Author Topic: I.H.S.W.C.A. Middle School State Tournament (Read 11143 times)

Coach Peck · « **on:** January 12, 2009, 09:28:57 AM »

Here is the information many have been waiting for. We have made a few changes in the Procedure for Registration and Weigh-ins for the Middle School State Tournament hosted by the Indiana High School Wrestling Coaches Association (IHSWCA) at New Castle High School on Sunday February 15, 2009.

EVERYONE MUST BE REGISTERED AND PAID at Track Wrestling by the Thursday prior to the toournament.

THERE WILL BE NO SATELLITE WEIGH-INS PRIOR TO THE TOURNAMENT.

Please read the information at the links below for the information you need to know:

http://www.newcastlewrestling.com/MSState_information.htm

This link also includes some Frequently Asked Questions which will be undated from time to time as other question are brought up.

Y2CJ41 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2009, 09:30:25 AM »

Coach, the link is not working.

Coach Peck · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2009, 09:32:53 AM »

Should be now...please try it.

Thanks, Rex

Y2CJ41 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 12, 2009, 09:34:35 AM »

Its good now.

KarlHungus · « **Reply #4 on:** January 12, 2009, 10:55:32 AM »

Are the weight classes the same as last year? I did not see them on the info sheet.

SamDad · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2009, 11:01:56 AM »

What is the start time? What is the link to register online? What are the weight classes? Where can I get a USA card? Can I buy it at the meet?

This sounds like a great tournament, but lots of valuable information is missing.

ssfan · « **Reply #6 on:** January 12, 2009, 11:42:55 AM »

Here is the link to tournament information on the ISWA web site.

http://www.iswa.com/2009%20Middle%20School%20State%20Championship.pdf

WEIGHTS: 75 – 80 – 85 – 90 – 95 – 102 – 110 – 117 – 125 – 132 – 140 – 150 – 160 – 175 – 195 – 220 - 275

Obviously weigh-in information has changed and has not been updated on that document. But I would assume weights will be the same. USA Card is needed according to the document.

SamDad · « **Reply #7 on:** January 12, 2009, 11:51:30 AM »

Thanks, I went to the coaches site and got the 2008 flier.

Is there a better link than just saying trackwrestling? I can't seem to find where to register.

ssfan · « **Reply #8 on:** January 12, 2009, 11:56:07 AM »

http://www.trackwrestling.com/

Find the event listed "IHSWCA Middle School State Championship 02/15/2009 New Castle, IN"

Then hit the button "Enter Tournament"

Coach Peck · « **Reply #9 on:** January 12, 2009, 12:27:09 PM »

There is now a link to the flier with the weight classes in the original post, and someone posted a link to Track Wrestling.

AJ · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2009, 12:46:57 PM »

I believe you can buy your USA Wrestling card online at

www.iswa.com

There is a link on the left hand side of the page.

Jacob · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2009, 05:44:13 PM »

What ever happened to wrestling at the weight you weigh in at. Why in the world would you aloow 5 extra pounds when you are weighing in at your lightest weight of the day anyway. You should go ahead with the satelite weigh ins a week ahead of time if you are going to do this. You will have people cutting 8-12 pounds for this tournament.

AJ · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2009, 05:58:15 PM »

Remember, you will be wearing your shoes, singlet and headgear when you weigh-in.

I love the idea of matside weigh-ins!!!!!!!!!!!

JakeandBreighton · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2009, 06:24:53 PM »

Quote from: AJ on January 12, 2009, 05:58:15 PM

Remember, you will be wearing your shoes, singlet and headgear when you weigh-in.

I love the idea of matside weigh-ins!!!!!!!!!!!

I do too, but it's 2# at most, why give 5#?

AJ · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2009, 06:42:46 PM »

Good point my friend. Good point.

