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So here are the results from Crown Point and Mishawaka at Traicoff. What matches could swing the other way? Will it be close? Can Crown Point pull the upset? I already know all the Mishawaka fans will say no, they're untouchable, etc. but I think it has the potential to be closer this time. What do you think?

 

Mishawaka  42  CP  17

189  Kral  CP  dec Abu-shehab  6-1                          3-0

215  Lentz  Mish  pin  Hannon                                    3-6

Hwt  Thomas  Mish  pin Swope                                  3-12

103  Martsolf  Mish  ded Saroff  4-2                          3-15

112  Beck  Mish    fft                                                        3-21

119  Hawkins  CP  dec Binion  3-1                              6-21

125  Wisler  Mish  dec Dusty Schurg  6-1                6-24

130  Tsirtsis  CP  dec  Schrader  3-1                        9-24

135  Guerra  Mish  dec Dallas Schurg  5-2              9-27

140  Flamme  CP  dec Eddy  4-2                                12-27

145  Roach  CP  tech Reinhohl    21-5                      17-27

152  Stahl  Mish  pin Renn                                          17-33

160  White  Mish  dec Cope  6-3                                17-36

171  Morin  Mish  pin Langbehn                                17-42

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So here are the results from Crown Point and Mishawaka at Traicoff. What matches could swing the other way? Will it be close? Can Crown Point pull the upset? I already know all the Mishawaka fans will say no, they're untouchable, etc. but I think it has the potential to be closer this time. What do you think?

 

Mishawaka  42  CP  17

189  Kral  CP  dec Abu-shehab   6-1                           3-0

215  Lentz  Mish  pin  Hannon                                    3-6

Hwt  Thomas  Mish  pin Swope                                   3-12

103  Martsolf  Mish  ded Saroff   4-2                          3-15

112  Beck  Mish    fft                                                        3-21

119  Hawkins  CP  dec Binion  3-1                              6-21

125  Wisler  Mish  dec Dusty Schurg  6-1                6-24

130  Tsirtsis  CP   dec  Schrader   3-1                        9-24

135  Guerra  Mish  dec Dallas Schurg  5-2              9-27

140  Flamme  CP  dec Eddy  4-2                                12-27

145  Roach  CP  tech Reinhohl    21-5                       17-27

152  Stahl  Mish  pin Renn                                          17-33

160  White  Mish  dec Cope  6-3                                 17-36

171  Morin  Mish  pin Langbehn                                17-42

 

Maybe a few more bonus points for CP...the only match I can see going the other was would be Saroff over Martsolf.  Could see something like 35-25 Mish

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Here's a big, what if, not sure how likely it is, but it's a chance for CP:

 

103  Saroff CP dec Martsolf                                        3-0

112  Beck  Mish    mdec ?                                            3-4

119  Hawkins  CP  mdec Binion                                7-4

125  Wisler  Mish  dec Dusty Schurg                        7-7

130  Tsirtsis  CP  mdec  Schrader                            11-7

135  Guerra  Mish  dec Dallas Schurg                      11-10

140  Flamme  CP mdec Eddy                                    15-10

145  Roach  CP  pin Reinhohl                                    21-10

152  Stahl  Mish  tech Renn                                        21-15

160  White  Mish  dec Cope                                      21-18

171  Morin  Mish  mdec Langbehn                            21-22

189  Kral  CP  mdec Abu-shehab                              25-22

215  Lentz  Mish  mdec  Hannon                              25-26

Hwt  Thomas  Mish  mdec Swope                            25-30

 

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103  Saroff dec Martzlof                                                 0-3

112  Beck  Mish   pin                                                        6-3

119  Hawkins  CP  dec Binion                                      6-6

125  Wisler  Mish  dec Dusty Schurg                        9-6

130  Tsirtsis  CP   dec  Schrader                                 9-9

135  Guerra  Mish  dec Dallas Schurg                     12-9

140  Flamme  CP maj dec Eddy                                12-13

145  Roach  CP  pin ???                                                 12-19

152  Stahl  Mish  pin Renn                                          18-19

160  White  Mish  dec Cope                                         21-19

171  Morin  Mish  pin Langbehn                                27-19

189  Kral  CP  dec Abu-shehab                                    27-22

215  Lentz  Mish  pin  Hannon                                    33-22

Hwt  Thomas  Mish  pin Swope                                   39-22

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103  Saroff pin Martzlof                                                 0-6

112  Beck  Mish  maj   ???                                               4-6

119  Hawkins  CP  majdec Binion                               6-10

125  Wisler  Mish  dec Dusty Schurg                        9-10

130  Tsirtsis  CP   pin  Schrader                                 9-16

135  Dallas Schurg  dec Guerra  Mish                     9-19

140  Flamme  CP pin  Eddy                                        9-25

145  Roach  CP  pin ???                                                 9-31

152  Stahl  Mish  maj Renn                                          13-31

160  White  Mish  dec Cope                                         16-31

171  Morin  Mish  pin Langbehn                                22-31

189  Kral  CP  dec Abu-shehab                                    22-34

215  Lentz  Mish  pin  Hannon                                    28-34

Hwt  Thomas  Mish  pin Swope                                   34-34

 

CP wins with more falls... this seems to be the ONLY way CP pulls it off

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The only chance is if he weighs in Dallas and Tsirtsis both at 130, then send Tsirtsis up to take out Guerra.  Also weigh in Renn and Roach both at 145 and send Roach up to take out Stahl.  Other than that, there's not much hope for CP to pull this one off and I doubt any of these moves will be made so who cares.

