Point and Mishawaka at Traicoff. What matches could swing the other way? Will it be close? Can Crown Point pull the upset? I already know all the Mishawaka fans will say no, they're untouchable, etc. but I think it has the potential to be closer this time. What do you think? Mishawaka 42 CP 17 189 Kral CP dec Abu-shehab 6-1 3-0 215 Lentz Mish pin Hannon 3-6 Hwt Thomas Mish pin Swope 3-12 103 Martsolf Mish ded Saroff 4-2 3-15 112 Beck Mish fft 3-21 119 Hawkins CP dec Binion 3-1 6-21 125 Wisler Mish dec Dusty Schurg 6-1 6-24 130 Tsirtsis CP dec Schrader 3-1 9-24 135 Guerra Mish dec Dallas Schurg 5-2 9-27 140 Flamme CP dec Eddy 4-2 12-27 145 Roach CP tech Reinhohl 21-5 17-27 152 Stahl Mish pin Renn 17-33 160 White Mish dec Cope 6-3 17-36 171 Morin Mish pin Langbehn 17-42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash513 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 So here are the results from Crown Point and Mishawaka at Traicoff. What matches could swing the other way? Will it be close? Can Crown Point pull the upset? I already know all the Mishawaka fans will say no, they're untouchable, etc. but I think it has the potential to be closer this time. What do you think? Mishawaka 42 CP 17 189 Kral CP dec Abu-shehab 6-1 3-0 215 Lentz Mish pin Hannon 3-6 Hwt Thomas Mish pin Swope 3-12 103 Martsolf Mish ded Saroff 4-2 3-15 112 Beck Mish fft 3-21 119 Hawkins CP dec Binion 3-1 6-21 125 Wisler Mish dec Dusty Schurg 6-1 6-24 130 Tsirtsis CP dec Schrader 3-1 9-24 135 Guerra Mish dec Dallas Schurg 5-2 9-27 140 Flamme CP dec Eddy 4-2 12-27 145 Roach CP tech Reinhohl 21-5 17-27 152 Stahl Mish pin Renn 17-33 160 White Mish dec Cope 6-3 17-36 171 Morin Mish pin Langbehn 17-42 Maybe a few more bonus points for CP...the only match I can see going the other was would be Saroff over Martsolf. Could see something like 35-25 Mish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 If CP can avoid getting pinned and swing 103 it will be a lot closer. And there was rumor of White having some injury, was that bogus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 Here's a big, what if, not sure how likely it is, but it's a chance for CP: 103 Saroff CP dec Martsolf 3-0 112 Beck Mish mdec ? 3-4 119 Hawkins CP mdec Binion 7-4 125 Wisler Mish dec Dusty Schurg 7-7 130 Tsirtsis CP mdec Schrader 11-7 135 Guerra Mish dec Dallas Schurg 11-10 140 Flamme CP mdec Eddy 15-10 145 Roach CP pin Reinhohl 21-10 152 Stahl Mish tech Renn 21-15 160 White Mish dec Cope 21-18 171 Morin Mish mdec Langbehn 21-22 189 Kral CP mdec Abu-shehab 25-22 215 Lentz Mish mdec Hannon 25-26 Hwt Thomas Mish mdec Swope 25-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash513 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 103 Saroff dec Martzlof 0-3 112 Beck Mish pin 6-3 119 Hawkins CP dec Binion 6-6 125 Wisler Mish dec Dusty Schurg 9-6 130 Tsirtsis CP dec Schrader 9-9 135 Guerra Mish dec Dallas Schurg 12-9 140 Flamme CP maj dec Eddy 12-13 145 Roach CP pin ??? 12-19 152 Stahl Mish pin Renn 18-19 160 White Mish dec Cope 21-19 171 Morin Mish pin Langbehn 27-19 189 Kral CP dec Abu-shehab 27-22 215 Lentz Mish pin Hannon 33-22 Hwt Thomas Mish pin Swope 39-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 I think you have the more likely scenario there. It has the potential to be even uglier for CP unless Vlink and his men can get some huge upsets and pins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash513 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 103 Saroff pin Martzlof 0-6 112 Beck Mish maj ??? 4-6 119 Hawkins CP majdec Binion 6-10 125 Wisler Mish dec Dusty Schurg 9-10 130 Tsirtsis CP pin Schrader 9-16 135 Dallas Schurg dec Guerra Mish 9-19 140 Flamme CP pin Eddy 9-25 145 Roach CP pin ??? 9-31 152 Stahl Mish maj Renn 13-31 160 White Mish dec Cope 16-31 171 Morin Mish pin Langbehn 22-31 189 Kral CP dec Abu-shehab 22-34 215 Lentz Mish pin Hannon 28-34 Hwt Thomas Mish pin Swope 34-34 CP wins with more falls... this seems to be the ONLY way CP pulls it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 I don't know anything about Swope, can he keep from getting pinned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash513 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I don't know anything about Swope, can he keep from getting pinned? Not from what I've seen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-train Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 what was the score of the stahl vs. renn match at semi-state in the ticket round? i don't think that it was by a major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royboy74 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 The only chance is if he weighs in Dallas and Tsirtsis both at 130, then send Tsirtsis up to take out Guerra. Also weigh in Renn and Roach both at 145 and send Roach up to take out Stahl. Other than that, there's not much hope for CP to pull this one off and I doubt any of these moves will be made so who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 The only chance is if he weighs in Dallas and Tsirtsis both at 130, then send Tsirtsis up to take out Guerra. Also weigh in Renn and Roach both at 145 and send Roach up to take out Stahl. Other than that, there's not much hope for CP to pull this one off and I doubt any of these moves will be made so who cares. You can't just weigh wrestlers in at random weights, can you? They have to be certified, right? Are Schurg and Renn certified at those weights? I could be totally wrong. It just seems right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach77 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I think an interesting aspect of this may be the lay-off for some of the wrestlers. With