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Possible Ohio State scandal with old wrestling coach

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14 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said:

Once again you fail to see the point, you don't know how someone would react to that situation. Serial perpetrators such as what this guy is accused of pick their victims very precisely. They go after weak(mentally and physically) individuals and prey upon them. Wrestlers don't often fit that mold, but there are some that do. 

The reason Disabato and company are going after Jordan is he's a lightning rod. Saying that the other assistants or even Hellickson knew and didn't report anything wouldn't create the media fervor that going after Jordan would. It would take a lot of real evidence for anything legal to happen to Jordan. The biggest damage will be perceived character issues

Disabato & the other wrestlers speaking out are claiming the doctor held their genitalia longer than they thought it should during a check for a hernia, and that the doctor had cold hands. They have not claimed anything beyond that - talking just about the wrestlers and what may have been communicated. Hard to take action back then on just that. 

That is not exactly indicative of abuse, less so if you are not a specialist or knowledgeable to the procedure, etc. Creepy, sure, but not illegal in that context. The other aspect mentioned is the voyeurism on behalf of the people trying to use the shower or watch, which may or may not have included the doctor, which Hellickson has publicly said he addressed

Their quotes:

Anonymous Athlete  - ""I remember coming up and saying, 'Strauss held my balls longer than normal"

Disabato -  "The former wrestler recalled one of his encounters with Strauss, saying, "He examined my genitalia in detail. There was no masturbation or anything, but he definitely looked it over and checked it out."

 

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50 minutes ago, Wrestling Scholar said:

 

 

 

Think of what happened to the staff of people involved at PSU and MSU.   Starting from the athletic director to all the coaches on the staff and to the campus security,   I think they would be worried about their career and reputation based on the results of this investigation.   Of course they're not going to say anything that incriminates themselves.  At least Hellickson had the courage to complain a little bit. 

So you know all of the 7 guys that have made statements so well, that you can go online and attack their flawed  character and as being misfits that Jordan didn't like or get a long with being the reason they're now coming at Jordan.   

Yes,  on the "Medal of Honor",  each school gets a female and male recipient each year based on athletic and academic success.     Former winners include John Wooden, Drew Brees, Bob Griese (Purdue has the big names), and aforementioned Mke Disabato.   This is one of the most prestigious awards in the Big 10.

Yes Ohio State is a fine school,   but you say getting a diploma there is like getting a diploma in a cracker box.   My son and his wife  graduated from the Ohio State University and a lot of his good friends did.  They would really be very offended by that comment.   My son got an accounting degree and a good job with PWC in Columbus.  He worked his butt off.  Keep in mind the average ACT for OSU is 29.  I would like to see how many people on this board ever got a 29 or higher on the ACT. 

I wrestled at the college level in that era albeit at the NAIA level,  but I don't remember that era as the "Creepy trainers" era.  Maybe I was lucky and missed the creepy guys.  Was there really a problem?

So far, the public claims by all 5 is that the doctor may have held on longer during hernia check, and they felt he ogled them in the shower. They, so far, publicly indicate nothing beyond that. Creepy, yes, and easy to claim abuse 30 years later. All have claimed none of them told Jordan of any 'alleged abuse'.  The definition has changed in their eyes. 

But if that is all they said happened in passing to the coaches, legally hard to allege they knew about 'abuse' - weirdos, yes. It's totally another level if any of the students had also said he acted beyond their current allegations, if you now what I mean.  All they have attested to is that they told Jordan kinew that the doctor was creepy. IMO, They are taking a serious situation with blurred lines, and exploiting it for personal gain. 

 

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Im not even coming at it as Jordan more so the school administration. If jordan was told and didnt report it that is a big issue. I would hope that if I told a coach, My superior about an inappropriate interaction with another staff member that made me feel uncomfortable that something would be reported. I think for me thats the true thing I want to know. yes its decades ago but things like that can traumatize people. My hope is that if anything people can start reporting these kind of things and come out when things are not done. 

Its a side tangent but one big issue is the fact is that people with power and money can simply settle out of court and hit someone with a NDA where they cant legally discuss any of it with anyone allowing people with a big enough wallet to get away with almost anything. Dont think its relevent to this case but a problem none the less either way might be time to shut this guy down. It bums me out trying to find Fargo info and seeing this lol but I let Joe make that call. Enough of you dislike me as it is I dont think adding political beliefs will be a help to that :P

 

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9 hours ago, Fabio Jr. said:

Im not even coming at it as Jordan more so the school administration. If jordan was told and didnt report it that is a big issue. I would hope that if I told a coach, My superior about an inappropriate interaction with another staff member that made me feel uncomfortable that something would be reported. I think for me thats the true thing I want to know. yes its decades ago but things like that can traumatize people. My hope is that if anything people can start reporting these kind of things and come out when things are not done. 

Its a side tangent but one big issue is the fact is that people with power and money can simply settle out of court and hit someone with a NDA where they cant legally discuss any of it with anyone allowing people with a big enough wallet to get away with almost anything. Dont think its relevent to this case but a problem none the less either way might be time to shut this guy down. It bums me out trying to find Fargo info and seeing this lol but I let Joe make that call. Enough of you dislike me as it is I dont think adding political beliefs will be a help to that :P

 

 

Agree - The conundrum is, report what?  "If Jordan was told and didn't report it that is a big issue". There is a wide river between players being creeped out & sarcastically making light of "the doctor with cold hands", to the MSU and PSU situation. The doctor may have, to be determined after investigation, have been found to cross that line. If so, hang him, go after those who knew.

But what get's me is that both instigators on the wrestling side have made this about Jordan and not the doctor; yet both these tools, Disabato & Yetts, have both claimed that NOTHING happened except the issues of what they believed was extra attention during a hernia exam, and even then, they said they sarcastically joked about it in the locker room as a running legend. And further, they ALL indicated that they individually never knew or never reported of anything of specific abuse to Jordan. But yet they still want to claim "he knew", because of locker room banter. The stuff that college kids say, stories they talk about, and did on the weekend gets pretty crazy - a coach who does not 'pal' around with the guys is not going to stick around and listen to that for good reason...

Mike Disabato even tried to extort Jeff Jordan by copying him on the crazy emails he was sending to Jim Jordan, even though Jeff never wrestled or coached at Ohio State. 

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Jim Jordan class act - becoming to powerful for da libtards- Disabito is a crook - stole money and scamed people - by da way what do you think would happen if a pencil neck doc grabed da package of a d1 wrestler - I know how da rat would handle him 

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