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WrestlerBlack77

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Last years champs vs this years champs
« on: February 23, 2012, 02:43:08 PM »
I am surprised no one has started this topic yet so I decided to ask. Who does everybody think would win between this years champs and last years?


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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2012, 04:41:26 PM »
@ 126 I think mckinley would beat ayersman. 


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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2012, 04:58:05 PM »
@ 126 I think mckinley would beat ayersman. 

I disagree. I think Ayersman would find a way to win 1-0.

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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2012, 05:06:30 PM »
106/103: micic
112/3: Brooks
120/119: petrov
125/6: McKinley
130/2: McKinley
135/8: jackson
145/0: tsirtsis
152/145: roach
160/152: welch
170/160: mappes
182/171: lynde
195/189: sliga
220/215: last years champ
285:???
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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 05:27:12 PM »
103 – Nathan Boston,  (46-0) vs. Micic (47-0)--- 2012 Micic wins
112 – Mason Todd,(32-0) vs. Brooks (35-0) -- 2012 Brooks wins
119 – Kyle Ayersman,(52-0) vs. Petrov (47-0)-- 2012 Petrov wins
125 – Jared McKinley (53-1) vs. Ayersman (52-0) -- 2012 Ayersman wins
130 – Neal Molloy (50-0) vs. McKinley (48-1) -- 2011 Molloy wins
135 – Ethan Raley(34-1) vs. Jackson (52-0) -- 2011 Raley wins
140 – Jason Tsirtsis (42-0) vs. Tsirtsis (42-0) -- Tsirtsis wins  ;)
145 – Eric Roach (42-0)  vs. Tsirtsis (42-0) -- 2012 Tsirtsis wins (Be fun to watch)
152 – Doug Welch(50-1) vs. Bradley (44-0) -- 2011 Welch wins
160 – Chad Welch (51-0) vs. Harvey (47-0)-- 2011 Welch wins
171 – Drake Stein(46-0) vs. Mappes (46-0) -- 2011 Stein wins
189 – Garret Goldman(40-1) vs. Lynde (52-0) -- 2012 Lynde wins
215 – Trey Reese (32-0)  vs. Sliga or Kral -- 2012 Sliga/2011 Reese wins against Kral
285 – Jeremiah Harvey (45-4) vs. Hall (50-0) -- 2012 Hall wins???

I am sure you could mess around with the wts whatever way you want.  Be some great matches most would go either way.



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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2012, 09:43:09 AM »
@ 126 I think mckinley would beat ayersman. 

I'll take the kid with 3 state titles, a 193-2 career record, a 15-1 record in Indy, and a pretty decent gas tank.  His only two loses came in close matches. 
> State 2009 - As a freshman in State 103 Semi's, he lost in double overtime to Dusty Kief. (Kief beat McKinley 9-2 in round 1) 
> Al-Smith 2010 - He lost to Beck (Mish) at Al-Smith. He came back to beat Beck at Semi-State and State Finals. (*Beck beat Todd and Campbell at State)

People seem to forget the level of competion he faced or the guys at his weight for four years.  He is probably one of the few to own wins over
Brooks, Petrov, Campbell, McKinley, Harvey, etc. (Phillips may be the other), while also beating some 9 other eventual or current finalists. 

With money on the line, Ayersman seems to handle the pressure decently, and has ok conditioning:  http://www.ihigh.com/hoosierauthority/video_893317.html

1.  I think Mr. McKinley is an exciting wrestler to watch, but when he does not aerial launch or pin, he has had some close matches.  At State, he labored with Moody in quarters
     being ridden hard and taken down in a tight 8-6 match, and was tight with Johnson in first round before creating space.  He has gotten more well rounded, but there is no
     doubt if you withstand the initial head attacks, Campbell, Phillips, and Ayersman have shown he can be beat.

2.  I doubt Ayersman is dumb enough to walk into McKinley's headlock. In their only prior meeting, the 2010 112lb semifinals, Ayersman quickly took him down and
     pinned McKinley. 

3.  LeCount - After watching LeCount, I believe LeCount could actually be top dog in that room.  The LeCount kid is the real deal, and word from some in the PM camp is that
     Mr. LeCount does very well against Mr. McKinley.  I would not be surprised if you told me Mr. McKinley rarely scores on Mr. LeCount.

