TCWrestling Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Two years ago there was a 2 lb. weight allowance. Any possibilities of that again this year? The only weight allowance will be on day 2 and it is only 1 lb. The 2 lbs from a couple of years ago was because the tournament was on New Years Eve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCWrestling Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I ran through the line up, and there are 30 wrestlers that are ranked in the state by Indianamat.com at this tournament. I might have missed a few so help me out. 103 1. Cody Phillps Union County 7. Josh Farrell Greenfield ? Central 8. Mike Venezia Cathedral 14. Gideon VanHook Reitz 16. Tom Gettinger Connersville 112. 5. Bryan Kuhn Retiz 7. Brain Harvey Catherdal 8. Mason Todd Pendleton Heights 119 4. Josh Kieffer Roncalli 11. Trevor Moody Reitz 125. 4. Justin Kieffer Roncalli 130. 3. Ethan Raley Indian Creek 6. Tyler Clark South Dearborn 10. John Stringfeild Catherdal 12. Joe Kieffer Roncalli 135. 1. Brock Norton Ft. Carroll 140. 9. Bailey Kesterman Triton Central 145. 8. Reece LeFever Ft. Carroll 152 11. Austin Neibarger Catherdal 15. Nick Manning South Dearborn 160. 2. Tyler Willis Catherdal 171. 1. Michael Duckworth Union County 10. Michael Smith North Central 13. Trey Reese Indian Creek 189. 1. Aaron Stevenson Indian Creek 215. 4. Jake Buchanan Cathedral 10. Ron Forman South Dearborn 285. 7. Willie Henson North Central 14. Jake Stevenson Indian Creek Class A Champs Hamiliton Heights, but Union County could be close behind...all depends on who has more placers Class AA champ Cathedral Class AAA champ Evansville Reitz Overall champ Cathedral 103: Phillips UC 112: Kuhn ER 119: Kieffer Ron 125: Kieffer Ron 130: Raley IC 135: Norton FWC 140: Wide open but I like Kesterman TC 145: again wide open but i like Gessell UC 152: Manning SD 160: Willis Cathedral 171: Reese IC 189: Duckworth UC 215: Buchanan Cathedral 285: Henson NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSoldier Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I would take Stevenson over duck if duck goes 189 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 By the looks of your picks, one might guess you went to the Jeff classic; perhaps your school is South Dearborn. Just a guess though. No I'm from batesville who was also at jeff the south dearborn kids just impressed me esp manning and clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 A quick, uncontroversial seeding of the Top 8 in this tournament with no seeding meeting is not impossible. Use the following criteria in priority order: 1. State finals place previous season 2. State qualifier previous season 3. State finals place any time in career 4. State qualifier any time in career 5. Connersville tournament place previous season 6. Semi-state qualifier previous season 7. Connersville tournament place any time in career 8. Current season winning percentage No head-to-head discussion. No strength of schedule discussion. Just a quick, easy way to distribute 8 quality wrestlers to avoid some of the unnecessary early round matchups we always see. It's not perfect, but it would definitely separate the top kids early in the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Class A Champs Hamiliton Heights, but Union County could be close behind...all depends on who has more placers Class AA champ Cathedral Class AAA champ Evansville Reitz Overall champ Cathedral 103: Phillips UC 112: Kuhn ER 119: Kieffer Ron 125: Kieffer Ron 130: Raley IC 135: Norton FWC 140: Wide open but I like Kesterman TC 145: again wide open but i like Gessell UC 152: Manning SD 160: Willis Cathedral 171: Reese IC 189: Duckworth UC 215: Buchanan Cathedral 285: Henson NC Whats with the class BS stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I saw that one coming from 3 or 4 counties away..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theckman Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Don't know if they still do but eons ago when I was coaching, they divided the teams into three divisions based on enrollment. They would give an trophy to the overall champion. In addition, they would also give trophies to the two highest placing teams in the two divisions the overall champion did not come from. One year we finished fourth overall but received a trophy because we were the highest placing team in our division. Something unique Connersville did then that was kinda neat. But, no, I'm not in favor of different classes for the state tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Are there going to be updated brackets anywhere for this tournament? Trackwrestling? I'm going to be traveling for the holidays, but would love to keep up with the tourney results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANMAN Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 I do not believe there will be live updates done by the school. However, after the first day I'm sure someone will post atleast some updates. Otherwise you'll have to wait for the complete