Mishawaka having 10 kids go to state and CP only 4 how will it effect them since some of these kids have not wrestled in a live match since the individual regional unlike in years past when they had to wrestle in the team semi-state the week before individual semi-state. Is the live competition better or is it going to be rest and recovery, should be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuneFan Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Bash 513: In your unlikely scenario you have Kral winning at 189, but give the 3 points to Mishawaka. I do think it will be closer this time, but not within 10 points. I certainly would like to be wrong, but I just can't see it. Next year might be a different story, although I think Penn will be the team to beat from the South Bend area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash513 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Bash 513: In your unlikely scenario you have Kral winning at 189, but give the 3 points to Mishawaka. I do think it will be closer this time, but not within 10 points. I certainly would like to be wrong, but I just can't see it. Next year might be a different story, although I think Penn will be the team to beat from the South Bend area No I didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inthecave Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I heard at Semi State that Crown Points 103 may not even wrestle because of grade problems , any truth to that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin2win1 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I'll take the team that sends 10 to state over the team that sends 4 almost any day. But when they both come out of the same semi-state, well i'll take the team that sends 10 any day. I think Yorktown is the only team with a decent shot of beating mishawaka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedsister Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I heard at Semi State that Crown Points 103 may not even wrestle because of grade problems , any truth to that ? No. Also, Not sure if Swope will be back for Semi-State. Not that that would even make a difference. No matter who they put out will get pinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhsfan09 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Here's a big, what if, not sure how likely it is, but it's a chance for CP: 103 Saroff CP dec Martsolf 3-0 112 Beck Mish mdec ? 3-4 119 Hawkins CP mdec Binion 7-4 125 Wisler Mish dec Dusty Schurg 7-7 130 Tsirtsis CP mdec Schrader 11-7 135 Guerra Mish dec Dallas Schurg 11-10 140 Flamme CP mdec Eddy 15-10 145 Roach CP pin Reinhohl 21-10 152 Stahl Mish tech Renn 21-15 160 White Mish dec Cope 21-18 171 Morin Mish mdec Langbehn 21-22 189 Kral CP mdec Abu-shehab 25-22 215 Lentz Mish mdec Hannon 25-26 Hwt Thomas Mish mdec Swope 25-30 Before you point out the fact that I am a Mishawaka fan please disregard that fact. IMHO 215-HWT are 12-0 for Mish. in this scenario you took all bonus points away from Mish and gave CP almost unrealistic bonus points. Danny Abu can swing his match with the way he has been wrestling to get to state. Schrader has shown he can keep with Tsirtsis and Martsolf will be well and rested for team state. I agree twith whoever said it i believe that Yorktown is the only team with a legitimate claim to contend with Mishawaka. Just an opinion though. Not saying the other teams arent good enough, just that I dont think they have made up that kind of a gap to stop a team that is sending 10 individuals to state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSU141 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 i believe the cavemen will win. if you qualify 10 for state, you should beat anybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-train Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 i believe the cavemen will win. if you qualify 10 for state, you should beat anybody \ that is the bottom line. as much as i would like to see c.p. repeat, i don' t think that it is likely. i will still be rooting for them, but if i were in vegas, i wouldn't put my paycheck on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awood10 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 you have got to be kidding me crown poit is going to turn it on tsirtsis will pin hawkins will major he beat gregory-(whose was throwing up all day will be better at state)-saroff will major lost ticket round semi martsolf lost to a girl in sectionals. plus white might not wrestle and 145 is weak lost to davenport! wont even be CLOSE THAT"S THE BOTTOM LINE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhsfan09 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 you have got to be kidding me crown poit is going to turn it on tsirtsis will pin hawkins will major he beat gregory-(whose was throwing up all day will be better at state)-saroff will major lost ticket round semi martsolf lost to a girl in sectionals. plus white might not wrestle and 145 is weak lost to davenport! wont even be CLOSE THAT"S THE BOTTOM LINE! tsirtsis wont pin, binion beat gregory as well. and saroff would lose to sarah. you are right though it wont be close just in a different way bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regionrat1 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Closer dis time dan last/ but caveman are too deeeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awood10 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 saroff wont lose to sarah i saw them wrestle last year jv wasnt a major but that was when he was 93 pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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