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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2012, 04:28:13 PM »
Mckinley wasn't the wrestler he is now when he wrestled ayersman in the semis that year.
why don't they have a match at a catch weight
both weighing in at 128. I'm picking mckinley he' too strong for Ayersman I guarantee that!
Ayersman's a boy compared to jmac

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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2012, 06:00:51 PM »
After watching both wrestle this weekend I'd have to say McKinley by 3 or 4 points.
Did they ever meet up in iswa folkstyle state?
I thought Jared pinned Ayersman or was that someone else?
Either way, regardless of the outcome, 2 great wrestlers!

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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2012, 06:47:04 PM »
I am surprised no one has started this topic yet so I decided to ask. Who does everybody think would win between this years champs and last years?
My question to you is, could you beat Harvey under the lights?  (I would bet on you.)

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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2012, 07:52:11 PM »
My question to you is, could you beat Harvey under the lights?  (I would bet on you.)
Would be a long close match. Dude was close to impossible to take down because of his strength and balance. Every one of our matches was by one point I think. I beat him four times and then he beat me when it mattered at semi-state lol

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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2012, 07:58:45 PM »
I heard he was sandbaggin'.
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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2012, 08:01:39 PM »
I heard he was sandbaggin'.
R u refering to me or Harvey?

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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2012, 08:07:20 PM »
After watching both wrestle this weekend I'd have to say McKinley by 3 or 4 points.
Did they ever meet up in iswa folkstyle state?
I thought Jared pinned Ayersman or was that someone else?
Either way, regardless of the outcome, 2 great wrestlers!

Other way around. Ayersman pinned McKinley in 1:05 of the first period.  But past records and head-to-head matches don't count, unless it involves
McKinley winning.

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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2012, 08:17:57 PM »
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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2012, 08:23:45 PM »
After watching both wrestle this weekend I'd have to say McKinley by 3 or 4 points.
Did they ever meet up in iswa folkstyle state?
I thought Jared pinned Ayersman or was that someone else?
Either way, regardless of the outcome, 2 great wrestlers!


Other way around. Ayersman pinned McKinley in 1:05 of the first period.  But past records and head-to-head matches don't count, unless it involves
McKinley winning.
 
Sorry for asking the question Mr. Ayersman.
Just asking who did pin your son at Iswa folkstyle state ?
Was it Harvey from Cathedral?

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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2012, 08:58:34 PM »
Harvey
Haha well he won state doing it then

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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2012, 09:43:19 PM »
Brian Harvey did pin Ayersman at ISWA Folkstyle state in a vicious headlock several years ago.  It may have been five or six years ago.  I remember watching it, but you know how time flies.

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This years champs vs last years
« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2012, 08:43:44 AM »
106- micic over Boston.  This year
113-brooks over Todd. This year
120-ayersman over petrov. Last year
126-ayeran over McKinley. this year
132-Molloy over McKinley. Last year
138-raley over Jackson. Last year
145-tsrtisis over tsirtsis. This year
152-roach over bradley. Last year
160-welch over Harvey. Last year.
170-mappes over welch. This year
182-lydde over stein. This year
195-sliga over Goldman. This year
220-Reece over krahl. Last year.
285-hall over ??  This year
Just Wrestle!!

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Re: This years champs vs last years
« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2012, 08:59:00 AM »
120-ayersman over petrov. Last year
132-Molloy over McKinley. Last year
182-lydde over stein. This year

Probably the only three I disagree with:

Petrov was simply nasty this year at the State Finals.  This year's version of Petrov might've beaten Ayersman.
I think this year's McKinley beats last years Molloy.  They wrestled about dead-even this year and Molloy was better this year (despite the end result)
I would take Stein over Lynde. 

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Re: Last years champs vs this years champs
« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2012, 12:07:29 PM »
106: Micic
113:brooks
120: Ayersman
126: Ayersman
132: Molloy
138: Jackson
145:Tsirtsis
152:Roach
160: Welch
170: Welch
182: Stein over Lynde in ONE HECK OF A MATCH
195: Sliga
220: Reece
HWT: Hall