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Silence Dogood

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Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« on: February 03, 2012, 08:43:19 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88lKtCpwDfs

Hope everyone has better officiating tomorrow.




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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 08:45:56 PM »
I didn't even understand why there was a question! he clearly signaled 1 for an escape, then 2 takedown


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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 08:50:01 PM »
I swear if anyone on this thread says "He's just a ref, they all make mistakes..."

But in all seriousness, that could very well be the worst call I have ever seen.

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 08:51:11 PM »
It makes some of the reffing calls I have seen look good!
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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 09:23:50 PM »
Wow........so sad  :'(

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 09:30:10 PM »
That is by far the worst call I've ever seen.  The really sad part is that 2 of them missed it.  Unreal.

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 10:01:59 PM »
terrible!
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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 10:08:10 PM »
That is by far the worst call I've ever seen.  The really sad part is that 2 of them missed it.  Unreal.
I think the most sad part is that the ref was so stubborn that he refused to make the right call, even ACKNOWLEDGE the right call, despite the indisputable evidence.

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 10:11:02 PM »
Kind of makes you wonder about instant replay.  But when a ref can't remember what he did 15 seconds ago who knows.  I don't know if that call caused Michigan the win but it sure could have took the wind out of their sails.

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2012, 03:04:24 PM »
Two of them wasnt following the match...wow.

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2012, 06:12:15 PM »
They're only human come on give 'em a break  ;D

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2012, 10:00:17 PM »
They may have been the same ref's at the IU/PU game tonight....
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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2012, 10:22:50 PM »
who won? I hope the boilers, but I'm not a big basketball watcher.
Boiler up!

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2012, 10:29:34 PM »
I can't respond in a fashion suitable to the rest of the population.

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2012, 06:17:30 AM »
Before we jump on the officials take a real good look at the tape again. The clock on screen does not seem to match the board clock. at :59 seconds into the tape the board shows :00 in the clock. Therefore which is correct? Maybe the escape was the right call after all. ???

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2012, 06:18:25 AM »
Something I saw last week, wrestler A turned wrestler B flat on his back(clearly pinned) and the ref was just standing there giving the 5 count while the alternate ref  moved in and motioned to the active ref to call the pin. Finally, after he finishes his 5 count he gets down and calls the pin...I, along with just about everyone else were gabberflasted !



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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2012, 06:25:01 AM »
Before we jump on the officials take a real good look at the tape again. The clock on screen does not seem to match the board clock. at :59 seconds into the tape the board shows :00 in the clock. Therefore which is correct? Maybe the escape was the right call after all. ???

This was an OT situation where both wrestlers get to be on bottom for :30 so what you are seeing is the entire :30 period where Zeerip was down. He clearly gained control with about :10 left.

I watched most of the dual. The clock that you are talking about that showed :00 was like that the whole night - they weren't using it for the matches.


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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2012, 07:04:32 AM »
Something I saw last week, wrestler A turned wrestler B flat on his back(clearly pinned) and the ref was just standing there giving the 5 count while the alternate ref  moved in and motioned to the active ref to call the pin. Finally, after he finishes his 5 count he gets down and calls the pin...I, along with just about everyone else were gabberflasted !



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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2012, 07:20:55 AM »
Some refs believe you have to get a five count before a pin is called.
I've seen the same thing. I don't think it should be that way at all.

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2012, 10:35:39 AM »
It goes without saying that that was a horrible call. It's hard to fathom Big Ten refs could make that bad of a call.

But the more interesting question is, do you think that should have been 1 escape and 2 takedown, or just 2 reversal?

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2012, 10:38:57 AM »
I think most referees would wave off the escape and award just the reversal.
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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2012, 11:01:22 AM »
I think most referees would wave off the escape and award just the reversal.

I agree. Although there was a split second of separation, it was really just one continuous move.

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2012, 11:43:13 AM »
I would agree.  It would be tough to give 1 and 2, but they were separated and facing one another.  I have seen escapes given for less, but it was almost one continuous motion.  Tough call, but definitely at least the 2 point reversal.  He should have racked up another 10 seconds of riding time.  BTW, does riding time continue into OT in college?  Can that be a factor in determining the winner in OT?  I have no idea, just thought I would ask.

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2012, 01:31:00 PM »
I would agree.  It would be tough to give 1 and 2, but they were separated and facing one another.  I have seen escapes given for less, but it was almost one continuous motion.  Tough call, but definitely at least the 2 point reversal.  He should have racked up another 10 seconds of riding time.  BTW, does riding time continue into OT in college?  Can that be a factor in determining the winner in OT?  I have no idea, just thought I would ask.

Yes, it does. Zeerip lost after Heflin got an escape the next period, but had more cumulative riding time for the entire match.

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Re: Anybody see this blown call tonight?
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 01:42:54 PM »
Wow!! Clearly after the scramble should have been reversal with Mich. wrestler in control with 9 sec. left. That is bad. When the refs get together and still shank it.