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3A Team State Qualification Scores (through state)

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Scores are now updated through state. The top 9 here plus Northridge as the Fort Wayne automatic bid will receive team state invitations soon.

After bids have been confirmed, teams eligible for the two vote-in wildcards will be sent information sheets to fill out regarding their incoming talent and other information about the potential quality of their team for next season. If all bids would be accepted, Penn, Warren Central, and Carmel would be looked at for the two vote-in bids because they are the only teams within 15 points of the first and/or second available vote-in candidate. If one bid is declined, it would bring Mishawaka into the mix and two declined bids would allow Zionsville, Crown Point, and Merrillville into the discussion for at least one of the vote-in spots.

Rank Class 3A Teams Score Return
1 Indianapolis Cathedral 257 10
2 Perry Meridian 229.5 9
3 Chesterton 229 8
4 Columbus East 224.5 10
5 Evansville Mater Dei 222.5 8
6 Roncalli 218 12
7 Brownsburg 215.5 8
8 Portage 205.5 4
9 Avon 204.5 9
10 Penn 203 9
11 Warren Central 198 13
12 Carmel 196 12
13 Mishawaka 181 12
14 Zionsville 172 8
15 Crown Point 169 6
16 Merrillville 169 8
17 Northridge 161 9
18 Castle 157.5 8
19 Carroll (Fort Wayne) 156 9
20 North Central (Indianapolis) 147 10
21 Bloomington South 143.5 8
22 Pendleton Heights 142 11
23 Jay County 138 10
24 Westfield 134 10
25 Hamilton Southeastern 133 9
26 Huntington North 131 12
27 Harrison (West Lafayette) 127 7
28 Greenfield-Central 126 8
29 Lawrence North 126 9
30 Plainfield 125 13
31 Floyd Central 124 9
32 Lake Central 124 13
33 Lowell 123.5 10
34 Center Grove 121 8
35 McCutcheon 121 10
36 Mount Vernon (Fortville) 120 10
37 Hobart 119 8
38 Elkhart Central 118 7
39 Goshen 118 8
40 LaPorte 118 9
41 Noblesville 117 13
42 New Palestine 116 11
43 Martinsville 114 12
44 Jeffersonville 109 8
45 Fishers 108 12
46 Franklin Community 107 10
47 Lawrence Central 107 9
48 Fort Wayne Snider 107 10
49 Anderson 101 8
50 Mooresville 100 9
51 Seymour 100 12
52 Homestead 100 9
53 Plymouth 99 8
54 Ben Davis 98 9
55 Decatur Central 98 14
56 Southport 95 8
57 Evansville F.J. Reitz 91 8
58 Greenwood Community 89 10
59 Jennings County 89 8
60 Whiteland Community 89 10
61 Terre Haute South Vigo 86 11
62 Bloomington North 84 9
63 Evansville Central 84 10
64 Franklin Central 82 13
65 Elkhart Memorial 78 6
66 New Albany 77 6
67 Kankakee Valley 77 10
68 Columbus North 75 11
69 South Bend Riley 75 12
70 East Noble 72 10
71 Lafayette Jefferson 72 8
72 Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger 70 9
73 Concord 69 8
74 East Central 68 11
75 Munster 68 7
76 Muncie Central 67 6
77 Evansville Harrison 66 9
78 Highland 62 7
79 Michigan City 62 8
80 Jasper 61 12
81 Valparaiso 60 9
82 Fort Wayne South Side 57 9
83 Hammond Morton 53 4
84 South Bend Adams 53 9
85 Fort Wayne North Side 50 10
86 Connersville 49 8
87 Shelbyville 49 9
88 Kokomo 49 12
89 Warsaw Community 48 11
90 Fort Wayne Northrop 47 10
91 Pike 46 7
92 Fort Wayne Wayne 44 6
93 Logansport 44 11
94 DeKalb 43 12
95 Evansville North 42 10
96 East Chicago Central 41 8
97 Bedford North Lawrence 30 6
98 South Bend Clay 28 5
99 Richmond 24 7
100 Terre Haute North Vigo 23 6
Edited by maligned

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May I be the first person to just say: I really hope Cathedral can find space in their schedule to come. These scores make them the biggest year-ahead Team State favorite we've had in 3A since we went to this format. Right now, they'd be favored by 10-12 points over anybody in the state. It's going to be tricky, though. They've got their own super dual, the city championship, the Traicoff, and the Al Smith that I'm sure they don't want to give up. Here's hoping they find a way to make it work with such a special team expected back.

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8 minutes ago, OldGoatGrappler said:

“Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.”   :wacko:

What is that referring to?

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44 minutes ago, ontherise219 said:

I think Crown point will be pretty good next year. They would be a vote in right now correct? 

Crown Point will need some help.  Maligned will know,  but I think you have to be within 15 points of the 10th team to get vote in status. I saw they had some good freshman coming in.

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3 hours ago, maligned said:

May I be the first person to just say: I really hope Cathedral can find space in their schedule to come. These scores make them the biggest year-ahead Team State favorite we've had in 3A since we went to this format. Right now, they'd be favored by 10-12 points over anybody in the state. It's going to be tricky, though. They've got their own super dual, the city championship, the Traicoff, and the Al Smith that I'm sure they don't want to give up. Here's hoping they find a way to make it work with such a special team expected back.

Unfortunately, some of their wrestlers and fans have made it known they don’t consider participating in it worth anything, as well as, other similarly unfavorable statements rather than just saying their tight schedule would not allow for it.  I’m guessing they would have to alter that mentality before accepting the invitation. I was very disappointed this years decline  turned in a chance for some people representing their school to disparage this event we are fortunate enough to have.   It would be great to see them there, and they do have a great chance to win.  However, if they choose to decline again at least respect the opportunity it allows team to face the top competition reguarldess of the IHSAA feeling about it being a recognized title.  

Edited by MattM

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So really... if we assume that cathedral is out... the only drama would be which two teams make it in between (warren, Carmel, and mishawaka). 

If Cathdral accepts, the vote in will be between (penn, warren, and Carmel).

it would take multiple teams declining to get anyone else in. 

Is this correct? 

 

Edited by Mattyb

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6 hours ago, maligned said:

May I be the first person to just say: I really hope Cathedral can find space in their schedule to come. These scores make them the biggest year-ahead Team State favorite we've had in 3A since we went to this format. Right now, they'd be favored by 10-12 points over anybody in the state. It's going to be tricky, though. They've got their own super dual, the city championship, the Traicoff, and the Al Smith that I'm sure they don't want to give up. Here's hoping they find a way to make it work with such a special team expected back.

With the new rule of dropping a tournament for two dual meets you may see more teams declining due to having commitments to events already. They can only have six tournaments(or super duals) so it could be a very tight fit for programs to keep an open spot for this event.

Cathedral for instance has
Traicoff
Al Smith
City Championship
Host their own super dual
Mason, Ohio tournament
North Central Invite

They have been scheduled to host another super dual in early January, but it has been cancelled the past two years due to weather.

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