New Team Rankings (agree or disagree?)

[wrestler60160]

1. Mish
2. M.D.
3. P.M.
4. C.P.
5. Cath.
6. Bellmont
7. Castle
8. L.N.
9. Merr.
10.Elk. Mem.
11.Evans. Reitz
12.New Pal
13.Avon
14.Carmel
15.Yorktown
16.Col. North
17.Roncalli
18.Peru
19.Center Grove
20.South Bend Riley

[KarlHungus]

I think you could throw a blanket over the 5.  I think Merriville might be stronger then LN but that might be my Region bias.  Yorktown seem strong enough to compete with the top 10 this year.  Peru, Are you kidding?  Do they have some kids injured or something? 

[bratton]

center grove beat columbus north

[Y2CJ41]

The honorable mention is a flat out joke.

[AJ]

The honorable mention is a flat out joke.

What honorable mention?

Don't understand the lower rankings?  Yorktown is getting no repsect from the voters, while Peru is getting a lot of respect from the voters.

[listenup20]

I'm not trying to fire up the down southers, but why is MD so high?  Mishawaka is definitely #1, but I would think that either CP or Cathedral at #2.

[cewrestlingfan]

It would be hard to not have MD ranked so high based on the performance of the last several years.  If they are not deserving of the high ranking, then we will find out soon enough.  They should be given the benefit of the dought until proven otherwise.

[Y2CJ41]

The honorable mention is a flat out joke.

What honorable mention?

Don't understand the lower rankings?  Yorktown is getting no repsect from the voters, while Peru is getting a lot of respect from the voters.

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Also receiving votes were:
Bloomington South, Columbia City, Delphi, East Noble, Elkhart Central, Evansville Memorial, Floyd Central, Ft. Wayne Carroll, Franklin, Jeffersonville, Lafayette Jeff, Martinsville, Mt. Vernon, New Castle, New Haven, Penn, Portage, Southmont, South Dearborn, Warren Central, Westfield.

It really tells you how uninformed some voters are.  Columbia City went 2-3 in their opening meet.  New Haven got smoked by East Noble in their first meet and beat even worse by Bellmont last night. 

[vision*quest]

Why is Peru still voted?

[Y2CJ41]

I don't know, I'm not on the voting committee, nor do I see being invited to vote anytime soon.

[Barrq]

Y2 your the big class fan why dont you go out on a limb and rank the top ten in each class.

[vision*quest]

Yeah that would be cool
If you ever have time Y2 can you make a top ten for each class    I think we all would appriciate it a lot

[TaylorWrestling125]

Hamilton Heights at least needs to be in the top 20. They're solid top to bottom, they are a consistent team with winning every year and that goes for this year too. 

[starsaw]

Are those the preseason rankings.....what the heck.....I know the indianamat team will come up with something......By next week, I will have my own team rankings out, be ready wrestling fans!

[BlueBolt]

I'm not trying to fire up the down southers, but why is MD so high?  Mishawaka is definitely #1, but I would think that either CP or Cathedral at #2.

No arguments here!

[BlueBolt]

So many teams seem to have kids out, or just getting into the line up after football or injuries.  Many haven't found settled into their weight classes yet.

For my money, Mish is #1 until beaten, the rest are chasing the Gold Standard.  Who will end up with it?  That's what February is for!   

Number 7 and 2 on this list wrestle on 13 December...who else is meeting in a Dual format this weekend?

[army197]

1  3 and 4 will prolly meet saturday at the tricoff!! should be exciting to see

[driller]

Center Grove-Carmel-Evansville Reitz this Saturday.  Matchups depend on which 4 teams are in your bracket.  Center Grove had 4 wrestlers out of the line-up yesterday against Franklin Central.  Three are ranked and are very questionable for Saturday.

[wrestler60160]

Perry Meridian, Avon and New Pal wrestle Saturday.

[cathwrestler]

LN just got beat by Carmel. 21-30...So LN should not be in the top 10.

[BlueBolt]

Center Grove-Carmel-Evansville Reitz this Saturday.  Matchups depend on which 4 teams are in your bracket.  Center Grove had 4 wrestlers out of the line-up yesterday against Franklin Central.  Three are ranked and are very questionable for Saturday.

Questionable?   In what way?

[quinnsDAD]

too early to say about anybody after the first 5. being from Avon I would say no way we should be that high.

[driller]

Questionable?   In what way?


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Injuries.  Flu.

[mtv2112]

I'm not trying to fire up the down southers, but why is MD so high?  Mishawaka is definitely #1, but I would think that either CP or Cathedral at #2.

No arguments here!

Blueibolt, I assume you are Castle.  If not you can ignore this . . . anyway . . .

You guys better back it up.  Don't you have MD in the house Saturday?  Seems like a lot of people like to bust on MD, but I think we should give that program credit for making everyone else better.  MD has not dropped to Castle's level, Castle has brought their program up to MD's level.  Maybe I am an optimist, but I prefer to think that wrestling in Indiana has been made better by the long MD run.  All the other top programs tried like hell to get to and surpass that level.

Besides, if a drop at MD is what it will take for some other team to take the crown, then you really don't end up with much.  You've want to beat the best when they are the best.

That being said, I do think that Castle has an excellent shot this year.  I'd say 60/40 Castle.

[BlueBolt]

I'm not trying to fire up the down southers, but why is MD so high?  Mishawaka is definitely #1, but I would think that either CP or Cathedral at #2.

No arguments here!

Blueibolt, I assume you are Castle.  If not you can ignore this . . . anyway . . .

You guys better back it up.  Don't you have MD in the house Saturday?  Seems like a lot of people like to bust on MD, but I think we should give that program credit for making everyone else better.  MD has not dropped to Castle's level, Castle has brought their program up to MD's level.  Maybe I am an optimist, but I prefer to think that wrestling in Indiana has been made better by the long MD run.  All the other top programs tried like hell to get to and surpass that level.

Besides, if a drop at MD is what it will take for some other team to take the crown, then you really don't end up with much.  You've want to beat the best when they are the best.

That being said, I do think that Castle has an excellent shot this year.  I'd say 60/40 Castle.

I won't disagree that Mater Dei has been the standard...but I have to point out another possible issue with such a run, it breeds bordom and drives interest away from the fan base.  I am not so sure you can give any one program credit for making everyone better.  I am rather sure no team in the state trains just to beat Mater Dei.  Would it be nice to beat them, of course, just like it would be nice to beat every other team you see in a season.  Is there a bit of prestige that goes with beating them?  Of course...But this year, the Cavemen are the returning Champions, and they have earned their time in the sun. 

My statement about #2 is based on many factors.   Disrespect for past accomplishments of the Mater Dei program is not one of them.  Given returning talent from last years individual and team tourneys, some of the other schools seem to have a bit of an edge on paper...This early in the year especially thats what a ranking is all about.  For that fact, a ranking is nothing more than ink on paper, but if they are a matter for discussion I stand by my opinion. 

As for this weekend...just like any other, there are a lot of questions to be answered...each of these teams will bring everything they have and will step up to the occassion.   It has to be the potential to be a barn burner of a dual meet.  Even better than last years Castle/Mater Dei meet.  Does Castle have a team with the ability to compete with anyone in the state?  I would have to say YES to that.  But as we all know, you actually have to wrestle the meets to reap the rewards.   If this group of young men keep their focus and work hard each and every day, they will have a memorable year!   It's up to them...


My Prediction for this weekend?   One Hell Of A Dual Meet...Both Sides Know It...