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2 hours ago, fearless fly said:

I belive it wasnt that long ago that IN did have wrestlebacks and alot of good for nuthings complained that some semi states didnt get finished till wee hours of the morn and "poof"....they were gone....

We didn't have wrestle-backs, they were a "wrestle for true 5th"-backs.

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5 hours ago, teammills said:

Several coaches that we talked to during recruiting didn't put a lot of value into the placements of our tournament.  Obviously, the champ is the champ and deserves the attention as it's one of the toughest State tournaments in the country, but the fact is our placements really aren't true placements without wrestlebacks.  I'm not trying to open Pandora's box, but more than one coach mentioned how dumb a first round match of Colton Cummings vs Alec White was last year (the year before it was Triana vs Cummings in SS Blood Round).  One has to win and one has to lose, but the fact that the loser can't come back to place seems absurd,  Of the 2 coaches we talked with who actually came to our State tournament, each watched Friday night and then left on Saturday morning for the Illinois State Tournament.  Their reasoning was they preferred to see more kids wrestle in a State with class wrestling, than the limited bang for the buck in our State.  Everyone said our State tournament environment was awesome, but no one liked our State's format.  I'm not trying to turn this into a 25 page topic, but that's what we heard straight from multiple D1 coaches.

Let the debates begin...

I have heard similar things from college coaches. If a kid they are interested loses, how do they handle it and wrestleback for example. They also want to maximize the number of athletes they can see,  and that wasn't just wrestling coaches but cross country college coaches as well. 

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14 hours ago, navy80 said:

I would really hate to see a Mills/Garcia vs Rooks ticket round match! I hope of or two of the studs at 126 drop down or go up!

Like 2016 at 106?  Garcia finishes 2nd to Mills in the regional and draws Cayden Rooks in the Ticket Round.  Garcia wins in TB and goes on to win state.  Rooks stays home and then bumps to 120 last year and wins state.  Likely going to happen again this year.  

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9 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said:

We didn't have wrestle-backs, they were a "wrestle for true 5th"-backs.

thanks for clarifying but still was changed because of all the complaining for length of some semi states because of those wrestlebacks if I recall correctly and I will admit the recalling gets hazier as the grey hairs get whiter...: (

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Semi State wrestle backs will always be a discussion however if you have ever had a kid make it through the ticket round...well there are no words!! Atmosphere is indescribable!!!

Wait, wasn't this about the depth at 126?? DEEEEEP!!

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It appears that this freakish phenomenon of 126 lb beasts is not confined to Indiana only. The 126 weight class in Ohio is also one of the deepest , in the division 1 class.  

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3 hours ago, Juggernaut said:

It appears that this freakish phenomenon of 126 lb beasts is not confined to Indiana only. The 126 weight class in Ohio is also one of the deepest , in the division 1 class.  

too bad all the divisions dont wrestle each other...would be even better !   : )

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3 hours ago, Juggernaut said:

It appears that this freakish phenomenon of 126 lb beasts is not confined to Indiana only. The 126 weight class in Ohio is also one of the deepest , in the division 1 class.  

Interesting ? Any of those wrestlers wrestled at Brecksville tournament ? I know Brecksville HS is D1 Class in Ohio as well as others that was there. 

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30 minutes ago, fearless fly said:

too bad all the divisions dont wrestle each other...would be even better !   : )

They wrestle each other all the time in tournaments throughout the season the same way our teams do.

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8 hours ago, TeamGarcia said:

Interesting ? Any of those wrestlers wrestled at Brecksville tournament ? I know Brecksville HS is D1 Class in Ohio as well as others that was there. 

126- Tied For Deepest Weight (Top 25)

