dawgfan Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 but ditka takes a sausage break at the 1:40 mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I think Runyan would beat Duckworth and i also think that Duckworth would beat Shrewsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midget5589 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I think Runyan would beat Duckworth and i also think that Duckworth would beat Shrewsbury woah! no way duck beats shrewsbury, i think graber would beat duckworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickyardbrawler Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 well maybe we will get to see porras and tsirtsis in the same weight next year. but we wouldnt see it until semi state considering that hobart doesnt wrestle CP all year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midget5589 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 i sure hope porras and tsirtis are in the same weight that would be entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justafan52 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 porras would stomp on tsirtsis. oh you mean like how he stomped on cashe when they wrestled? Are you insinuating that Porras would get stomped on by Napules too since Napules beat Tsirtsis. The point I'm trying to make is that you can't judge who would win a match based off the way someone wrestled others who have faced the same guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booker T Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Tsirtis got the 1st Tkdwn and then backed up the rest of the match until hitting a front headlock a defensive move in the 3rd period. To say he stompped Cashe is rediculous. I'm not saying he shouldn't have won and that he was stalling, but once he got that 1st tkdwn he didn't do anything. To say Porras can't beat him is a bit rediculous. Napules beat him. Sometimes guys just lose it always happens. Since when is scoring from a font headlock not an offensive move? : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickyardbrawler Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Are you insinuating that Porras would get stomped on by Napules too since Napules beat Tsirtsis. The point I'm trying to make is that you can't judge who would win a match based off the way someone wrestled others who have faced the same guy thank you justafan..i completely agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefthanded Headlock Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 porras would stomp on tsirtsis. oh you mean like how he stomped on cashe when they wrestled? lol are you serious???? Cashe beat Porras 10-5 at Al Smith and Tsirtsis beat Cashe 5-2 or 6-2 noooo way Tsirtsis wins this one by far, even if he was 5 lbs lighter It was 5-4 T-shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTights7 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Because he didnt snap him down into a front headlock. He sprawled into one. I didnt mean he backed up and in stalling.I even said he did not stall. Yes he rides well, didn't work a turn though. i ment it more along the lines of he didnt shoot again and Cashe shot prolly 10-15 times? Just because Cashe beat porras 10-5 means nothing. He majored Eppert and went to OT with Wright. So i guess Eppert would have no chance with Wright huh. Napules beat him so i guess a state champ from a heavier weight class would have no shot at it. Now Tsirtis im talking about him as a freshman not any other time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scardy94 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 103-Phillips vs. 112-Hawkins 112-Hawkins vs. 119-Eppert 119-Eppert vs. 125-Tsirtis 125-Tsirtis vs. 130-Porras 130-Porras vs. 135-March 135-March vs. 140-Sandefer 140-Sandefer vs. 145-Young 145-Young vs. 152-McMurray 152-McMurray vs. 160-Runyan 160-Runyan vs. 171-Duckworth 171.Duckworth vs. 189-Shrewsbury 189-Shrewsbury vs. 215-Baker 215-Baker vs. 285-Chalfant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrzr21 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I would also like to see Porras and Tsirtsis in the same weight class. It'd be a good one, but I think Tsirtsis would win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midget5589 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 porras would stomp on tsirtsis. oh you mean like how he stomped on cashe when they wrestled? Are you insinuating that Porras would get stomped on by Napules too since Napules beat Tsirtsis. The point I'm trying to make is that you can't judge who would win a match based off the way someone wrestled others who have faced the same guy no i was insinuating that porras would most certainly not "stomp" tsirtis...although your right with the rest of your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkg1 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'm as big of a Porrass fan as there is, but to say anybody would "stomp" Tsirtsis is absurd. I also think it's hard to judge who would win a match by common opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash513 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 anywayz How much of a scholarship is Shrewsbury getting at Northwestern... because he did not really impress me that much... Undefeated State Champion is not that impressive?