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Just goes to show how clueless the IHSAA is in regards to our sport. In our Sectional (17), they added Zionsville (2500 enrollment) to a Sectional where the next largest school has an enrollment of 650. I doubt any other Sectional has that big of a discrepancy.[/quote

 

Actually in your sectional Zionsville has an enrollment of 1928 and the next biggest school is Crawfordsville at 705.

 

Jeffersonville is listed at 2066 and the next biggest school is Corydon at 716. So there is a sectional with a bigger discrepancy

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This committee was comprised of one coach from each regional. As a representative of the Bloomington South regional, my purpose was to make our regional more competitive at the semi-state level. It was our goal as a committee to achieve a closer balance at the regional level. This was not an easy task to do, as there were many things to consider.

 

Nothing is perfect, but we did our best as a committee and there were reasons behind each change. I cannot speak on behalf of each regional because I was working directly with sectionals that could impact me.

If the goal is to achieve a better balance, they failed miserably at the Evansville North Regional.

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I apologize for the error. I found the IHSAA enrollment form and my numbers were indeed off. Regardless, you move the 36th biggest HS in the state over to a Sectional where the next biggest HS ranks 153rd. I just don't see the logic in doing that. It makes more sense to send HSE and Fishers over to the Elwood Sectional and leave ZV and WB in S18. That would at least strengthen the PH Regional, IMO. At the end of the day, it is what it is...I would just like to hear the rationale of why they chose to move the teams that they did.

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So, is Tecumseh in or out at Castle. They're listed as the teams there, then under changes they're one of the teams listed as out.

 

I agree with Hook in regards to the balance between the 2 sites here in Evv. While Castle in the past had to battle for the win, now I don't see them being contested too much for now.

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Sectional 1 first has to be able to field full teams before any ridiculous notion of "strength" is discussed. We had the second most sectional forfeits this year. Efforts have been made in the past to work more closely together across team lines, but a few teams want nothing to do with it for a few reasons.

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PH regional needs strength? Really, not sure what your point is but you may want to check your school sizes again. Sounds like you are for class wrestling. No problem here. Got to see Big O hand out medals for 3A and 2 schools win there first state championships in basketball. The sport that was ruined, course didn't hear or see anything but excitement and celebration!

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The south's realignment is very curious

 

Floyd Central went from driving 16 miles to Jeffersonville to 72 to Southridge and 77 miles to Bloomington South for sectional and regional.

 
New Albany went from driving 9 miles to Jeffersonville to 74 to Southridge and 88 to Bloomington South for sectional and regional.

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That's my biggest issue. We have been spoiled with only driving 10-15 minutes for sectional and regionals. Also, I don't see the reason for moving two of the stronger teams out of an already weaker sectionals.

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sectional 1 is pretty weak

Sectional 1 was weak before they took us out and replaced us with west side, now extremely weaker.  Merrillville will be sectional champs for the rest of time and will most likely hold the state record for consectutive team sectional champions.  They should send 14 to regionals every year as well.

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Castle losing the regional is a travesty. A huge part SW Indiana HS Wrestling tradition is going away. Very sad day.

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Enrollment information

Semi-State
NC 84094
EV 83275
ECC 71169
FW 61702

Regional
Mooresville- 31259
Perry Meridian- 24257
Pendleton Heights- 24060
Carroll- 22913
North Mont- 22759
Crown Point- 20746
Bloom South- 20627
Hobart- 18468
Penn- 18458
Goshen- 16483
Ev North- 15753
Jeffersonville- 15636
Logansport- 13497
Richmond- 13018
Peru- 12096
Jay County- 10210

Sectional
Sectional- Teams- Enrollment
25. Avon- 11- 18137
18. Frankfort- 10- 16597
20. Lawrence Central- 11- 13664
26. Mooresville- 10- 13122
12. New Haven- 10- 12234
22. Warren Central- 11- 12130
21. Southport- 11- 12127
27. Bloomington North- 11- 11998
05. Mishawaka- 8- 11413
01. East Chicago Central- 10- 10790
11. Carroll (Fort Wayne)- 10- 10679
19. Elwood- 11- 10396
04. LaPorte- 8- 10382
03. Crown Point- 8- 10364
09. Elkhart Memorial- 8- 10348
29. Jennings County- 9- 9561
28. Southridge- 9- 8629
08. Lafayette Jefferson- 10- 8314
31. Castle- 10- 7926
32. Evansville Central- 9- 7827
24. Franklin County- 10- 7816
14. Oak Hill- 11- 7696
02. Griffith- 8- 7678
06. Plymouth- 9- 7045
17. Crawfordsville- 11- 6162
10. Westview- 9- 6135
30. Jeffersonville- 10- 6075
16. Delta- 10- 5399
23. Shenandoah- 10- 5202
07. Twin Lakes- 11- 5183
15. Jay County- 9- 4811
13. Peru- 10- 4400

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Still baffles my mind that HSE and Fishers are 5-10 minutes from Pendleton Heights but they are sent all the way over to our regional (North Montgomery). I guess you can throw Westfield and Carmel in there as well. They are both about 30 minutes away from Pendleton but drive probably over an hour to get to North Montgomery.

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Still baffles my mind that HSE and Fishers are 5-10 minutes from Pendleton Heights but they are sent all the way over to our regional (North Montgomery). I guess you can throw Westfield and Carmel in there as well. They are both about 30 minutes away from Pendleton but drive probably over an hour to get to North Montgomery.

