2025 IHSWCA Team State Vote-In Results

Great system! We will take a small dip the next year or 2 but will not be denied with false opinions soon. To say we disagree is an understatement. Having only 8 at 4A with teams allowed to choose to level up is bullcrap. But what do I know. 
 

I’ll also throw this out there. Name another team that is in the top 20 that has 0 move ins or kids that out of the district. There probably isn’t one. But… whatever 

Who is moving kids in….i don’t think Avon has moved kids in and lost nationally ranked kids 

And I think those are all Portage kids too 

Prove it. 

Ok ok illl call the county in the morning and get their home adddress and cross reference them with their middle schools I’ll see if they will release birth certificates too. 
 

even tho he was in your district it’s nice to add a SQ from another school to your line up. I know the teams voted in didn’t get that luxury but what do I know 

1 minute ago, ontherise219 said:

Ok ok illl call the county in the morning and get their home adddress and cross reference them with their middle schools I’ll see if they will release birth certificates too. 
 

even tho he was in your district it’s nice to add a SQ from another school to your line up. I know the teams voted in didn’t get that luxury but what do I know 

Cool. Thanks 

Take it up with IHSAA and their lack of interest. No reason the classed team state duals wouldn't be lucrative enough for them. I'll say it for the 10 millionth time, the team state duals should be treated like the IHSAA Football & Basketball tournaments. Make a stipulation that 8 different weight classes must be filled to be considered a dual team. The tournament doesn't count towards the stupid schedule points bs. Let schools & teams decide how much or little they want to wrestle instead of the IHSAA assigning a points system to limit schedules. Kids today are finding ways to wrestle 7 days a week, 365/366 days a year whether it is formal or informal practice or competition. 

17 minutes ago, ontherise219 said:

You weren’t trying to add any state champs

Wrong. I stand by my decisions. Yes I had an opportunity for one of the best ever in Indiana to be part of our program but it wasn’t the right thing to do for him and his family for many reasons which is no one’s business besides theirs. I stand by my program and the decisions we make.  Including someone that has always lived in our district and I have helped coach since he started wrestling. Along with the fact I recommended he not go to our school when he started high school.

I just saw this topic and I don’t normally respond but kind of felt compelled. I’m pretty sure all of our Franklin kids are from Franklin. The only move in I can think of is my son a little over four years ago:)

Ok. I am going to bed I’ll read your response when you are less upset tomorrow 

When does strength of schedule come into play into this. How doea a school get in with a opponents record of  6 wins and 50 losses. I know we all have set schedules. We had more 2A,3A and 4A teams on our schedule then 1A schools.

8 hours ago, ontherise219 said:

And I think those are all Portage kids too 

Correct! Our Move in (Ayden Campbell) was a lifelong Portage kid. He came HOME. We have lost more than we have moved in.

I apologize if I am wrong on my statement about some teams. I’m taking nothing from Portage. They have always been tough. My last loss in high school was to a Portage kid. I’m also taking nothing from Zionsville. They always have a great team and Welch is a great coach.
 

I personally truly felt like my team earned it this year and I did everything in my power to prove we belonged including changing our schedule last minute to face top teams, submitting all stats for our wresters for the year so far, and who was in and out of lineup during matches. Our starting lineup all have around 20 matches or more with 81% win record. 
 

I’m not delusional. We wouldn’t be winning the thing. We would be there for the experience and get kids at least 3 quality matches and maybe some of my kids beat some kids they aren’t supposed to beat. 
 

As a coach my job is to stick up for my team when they deserve it and work to put them in front of the best competition possible along with the best opportunities. And this is a great one for that. 
 

Like everything else I’ll get over this and move on. Just give me 24 hours.

9 hours ago, ontherise219 said:

Ok ok illl call the county in the morning and get their home adddress and cross reference them with their middle schools I’ll see if they will release birth certificates too. 
 

even tho he was in your district it’s nice to add a SQ from another school to your line up. I know the teams voted in didn’t get that luxury but what do I know 

of #TheCounty here ready to answer all questions about #TheCounty wrestlers .

Kids I know 

Avon Lineup 

106- Case Bridge, been wrestling at Avon Club since he 4 years always been a little guy. Contenders kid .  Prolly got his dad’s genes JS . Mr. Bridge thought one night he wanted to try to get in my Civic Si , I said whoa man, what are you doing ?  I back down you can have it lil’guy, I mean Big Guy . 

113-120- Mason Goelz, been wrestling at Avon Club since he was 4-5 years old . Contenders kid . 
told everyone last year to keep a eye on him from advice from a 3x State Champ that said Dad, kid gonna Shock’em . I said bet, I’ll spread the news .What he do Place at State . 
 

Anthony Zurnaski Freshman, been wrestling for the Avon club since he was 4 years old. Contenders kid. 
Will be a Contender at State this year . it up . 
 

126- Rioux, well … I got nothing to say cause we all know that family is 100% Avon, did I mention he’s got 2 lil’brothers that’s gonna beat Ray, Luke, Nathan wrestling records . If you didn’t, now you know . Been wrestling his umbilical cord in the womb, CWA is in his blood line . Coach Ryan is GodFather . 
 