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking174 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 anywayz How much of a scholarship is Shrewsbury getting at Northwestern... because he did not really impress me that much... Undefeated State Champion is not that impressive?? Ok... winning state is impressive.. but what i am saying is he does not have a college style and I don't see him as a D1 wrestler.. He is good on his feet and not so good on top or bottom... but i guess that is how a lot of Indiana wrestlers are. I am not trying to cause a controversy he is a good wrestler and probably a good kid as well Hey, lets not put anyone down here. Especially a kid like Shrewsbury. Shrewsbury is a great wrestler and he will have alot of success at Northwestern. Shrewsbury will get much better in college, just watch. Great wrestler and a great guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boom444 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Shrewsbury is a great wrestler... but i also think he needs to work on top and bottom but you do not get a lot of practice at that in high school when you are good. It will take time but all wrestlers have to adjust to the college style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanJett Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I agree somewhat with your comment Boom444, but, you're right he will only get better in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midget5589 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i dont know what you people are talking about hes not good on top or bottom, i wrestled him three times last year and i think hes really hard to keep down and even harder to get off your back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooler Packer Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Oh Champion champion champion, I'm going to remind myself that your clearly a young kid with your post you wrote. I think it's safe to say you can't get a full general oppinion on how solid a wrestler is with watching one or maybe two matches that they wrestle. Especialy in the final rounds in which they tend to wrestle a little conservative. You think he shoulda woulda coulda lost in the semis?? He won and moved on to finals.Your comment is pretty much a dig to him and any other kid he's wrestled over the year. If your not impressed with him that's fine. I sure am as well as the other hand full of college coaches that recruted him hard. As far as scholarship money goes- Marcus did very well for himself not only because he's a great wrestler but, because he's a great student also.(How much sclolarship money did you get?) He also recieved a few-K for not getting on this board and talking crazy smack. He ended up 2nd last yr. 1st this year and went undefeated.... Do the math champion. Congrads Marcus we love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blah blah blah Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 i would say porras beats jason by a 2 or 3 maybe.frankie's shots are too good and he is always pressing the action.i dont think jason would hold down frankie with his turk ride.i look at it as more of a stalling technique..even though he does score points haha.im not saying jason cant hang but that frankie is just 1 level up from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestler.by.design Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 people usually tend to think that the higher weights would beat the lower weights.what does everyone thing? 103-Phillips vs. 112-Hawkins 112-Hawkins vs. 119-Eppert 119-Eppert vs. 125-Tsirtis 125-Tsirtis vs. 130-Porras 130-Porras vs. 135-March 140-Sandefer vs. 145-Young 145-Young vs. 152-McMurray 152-McMurray vs. 160-Runyan 160-Runyan vs. 171-Duckworth 171.Duckworth vs. 189-Shrewsbury 189-Shrewsbury vs. 215-Baker 215-Baker vs. 285-Chalfant 103-112: Phillips 112-119: Eppert 119-125: Eppert (tough call) 125-130: Tsirtsis 130-135: Porras 135-140: Sandefer 140-145: Sandefer 145:152: McMurray 152-160: McMurray 160-171: Runyan 171-189: Shrewsbury 189-215: Baker 215-285: Chalfant how about chalfant Vs. phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdo^it135 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I've wrestled both Tsirtsis and Porras, and I'm gonna go with porras not in a dominating fashion but definately controlling the whole match. The way he leads with his head and blocks with his hands is unrivaled. Jason might be more technically sound but Frankie has learned how to control a match in highschool. He completely shuts down his opponents offense with his foward pressure and relentless pursuit of a single leg takedown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyofOne Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 103-Phillips vs. 112-Hawkins Phillips wins 112-Hawkins vs. 119-Eppert Eppert wins 119-Eppert vs. 125-Tsirtis Tsirtsis wins 125-Tsirtis vs. 130-Porras Tsirtsis wins 130-Porras vs. 135-March March wins 135-March vs. 140-Sandefer Sandefer wins 140-Sandefer vs. 145-Young Sandefer wins 145-Young vs. 152-McMurray McMurray wins 152-McMurray vs. 160-Runyan Runyan wins 160-Runyan vs. 171-Duckworth Duckworth wins 171.Duckworth vs. 189-Shrewsbury Shrewsbury wins 189-Shrewsbury vs. 215-Baker Baker wins 215-Baker vs. 285-Chalfant Chalfant wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-townBandit Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 i would say porras beats jason by a 2 or 3 maybe.frankie's shots are too good and he is always pressing the action.i dont think jason would hold down frankie with his turk ride.i look at it as more of a stalling technique..even though he does score points haha.im not saying jason cant hang but that frankie is just 1 level up from him quote and i quote tsirtis will be the record books along with his brother as the first 2 4x states champs and i quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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