ontherise219 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I know some states allow middle schoolers to wrestle on the high school level. With middle school state yesterday who are some middle schooler who could place at state? If allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastClub Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I know some states allow middle schoolers to wrestle on the high school level. With middle school state yesterday who are some middle schooler who could place at state? If allowed Ben Dalton at 106 pritchem and coach_worden 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Jesse Mendez Mat Shark, Coach Masters, coach_worden and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaMudflap Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Ben Dalton at 106 Kid has the best mullet I've seen in a long time. Quite a neck warmer he's got. Pretty good slide-by from neutral also Russian, HulkamaniaBrother and BreakfastClub 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Jesse MendezI agree Mendez is a beast. Medalist at 106 possibly boarman mater dei I saw he had a win over Noah mis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastClub Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Kid has the best mullet I've seen in a long time. Quite a neck warmer he's got. Pretty good slide-by from neutral also Mullet for days yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINfan Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I agree Mendez is a beast. Medalist at 106 possibly boarman mater dei I saw he had a win over Noah mis Boarman likely wouldn't make varsity for MD this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regionrat1 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I remember many years ago a post like dis - talking about Alex Tshirts / he didn't have a bad career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLane Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) All would come out of same mooresville regional Avon Sectional Rioux Campbell Boe Mooresville Sectional Dalton (if he was freshman this year) Sego Edited February 14, 2017 by DLane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throw45 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 First time all year OTR has disappointed me with a DUMB post. Middle schoolers are just that in Indiana, middle schoolers. They will have their glory on this page, but not today...there is a forum called youth and middle school designated just for them!! MOWrestler and regionrumbler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regionrumbler Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 First time all year OTR has disappointed me with a DUMB post. Middle schoolers are just that in Indiana, middle schoolers. They will have their glory on this page, but not today...there is a forum called youth and middle school designated just for them!! AGREED MOWrestler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busstogate Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 So a hypothetical post hurt your butts? BreakfastClub and gogoplata89 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regionrumbler Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Didn't do anything to my butt. I just think Jr. High is Jr. High and in a time when there's a lot of chest thumping and big egos...suggesting a 13 year old would place with 17-18 year olds, serves no good purpose. I know a few high schoolers who got their priorities screwed up by reading their rankings too often. Jr. High kids will have their day, but the less publicity at a young age, the better. I feel the same about comparing High School wrestlers to Big Ten wrestlers. Wait until they are in the college room and deserve/have earned that conversation. Just my opinion, since you asked. If Reiser and I were talking in person, it would be different, but saying on here that a JH kid is good enough to place in HS, when there are tons of hard working HS kids who lost in the ticket round or before...kinda slaps them in the face, as well as puffs up the JH kid unnecessarily. MOWrestler, pritchem, TeamGarcia and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navy80 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Great topic! Kentucky always brings an 8th grader or two to the Mater Dei classic. Zeke Esclara 106 from Union County is an 8th grader and tech falled Mater Dei's Hinderliter 23-6 and majored Raymond Rioux from Avon 14-6 UC also brought 8th grader Payne Carr to the classic and he was pinned by Mater Dei's Matt Lee and then turned around and majored him 17-9 for 3rd. Zeke is 45-0 and is the favorite to win the title. Payne is 37-5 and should place. Back to the main question- Looking at some champions and placers track accounts it looks like some have beat or lost a close one to several 106lbers who are at state this year. Ben Dalton just won middle school state and has a previous win over Drake Campbell. Gavin Alstott who finished 2nd to Dalton, lost to Campbell 8-1 and Rioux 6-0. Cole Ross (Bloomington) who won Middle School State has a loss against Brayden Littell by pin and a 7-6 decision loss to Owen Sego. Blake Boarmen (Meter Dei) has a 14-7 loss to Alec Viduya. Has a 10-4 win over Brice Coleman. 6-4 and 9-1 win over Devin Casebolt. 8-1 loss to Asa Garcia when Asa was an 8th grader and Blake was a 6th grader. Noah Mis (Griffin) has a win over Drake Campbell in greco The Jesse Mendez kid is an absolute beast for only a 7th grader. What high school is he going to? Possible 4Xer right there... I think several 8th graders could compete at a high level and possibly punch their ticket to the state finals. Sig40, pritchem and BreakfastClub 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 First time all year OTR has disappointed me with a DUMB post. Middle schoolers are just that in Indiana, middle schoolers. They will have their glory on this page, but not today...there is a forum called youth and middle school designated just for them!!Zeke seltzer defeated breydon lowery this past summer. Raymond rioux lost to a 8th grader from Kentucky. While rare in Indiana I don't think it's dumb to discuss. Sig40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1prouddad Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 This is a legitimate topic every year. While no one is saying