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Not saying the moves are right or wrong but one thing to consider is that the host site for Sectional or Regional (Semi-state for that matter) is usually not located in the center of that district. So yes in some cases the drive time may be shorter to a different host site, but that's only due to the host site being located farther from that districts "central location," as well.

 

It is also helpful to understand that in many areas there is only so many "main roads" that lead to the host site. Some of which are not direct point to point connections between your school and the host site. So yes, to get to the host site on those main roads it is conceivable that some schools may pass by another school district which attends a different host site on the way to their own site.

 

While this does not solve all the issue, looking at it that way does help show why some schools travel time has changed.

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Enrollment information

 

Semi-State

NC 84094

EV 83275

ECC 71169

FW 61702

 

Regional

Mooresville- 31259

Perry Meridian- 24257

Pendleton Heights- 24060

Carroll- 22913

North Mont- 22759

Crown Point- 20746

Bloom South- 20627

Hobart- 18468

Penn- 18458

Goshen- 16483

Ev North- 15753

Jeffersonville- 15636

Logansport- 13497

Richmond- 13018

Peru- 12096

Jay County- 10210

 

Sectional

Sectional- Teams- Enrollment

25. Avon- 11- 18137

18. Frankfort- 10- 16597

20. Lawrence Central- 11- 13664

26. Mooresville- 10- 13122

12. New Haven- 10- 12234

22. Warren Central- 11- 12130

21. Southport- 11- 12127

27. Bloomington North- 11- 11998

05. Mishawaka- 8- 11413

01. East Chicago Central- 10- 10790

11. Carroll (Fort Wayne)- 10- 10679

19. Elwood- 11- 10396

04. LaPorte- 8- 10382

03. Crown Point- 8- 10364

09. Elkhart Memorial- 8- 10348

29. Jennings County- 9- 9561

28. Southridge- 9- 8629

08. Lafayette Jefferson- 10- 8314

31. Castle- 10- 7926

32. Evansville Central- 9- 7827

24. Franklin County- 10- 7816

14. Oak Hill- 11- 7696

02. Griffith- 8- 7678

06. Plymouth- 9- 7045

17. Crawfordsville- 11- 6162

10. Westview- 9- 6135

30. Jeffersonville- 10- 6075

16. Delta- 10- 5399

23. Shenandoah- 10- 5202

07. Twin Lakes- 11- 5183

15. Jay County- 9- 4811

13. Peru- 10- 4400

Why was this not taken into consideration? No reason for these numbers to have such a wide range. You have a sectional with 3 of the top 10 and 4 of the top 16 enrollments in the whole state. I do realize that people choose to live in populated areas, but geesh. You got some of the big schools killing each other and others just rolling little schools (no offense to them). Crazy. You clearly have teams traveling longer distances for some reason. Might as well have them travel for a good reason... to make these number more even.

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Any word on Cowan?  They will more than double their wrestlers next year... and they have a very strong middle school and youth program coming up...  Curious to see if they will bring them back to Delta or move them...

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Still baffles my mind that HSE and Fishers are 5-10 minutes from Pendleton Heights but they are sent all the way over to our regional (North Montgomery). I guess you can throw Westfield and Carmel in there as well. They are both about 30 minutes away from Pendleton but drive probably over an hour to get to North Montgomery.

 

Another solution to this could be to move the regional to Zionsville which hosts the other sectional and is more of a midpoint

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The changes that were made to sectional 22 are disappointing. It was one of the toughest sectionals in the state with Roncalli, BG, WC, FC, GF and New Pal battling with MV, TC and Shelbyville throwing a few into the mix. Was definitely some great competition. Move will all but guarantee a WC kid will make it out in every weight class.

 

22. Warren Central/Shelbyville

Eastern Hancock

Franklin Central

Greenfield-Central

Indianapolis Howe

Indianapolis Lutheran

Indianapolis Marshall

Indianapolis Scecina

New Palestine

Shelbyville

Triton Central

Warren Central

 

Changes

Beech Grove- Out

Eastern Hancock- In

Indianapolis Howe- In

Indianapolis Scecina- In

Roncalli- Out

Mount Vernon(Fortville)- Out

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I bet that 90% of the coaches involved in the re-alignment committee will not respond, they will just sit behind closed doors. I was not aware of any meeting or conversation that they had with our head coach to ask on suggestion or opinions.

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The changes that were made to sectional 22 are disappointing. It was one of the toughest sectionals in the state with Roncalli, BG, WC, FC, GF and New Pal battling with MV, TC and Shelbyville throwing a few into the mix. Was definitely some great competition. Move will all but guarantee a WC kid will make it out in every weight class.
 
22. Warren Central/Shelbyville
Eastern Hancock
Franklin Central
Greenfield-Central
Indianapolis Howe
Indianapolis Lutheran
Indianapolis Marshall
Indianapolis Scecina
New Palestine
Shelbyville
Triton Central
Warren Central
 
Changes
Beech Grove- Out
Eastern Hancock- In
Indianapolis Howe- In
Indianapolis Scecina- In
Roncalli- Out
Mount Vernon(Fortville)- Out

 

 

I get what you are saying, but you have to admit that it makes the Regional more balanced. 

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Why was this not taken into consideration? No reason for these numbers to have such a wide range. You have a sectional with 3 of the top 10 and 4 of the top 16 enrollments in the whole state. I do realize that people choose to live in populated areas, but geesh. You got some of the big schools killing each other and others just rolling little schools (no offense to them). Crazy. You clearly have teams traveling longer distances for some reason. Might as well have them travel for a good reason... to make these number more even.

#thepopulation

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