1. Mick Burnett (Elyria) Sophomore

2. Gio DiSabato (Hilliard Davidson) Senior

3. Gus Sutton (Austintown-Fitch) Junior

4. Bryce Hepner (St. Edward) Sophomore

5. Jimmy Carmany (Brecksville) Sophomore

6. Jabari Thomas (Fairfield) Junior

7. Micah Norwood (Lancaster) Freshman

8. Jack Collins (Elder) Sophomore

9. Kyle Gruber (Massillon Perry) Senior

10. Nick Nastasi (Kenston) Sophomore

11. D.J. Huff (St. Ignatius) Junior

12. Mason Kleinberg (Springboro) Sophomore

13. Alec Bailey (Green) Senior

14. Derek Fields (Brunswick) Freshman

15. Charles Chapman (Fremont Ross) Junior

16. Chase Walczak (Perrysburg) Senior

17. Dylan Waugh (Mason) Senior

18. Casey Wiles (LaSalle) Freshman

19. Bailey Suddeth (Vandalia Butler) Junior

20. Brice Taylor (Holland Springfield) Senior

21. Joe Pascale (Troy) Senior

22. Tristan Zahoransky (Solon) Sophomore

23. Jaivon Jones (Shaker Hts.) Junior

24. Blaike Ellis (Whitmer) Senior

25. Tanner Donathan (Western Brown) Junior

Ohio D1 class. 

Edited by Juggernaut

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1 hour ago, Juggernaut said:

126- Tied For Deepest Weight (Top 25)

1. Mick Burnett (Elyria) Sophomore

2. Gio DiSabato (Hilliard Davidson) Senior

3. Gus Sutton (Austintown-Fitch) Junior

4. Bryce Hepner (St. Edward) Sophomore

5. Jimmy Carmany (Brecksville) Sophomore

6. Jabari Thomas (Fairfield) Junior

7. Micah Norwood (Lancaster) Freshman

8. Jack Collins (Elder) Sophomore

9. Kyle Gruber (Massillon Perry) Senior

10. Nick Nastasi (Kenston) Sophomore

11. D.J. Huff (St. Ignatius) Junior

12. Mason Kleinberg (Springboro) Sophomore

13. Alec Bailey (Green) Senior

14. Derek Fields (Brunswick) Freshman

15. Charles Chapman (Fremont Ross) Junior

16. Chase Walczak (Perrysburg) Senior

17. Dylan Waugh (Mason) Senior

18. Casey Wiles (LaSalle) Freshman

19. Bailey Suddeth (Vandalia Butler) Junior

20. Brice Taylor (Holland Springfield) Senior

21. Joe Pascale (Troy) Senior

22. Tristan Zahoransky (Solon) Sophomore

23. Jaivon Jones (Shaker Hts.) Junior

24. Blaike Ellis (Whitmer) Senior

25. Tanner Donathan (Western Brown) Junior

Ohio D1 class. 

So, this is some of Indiana wrestlers faced Brecksville Holiday Tournament had class ranked 

D1- #1, #2, #5, #6, #8, #16, #18 

D2- #1 Decatur 

agree with you very deep in Ohio. 

I think DiSabato was Ranked #1 coming into this tournament. 

Edited by TeamGarcia

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3 minutes ago, TeamGarcia said:

So, this is some of Indiana wrestlers faced Brecksville Holiday Tournament had class ranked 

D1- #1, #2, #5, #6, #8, #16, #18 

D2- #1 Decatur 

agree with you very deep in Ohio. 

I think DiSabato was Ranked #1 coming into this tournament. 

Not sure these kids wrestled, but Fremont Ross and Solon were both at Brecksville too.

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2 hours ago, Juggernaut said:

126- Tied For Deepest Weight (Top 25)

1. Mick Burnett (Elyria) Sophomore

2. Gio DiSabato (Hilliard Davidson) Senior

3. Gus Sutton (Austintown-Fitch) Junior

4. Bryce Hepner (St. Edward) Sophomore

5. Jimmy Carmany (Brecksville) Sophomore

6. Jabari Thomas (Fairfield) Junior

7. Micah Norwood (Lancaster) Freshman

8. Jack Collins (Elder) Sophomore

9. Kyle Gruber (Massillon Perry) Senior

10. Nick Nastasi (Kenston) Sophomore

11. D.J. Huff (St. Ignatius) Junior

12. Mason Kleinberg (Springboro) Sophomore

13. Alec Bailey (Green) Senior

14. Derek Fields (Brunswick) Freshman

15. Charles Chapman (Fremont Ross) Junior

16. Chase Walczak (Perrysburg) Senior

17. Dylan Waugh (Mason) Senior

18. Casey Wiles (LaSalle) Freshman

19. Bailey Suddeth (Vandalia Butler) Junior

20. Brice Taylor (Holland Springfield) Senior

21. Joe Pascale (Troy) Senior

22. Tristan Zahoransky (Solon) Sophomore

23. Jaivon Jones (Shaker Hts.) Junior

24. Blaike Ellis (Whitmer) Senior

25. Tanner Donathan (Western Brown) Junior

Ohio D1 class. 