Jacob · « **Reply #15 on:** January 13, 2009, 07:57:39 AM »

I think matside way ins are a great way to go as well. What I feel is foolish is to give a weight allowance. These kids for the most part are coming off their middle school season. They should be at or near their weight. With a singlet and their shoes on, they are weighing at the most 2 lbs over their weight.
Weigh a kid with his singlet and shoes on and then off. Give the diffwerance as the allowance. What is happening here is unhealthy for kids this young. A kid weighing 75 to a 100 pounds should not be cutting more than 3-4 pounds. Giving these kids the allowance you are gives them a weight advantage of 10-12 pounds.
The ISWA went way out of their way to ensure pedifiles are not allowed around our kids. That is great! Lets go a step further and watch out for their health.

Y2CJ41 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 13, 2009, 08:15:30 AM »

There is still no start time listed in any of the information.

Copper1 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 13, 2009, 11:16:18 AM »

I like the idea of this but I would like to know if the wrestlers will be able to check weight prior to weighing in for the match?

JakeandBreighton · « **Reply #18 on:** January 13, 2009, 01:52:34 PM »

Quote from: Copper1 on January 13, 2009, 11:16:18 AM

I like the idea of this but I would like to know if the wrestlers will be able to check weight prior to weighing in for the match?

Are you serious? A 5# allowance, and you would still need to be that close. This is going to be really interesting.

TossYaHard · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2009, 04:37:22 PM »

I dont mind the matside weigh-in.....BUT singlet, headgear and shoes only weigh 2lbs... I have a Befour scale that is certified and i weghed the stuff and it was 2 pounds. at the 102lb weight a kid can have a dry weight of 104.5 and still weigh in with shoes, singlet, and headgear and weigh 106.5 and wrestle 102. Gimme a break thats not fair to me!!
I can see a 3lb allowance but not a five.
Thanks

IMAWRESTLER · « **Reply #20 on:** January 13, 2009, 05:30:33 PM »

Come on guys there will be 2 pounds at the most between wrestlers if they are close to weight. They are trying to make this as fair as they can, they got rid of the satelite weigh-ins (we all know how fair they are!)

TossYaHard · « **Reply #21 on:** January 13, 2009, 06:42:10 PM »

I do agree with you .....But at Danville in March there will be no weight allowance.

AJ · « **Reply #22 on:** January 13, 2009, 06:43:36 PM »

I am thankful for the weight allowance because we have a 12 team tournament we are wrestling in on Saturday.

I do not think kids will cut hard, because it will have a huge impact on their first match and maybe even their second.

jlittlejohn · « **Reply #23 on:** January 13, 2009, 08:28:07 PM »

Weight allowances are common in wrestling (check the college & high school situations and allowances). Take into account the following...

2 lbs. for normal equipment
1 lb. for special equipment (knee/elbow braces, mouthpiece, facemask, etc...)
1 lb. for consecutive day of competition i.e., AJ's situation (possibly even 2 lbs. per IHSAA rules)
1 lb. margin of error for kids who don't have certified scales to check on prior to weigh-in
5 lbs. total not that far fetched.

At this point high schools may recieve a total of a 4 pound allowance (from scratch weight), 2 lb. annual growth allowance +1 lb each for the maximum (2 lbs.) of consecutive days of competition prior to an event.

Just some thoughts not trying to defend or offend anyone

Jacob · « **Reply #24 on:** January 14, 2009, 04:22:27 AM »

Quote from: IMAWRESTLER on January 13, 2009, 05:30:33 PM

Come on guys there will be 2 pounds at the most between wrestlers if they are close to weight. They are trying to make this as fair as they can, they got rid of the satelite weigh-ins (we all know how fair they are!)

How fair is it to the kids who wrestle the weight they weigh? There will always be a way for a few to cheat, why make it legal for them? ie they are wrestling 12 pounds over so lets just make it easy for them to do. In a year or two these kids will have to make weight right before their matches. Why not make them learn the right way?
Theres a novel thought and opinion!!!

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