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The only chance is if he weighs in Dallas and Tsirtsis both at 130, then send Tsirtsis up to take out Guerra.  Also weigh in Renn and Roach both at 145 and send Roach up to take out Stahl.  Other than that, there's not much hope for CP to pull this one off and I doubt any of these moves will be made so who cares.

 

You can't just weigh wrestlers in at random weights, can you?  They have to be certified, right?  Are Schurg and Renn certified at those weights?  I could be totally wrong.  It just seems right. 

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I think an interesting aspect of this may be the lay-off for some of the wrestlers.  With Mishawaka having 10 kids go to state and CP only 4 how will it effect them since some of these kids have not wrestled in a live match since the individual regional unlike in years past when they had to wrestle in the team semi-state the week before individual semi-state.  Is the live competition better or is it going to be rest and recovery, should be very interesting.

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Bash 513:

 

    In your unlikely scenario you have Kral winning at 189, but give the 3 points to Mishawaka. 

  I do think it will be closer this time, but not within 10 points.  I certainly would like to be wrong, but I just can't see it.

  Next year might be a different story, although I think Penn will be the team to beat from the South Bend

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Bash 513:

 

    In your unlikely scenario you have Kral winning at 189, but give the 3 points to Mishawaka. 

   I do think it will be closer this time, but not within 10 points.  I certainly would like to be wrong, but I just can't see it.

  Next year might be a different story, although I think Penn will be the team to beat from the South Bend

  area

 

No I didn't

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I'll take the team that sends 10 to state over the team that sends 4 almost any day. But when they both come out of the same semi-state, well i'll take the team that sends 10 any day.

 

I think Yorktown is the only team with a decent shot of beating mishawaka.

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Here's a big, what if, not sure how likely it is, but it's a chance for CP:

 

103  Saroff CP dec Martsolf                                        3-0

112  Beck  Mish    mdec ?                                             3-4

119  Hawkins  CP  mdec Binion                                 7-4

125  Wisler  Mish  dec Dusty Schurg                        7-7

130  Tsirtsis  CP   mdec  Schrader                            11-7

135  Guerra  Mish  dec Dallas Schurg                       11-10

140  Flamme  CP mdec Eddy                                    15-10

145  Roach  CP  pin Reinhohl                                     21-10

152  Stahl  Mish  tech Renn                                        21-15

160  White  Mish  dec Cope                                       21-18

171  Morin  Mish  mdec Langbehn                            21-22

189  Kral  CP  mdec Abu-shehab                               25-22

215  Lentz  Mish  mdec  Hannon                               25-26

Hwt  Thomas  Mish  mdec Swope                             25-30

 

 

Before you point out the fact that I am a Mishawaka fan please disregard that fact. IMHO 215-HWT are 12-0 for Mish. in this scenario you took all bonus points away from Mish and gave CP almost unrealistic bonus points. Danny Abu can swing his match with the way he has been wrestling to get to state. Schrader has shown he can keep with Tsirtsis and Martsolf will be well and rested for team state. I agree twith whoever said it i believe that Yorktown is the only team with a legitimate claim to contend with Mishawaka. Just an opinion though. Not saying the other teams arent good enough, just that I dont think they have made up that kind of a gap to stop a team that is sending 10 individuals to state

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i believe the cavemen will win. if you qualify 10 for state, you should beat anybody

 

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that is the bottom line.  as much as i would like to see c.p. repeat, i don' t think that it is likely. 

 

i will still be rooting for them, but if i were in vegas, i wouldn't put my paycheck on it!

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you have got to be kidding me crown poit is going to turn it on tsirtsis will pin hawkins will major he beat gregory-(whose was throwing up all day will be better at state)-saroff will major lost ticket round semi martsolf lost to a girl in sectionals. plus white might not wrestle and 145 is weak lost to davenport! wont even be CLOSE THAT"S THE BOTTOM LINE!

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you have got to be kidding me crown poit is going to turn it on tsirtsis will pin hawkins will major he beat gregory-(whose was throwing up all day will be better at state)-saroff will major lost ticket round semi martsolf lost to a girl in sectionals. plus white might not wrestle and 145 is weak lost to davenport! wont even be CLOSE THAT"S THE BOTTOM LINE!

tsirtsis wont pin, binion beat gregory as well. and saroff would lose to sarah. you are right though it wont be close just in a different way bud.

 

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