results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernfan Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Any upset predictions or sleepers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCWrestling Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Whats with the class BS stuff? As Theckman has said, the teams are split the teams into three class...not sure the exact size but i believe 0-800 is class A, 801-1500 is Class AA and 1501+ is Class AAA. Each Class will have a champ and then of course there is the overall champ...I am in noway in favor of class wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITBULL Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Tuesday 12/29/09 Spartan Classic Batesville Bed. No. Lawrence Carroll (Ft. Wayne) Cathedral Centerville Connersville Dekalb Eastern Hancock Evansville F.J. Reit Evansville North Franklin County Ft. Wayne North Side Ft. Wayne Snider Greenfield-Central Hagerstown Hamilton Heights Indian Creek Indpls. Broad Ripple Lawrenceburg Lebanon Milan Mt. Vernon North Central-Indy Northeastern Pendleton Heights Richmond Roncalli South Dearborn Talawanda High School Triton Central Union County Western Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVwatcher Posted December 24, 2009 Author Share Posted December 24, 2009 Does anyone know if the brackets have already been posted or will be posted for this ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyGonzo Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 They keep the brackets for this tourney top secret... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 So are the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCWrestling Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 I won't be able to put the brackets on here, but I will do my best to keep everyone updated as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 If you need help with bracket posting I can help. The main thing is getting results as if people are lucky there will be full results within a week of the conclusion of this tournament. For some odd reason, the people at Connersville like to keep everything involved with this tournament top secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdmdjm Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 This tournament is a blind draw. We see the brackets the morning we show up. Lots of scratches at the coaches meeting and VERY rarely is the weight class re-drawn. You can have forfeits in that push you to day 2 with 1 win. A few years ago at 215 Panko of Avon and Wolf of East Central met in the opening round! Happens every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 A quick, uncontroversial seeding of the Top 8 in this tournament with no seeding meeting is not impossible. Use the following criteria in priority order: 1. State finals place previous season 2. State qualifier previous season 3. State finals place any time in career 4. State qualifier any time in career 5. Connersville tournament place previous season 6. Semi-state qualifier previous season 7. Connersville tournament place any time in career 8. Current season winning percentage No head-to-head discussion. No strength of schedule discussion. Just a quick, easy way to distribute 8 quality wrestlers to avoid some of the unnecessary early round matchups we always see. It's not perfect, but it would definitely separate the top kids early in the tournament. I wrote this on the last page...any reason Connersville doesn't do something simple like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 you have to win every match to be the champ so what does it matter. besides If you finish 3rd you get more matches than if you finish second... the year panko finish 3rd he lost the first round to Wolfe and won 7 straight matches making him 7-1 if he would have finish second he would have been 4-1. the only different between first and third is the face-off and where you stand on the podium in fact 3rd place can help the team just as much as 2nd if the wrestler wins most of there matches by pin. that's just my opinion though. I do wish it was seeded cause sometime you can get boring finals match ups. if anything they should just split up the state placers and state qualifers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STARSMAN Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Was that the year Panko won state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 No. Panko lost in the first round of state that year ('03-'04) and finished with 3 losses. He went undefeated the next year to win state. Wolfe got second at state, losing only the state championship match to Chris Kasten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummels Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 When do Brackets come out? Is it not until the morning of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCWrestling Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 When do Brackets come out? Is it not until the morning of? Yes it is the morning of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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