132- Q. One many Schoeff, one of many like the Rioux family of Brothers that wrestle. Been wrestling with the Avon Club, been wrestling there since 4 years old or like Rioux Brothers been wrestling moms innards practice dummies . Them poor moms, these are FACTS ! Ask their moms out there .
 
Mom & Dad is and was long time school teachers at #TheCounty Plainfield High school, has one brother that travels with her and goes there . 
 

138- Chase Kline, been wrestling for a long time for Avon Club in elementary, Middle school . 
 

144- Senior Seth Syra, been since his 4 Avon Club, Red Cobra & Contenders kid . 
 

Senior - Griffin Larson , Been wrestling since he was 4 years old, Avon Club, very good football player . Big Brother was a very good accomplished wrestler 3x State placer. Family is like Rioux’s , 100% Avon . 

Man… very disappointed to see Homestead not make it. With that said.. I’m more disappointed to see the sour grapes. Not sure who votes but I’m sure it’s not the kids and parents of the teams that got in. I can say with 100 percent confidence that every team that made it has a kid starting that didn’t start kindergarten in that school district. 
 

Again, disappointing for the Homestead wrestling for sure. Best of luck to those dudes and the teams that will be there! 

3 minutes ago, Mattyb said:

Man… very disappointed to see Homestead not make it. With that said.. I’m more disappointed to see the sour grapes. Not sure who votes but I’m sure it’s not the kids and parents of the teams that got in. I can say with 100 percent confidence that every team that made it has a kid starting that didn’t start kindergarten in that school district. 
 

Again, disappointing for the Homestead wrestling for sure. Best of luck to those dudes and the teams that will be there! 

Well said. Just love how no one really wants to call out the ones creating this problem. Seems people are scared or think they are doing an excellent job, when it seems they're doing just an OK job at best to me. I'm not just talking about how they handle wrestling either.

3 hours ago, Mattyb said:

Man… very disappointed to see Homestead not make it. With that said.. I’m more disappointed to see the sour grapes. Not sure who votes but I’m sure it’s not the kids and parents of the teams that got in. I can say with 100 percent confidence that every team that made it has a kid starting that didn’t start kindergarten in that school district. 
 

Again, disappointing for the Homestead wrestling for sure. Best of luck to those dudes and the teams that will be there! 

I will not delete my comments because I feel that is wrong because I made them. Let’s just say I should have slept on it before I got the keyboard out. Like I said I apologize if I miss characterized programs unfairly.
 

I understand the reasoning, we still need to show out post season and other teams on that list have done that.
 

I appreciate all your support @Mattyb.

3 minutes ago, aoberlin said:

I will not delete my comments because I feel that is wrong because I made them. Let’s just say I should have slept on it before I got the keyboard out. Like I said I apologize if I miss characterized programs unfairly.
 

I understand the reasoning we still need to show out post season and other teams on that list have done that.
 

I appreciate all your support @Mattyb.

Another part I hate, just like the old single class team state determination of regional teams. Individual results & dual strategy aren't always tied together. 

@TeamGarcia

Wish I’d gotten Mason Goelz in that soon!  Started when he was 12. He has fallen in love with the sport and really enjoy wrestling with Avon!

It's tough and I was in the vote in, and I am not going to give the ins and outs of the discussion, but we did find out zoom meetings have time limits twice. It is an imperfect system, but it is the system we have. It is good that we are able to get people from across the state in and discuss and try to make the best decisions. I can say the votes were not unanimous.

I already told Andy I did vote for Homestead. It doesn't seem that way with the back and forth in the post, but I like their results and think they are building something really good. 

1 minute ago, JMG317 said:

@TeamGarcia

 

Wish I’d gotten Mason Goelz in that soon!  Started when he was 12. He has fallen in love with the sport. 

He has been wrestling really well! That Chazz Robinson match was really good at Carnahan, it shows how much he has improved from even IHPO. 

3 minutes ago, JMG317 said:

@TeamGarcia

 

Wish I’d gotten Mason Goelz in that soon!  Started when he was 12. He has fallen in love with the sport. 

Welp, learn something everyday then. Way he wrestles at Contenders and the advice from my son, I thought he been around wrestling since he elementary days . Middle School is good enough . Kid has talent that will take him to the next level if he extends his career. Hope he does ! 

How @ontherise219 travels after screwing up the rankings and the team state vote...

39 minutes ago, ontherise219 said:

It's tough and I was in the vote in, and I am not going to give the ins and outs of the discussion, but we did find out zoom meetings have time limits twice. It is an imperfect system, but it is the system we have. It is good that we are able to get people from across the state in and discuss and try to make the best decisions. I can say the votes were not unanimous.

 

I already told Andy I did vote for Homestead. It doesn't seem that way with the back and forth in the post, but I like their results and think they are building something really good. 

 

It is a hard job and the imperfect system means not everyone will be happy.  Not sure there is a perfect system.  But thanks for all you guys do for Indiana wrestling.

4 minutes ago, Tcarter said:

 

How @ontherise219 travels after screwing up the rankings and the team state vote...

 

Security at the Indianamat state show