 

10 hours ago, TeamGarcia said:

Interesting ? Any of those wrestlers wrestled at Brecksville tournament ? I know Brecksville HS is D1 Class in Ohio as well as others that was there. 

I did some research and Garcia wrestled a few of these guys. 

beat #2 Disabato(got 4th) 2-1 

beat#5 Carmany (got 7th) 8-6

beat #16 Walczac(dnp) 8-4

Lost to #10 in nation Decatur 14-5 in the Finals

 

#1 Burnett placed 3rd lost 13-4 to champ Beat#5(IN)Poynter 9-3,beat #2 Disabato 3-2

#5(Indiana) Poynter placed 6th lost to #2 Disabato 5-3 and unranked Massey 2-1

#6 Thomas placed 8th got pinned by Champion lost to #5 Carmany 18-4

#15 Chapman did not place only lost to Champion 9-3

#22 Zahoransky did not place 

#25 Donathan did not place

 

Asa getting to finals shows that he has definitely reached the top of the tier just below B. Lee and M.Paris. Can make an argument that he is in serious discussions for the 3rd best I've right now. Great kid and Amazing wrestler. Keep up the good work TeamGarcia

To say this is one of the toughest High School tournaments in the nation is not that far fetched. When ranked guys from Ohio are not even placing top 8 and one of best wrestlers in Indiana at 126 placed lower than what he is ranked shows it is just insanely competitive. It looks more like a tough Semi state Tournament or better. Id love to see Mater Dei,Cathedral, Brownsburg and Perry Meridian try and get in this. 

Edited by Wrestling4EVER

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55 minutes ago, Wrestling4EVER said:

 

I did some research and Garcia wrestled a few of these guys. 

beat #2 Disabato(got 4th) 2-1 

beat#5 Carmany (got 7th) 8-6

beat #16 Walczac(dnp) 8-4

Lost to #10 in nation Decatur 14-5 in the Finals

 

#1 Burnett placed 3rd lost 13-4 to champ Beat#5(IN)Poynter 9-3,beat #2 Disabato 3-2

#5(Indiana) Poynter placed 6th lost to #2 Disabato 5-3 and unranked Massey 2-1

#6 Thomas placed 8th got pinned by Champion lost to #5 Carmany 18-4

#15 Chapman did not place only lost to Champion 9-3

#22 Zahoransky did not place 

#25 Donathan did not place

 

Asa getting to finals shows that he has definitely reached the top of the tier just below B. Lee and M.Paris. Can make an argument that he is in serious discussions for the 3rd best I've right now. Great kid and Amazing wrestler. Keep up the good work TeamGarcia

To say this is one of the toughest High School tournaments in the nation is not that far fetched. When ranked guys from Ohio are not even placing top 8 and one of best wrestlers in Indiana at 126 placed lower than what he is ranked shows it is just insanely competitive. It looks more like a tough Semi state Tournament or better. Id love to see Mater Dei,Cathedral, Brownsburg and Perry Meridian try and get in this. 

Looks like next year Brecksville will fall on a Sunday, no Indiana HS teams are allowed to wrestle on Sundays. Hopefully from what I heard they are going to move back the days so Indiana Teams can comeback  . If not I’m sure Avon will seek out the best competition out there for their wrestlers. 

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We could get another 2017 State Finals rematch when Brownsburg visits Columbus East later this week future match at 126 . This past weekend fans seen a State Finals Rematch at 113 with #1 Curtis vs #2 Black. Gotta love great matchups this late in the year !

This weight class gets better & better every week with studs going head 2 head .

#7 Ty Mills vs. #2 Cayden Rooks 

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On 1/15/2018 at 7:42 AM, TeamGarcia said:

So, this is some of Indiana wrestlers faced Brecksville Holiday Tournament had class ranked 

D1- #1, #2, #5, #6, #8, #16, #18 

D2- #1 Decatur 

agree with you very deep in Ohio. 

I think DiSabato was Ranked #1 coming into this tournament. 

I believe DiSabato was ranked #1. These rankings were redone on the 10th . 

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