Anybody see this blown call tonight?

[Silence Dogood]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88lKtCpwDfs

Hope everyone has better officiating tomorrow.

[SBadamsfan]

I didn't even understand why there was a question! he clearly signaled 1 for an escape, then 2 takedown

[Caleb Spires]

I swear if anyone on this thread says "He's just a ref, they all make mistakes..."

But in all seriousness, that could very well be the worst call I have ever seen.

[Y2CJ41]

It makes some of the reffing calls I have seen look good!

[TPL1992]

Wow........so sad 

[WrestleMan]

That is by far the worst call I've ever seen.  The really sad part is that 2 of them missed it.  Unreal.

[Taz90]

terrible!

[Caleb Spires]

That is by far the worst call I've ever seen.  The really sad part is that 2 of them missed it.  Unreal.

I think the most sad part is that the ref was so stubborn that he refused to make the right call, even ACKNOWLEDGE the right call, despite the indisputable evidence.

[rdrodd1]

Kind of makes you wonder about instant replay.  But when a ref can't remember what he did 15 seconds ago who knows.  I don't know if that call caused Michigan the win but it sure could have took the wind out of their sails.

Go Blue.......

[wrestler60160]

Two of them wasnt following the match...wow.

[Walter Sobchak]

They're only human come on give 'em a break 

[rdrodd1]

They may have been the same ref's at the IU/PU game tonight....

[bharmon01]

who won? I hope the boilers, but I'm not a big basketball watcher.
Boiler up!

[tenaciuos1]

I can't respond in a fashion suitable to the rest of the population.

[feez]

Before we jump on the officials take a real good look at the tape again. The clock on screen does not seem to match the board clock. at :59 seconds into the tape the board shows :00 in the clock. Therefore which is correct? Maybe the escape was the right call after all.

[fearless fly]

Something I saw last week, wrestler A turned wrestler B flat on his back(clearly pinned) and the ref was just standing there giving the 5 count while the alternate ref  moved in and motioned to the active ref to call the pin. Finally, after he finishes his 5 count he gets down and calls the pin...I, along with just about everyone else were gabberflasted !



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[Silence Dogood]

Before we jump on the officials take a real good look at the tape again. The clock on screen does not seem to match the board clock. at :59 seconds into the tape the board shows :00 in the clock. Therefore which is correct? Maybe the escape was the right call after all.

This was an OT situation where both wrestlers get to be on bottom for :30 so what you are seeing is the entire :30 period where Zeerip was down. He clearly gained control with about :10 left.

I watched most of the dual. The clock that you are talking about that showed :00 was like that the whole night - they weren't using it for the matches.

[Y2CJ41]

Something I saw last week, wrestler A turned wrestler B flat on his back(clearly pinned) and the ref was just standing there giving the 5 count while the alternate ref  moved in and motioned to the active ref to call the pin. Finally, after he finishes his 5 count he gets down and calls the pin...I, along with just about everyone else were gabberflasted !



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Some refs believe you have to get a five count before a pin is called.

[EvansvilleSpectator]

Some refs believe you have to get a five count before a pin is called.

I've seen the same thing. I don't think it should be that way at all.

[bjax]

It goes without saying that that was a horrible call. It's hard to fathom Big Ten refs could make that bad of a call.

But the more interesting question is, do you think that should have been 1 escape and 2 takedown, or just 2 reversal?

[The Guru]

I think most referees would wave off the escape and award just the reversal.

[bjax]

I think most referees would wave off the escape and award just the reversal.

I agree. Although there was a split second of separation, it was really just one continuous move.

[WrestleMan]

I would agree.  It would be tough to give 1 and 2, but they were separated and facing one another.  I have seen escapes given for less, but it was almost one continuous motion.  Tough call, but definitely at least the 2 point reversal.  He should have racked up another 10 seconds of riding time.  BTW, does riding time continue into OT in college?  Can that be a factor in determining the winner in OT?  I have no idea, just thought I would ask.

[Silence Dogood]

I would agree.  It would be tough to give 1 and 2, but they were separated and facing one another.  I have seen escapes given for less, but it was almost one continuous motion.  Tough call, but definitely at least the 2 point reversal.  He should have racked up another 10 seconds of riding time.  BTW, does riding time continue into OT in college?  Can that be a factor in determining the winner in OT?  I have no idea, just thought I would ask.

Yes, it does. Zeerip lost after Heflin got an escape the next period, but had more cumulative riding time for the entire match.

[MCKAJC]

Wow!! Clearly after the scramble should have been reversal with Mich. wrestler in control with 9 sec. left. That is bad. When the refs get together and still shank it.