a MS would win state, there are some that could possibly place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 Didn't do anything to my butt. I just think Jr. High is Jr. High and in a time when there's a lot of chest thumping and big egos...suggesting a 13 year old would place with 17-18 year olds, serves no good purpose. I know a few high schoolers who got their priorities screwed up by reading their rankings too often. Jr. High kids will have their day, but the less publicity at a young age, the better. I feel the same about comparing High School wrestlers to Big Ten wrestlers. Wait until they are in the college room and deserve/have earned that conversation. Just my opinion, since you asked. If Reiser and I were talking in person, it would be different, but saying on here that a JH kid is good enough to place in HS, when there are tons of hard working HS kids who lost in the ticket round or before...kinda slaps them in the face, as well as puffs up the JH kid unnecessarily. I think of all the post taken down or locked this weekto Say this is a slap in the face is kinda crazy. I think most of. These kids compete against each other so they have a good idea of how these matches go. To suggest that there isn't middle school wrestler who can place in Indiana is small Minded. State uses to be a junior/senior goal. That is small thinking. It is a hypothetical if kids who lost in the ticket round are offended by this I apologize. I like the debate of the question domyku doubt greats like tsirtsis Mauer red Escobedo nick lee could have placed as middle school Wrestlers? I believe they could have And would have MOWrestler and Sig40 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Not to far away from ISWA Folkstyle State, with the Cadet group being typically 8th grade - 10th grade. I'm sure we will see a few decent matchups there between some talented young high school wrestlers and some stud 8th graders. MOWrestler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoISU Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 First time all year OTR has disappointed me with a DUMB post. Middle schoolers are just that in Indiana, middle schoolers. They will have their glory on this page, but not today...there is a forum called youth and middle school designated just for them!! Who cares... If you don't like the post just move on. It's not totally unrelated and can be an interesting discussion. BreakfastClub, MOWrestler and Sig40 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtown 138 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 If you want to talk about something that is a real accomplishment, how about these Lee boys leaving a year early for college? Barrq 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWFTKWC11 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) Great topic! Kentucky always brings an 8th grader or two to the Mater Dei classic. Zeke Esclara 106 from Union County is an 8th grader and tech falled Mater Dei's Hinderliter 23-6 and majored Raymond Rioux from Avon 14-6 UC also brought 8th grader Payne Carr to the classic and he was pinned by Mater Dei's Matt Lee and then turned around and majored him 17-9 for 3rd. Zeke is 45-0 and is the favorite to win the title. Payne is 37-5 and should place. Back to the main question- Looking at some champions and placers track accounts it looks like some have beat or lost a close one to several 106lbers who are at state this year. Ben Dalton just won middle school state and has a previous win over Drake Campbell. Gavin Alstott who finished 2nd to Dalton, lost to Campbell 8-1 and Rioux 6-0. Cole Ross (Bloomington) who won Middle School State has a loss against Brayden Littell by pin and a 7-6 decision loss to Owen Sego. Blake Boarmen (Meter Dei) has a 14-7 loss to Alec Viduya. Has a 10-4 win over Brice Coleman. 6-4 and 9-1 win over Devin Casebolt. 8-1 loss to Asa Garcia when Asa was an 8th grader and Blake was a 6th grader. Noah Mis (Griffin) has a win over Drake Campbell in greco The Jesse Mendez kid is an absolute beast for only a 7th grader. What high school is he going to? Possible 4Xer right there... I think several 8th graders could compete at a high level and possibly punch their ticket to the state finals. This dude would probably could possibly win state in Indiana as an 8th grader. Edited February 14, 2017 by IWFTKWC11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 I think he would place. Moran almost majored him at ihpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWFTKWC11 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I think he would place. Moran almost majored him at ihpo Didn't know that. Post has been edited due to insider information being released lol ontherise219 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfangms Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Mendez won the high school division in Michigan earlier this year at a weight lower than 106. He has another year to grow and get stronger, he does do weight room work a few times a week with the LC coach, so I'd say in 2 years he's more than likely a 113 pounder. While a title is absolutely in reach at 113, I think its a bit more difficult than at 106 where he's likely to wrestle other freshman. Just looking at recent history, kids like Pebble, Cummings, and Garcia occupied 113 at sophomores or above, all of whom would give Mendez fits. I know Jesse well and can assure you, him reading this would do nothing to his ego. The kid is humble and well grounded, if it wasn't for his entire wardrobe being comprised of wrestling shirts, you wouldn't even know he wrestled because he never brings it up. ontherise219, MOWrestler, Sig40 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOWrestler Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I think both sides of this 'disagreement' about whether this is a 'good post' or not; or if it belongs in this forum or another one have some credibility. Everything on these forums represent someone's OPINION. Feel free not to 'click' and open it if you think it doesn't belong here.... I will say at least it is talking about positive attributes of wrestlers. Noticing someone's potential does not take away from the accomplishments of others. BreakfastClub, Sig40 and Russian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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