Y2CJ41 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 There was a "tad" bit of controversy in a quarter-final match at 57kg. After the match a whole caucus(state) left the tournament. After that another one left too, they have suspended the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 Here is a link with more information and the match video http://www.flowrestling.org/article/42167-dagestan-protests-at-russian-nationals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Terrible call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) It's Russia so I'm not suprised something crazy happened at a wrestling event. Maybe two years back they had a brawl between coaching staffs that turned into a crowd fight. At a junior or cadet event about a month ago they had a multiple coaches/parents pull guns in each other. If all that happens is a protest by one region that stops the competition then I'd say they are handling it relatively calmly at the moment. But, I wouldn't be suprised if something occurs later too if they feel slighted again. They take their combat sports seriously in Russia, especially around Dagestan. Edited May 27, 2016 by MattM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grecoref Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Nothing and I mean NOTHING surprises me about anything that goes on there. The president of the Russian Wrestling Federation, Mikahl Mamiasvili. cannot get a visa into the USA because of his mob ties. They are in the middle of a major doping scandal with the IOC and the head of the Russian drug testing program dies in his sleep a couple of months ago. About a month ago, Adlan Varaeyev, the head of the Russian Freestyle Group "falls off" a bridge into a river and I'm not sure the body has been found yet. When the Soviet Union collapsed, the mob began controlling everything including sports. Payoffs and favors are a common practice. I have lots of stories.... horseofadifferentcolor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoplata89 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) The fact that you have to have soldiers there speaks for itself. I scored it 4-4 with criteria going to Blue. Russia really does "pick their team" Edited May 27, 2016 by gogoplata89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltHarris Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Here is the article about the body guard pulling a gun on the mat with pictures included: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3599699/Moment-teenage-Russian-wrestler-s-bodyguard-waves-gun-victor-just-defeated-match-Stary-Oskol.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Here is the article about the body guard pulling a gun on the mat with pictures included: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3599699/Moment-teenage-Russian-wrestler-s-bodyguard-waves-gun-victor-just-defeated-match-Stary-Oskol.htmlIf I recall from the video I saw, there were a few people holding guns when the groups were confronting each other. At least cooler heads prevailed in that issue. Edited May 27, 2016 by MattM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grecoref Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 A few reports coming in that other teams/states are pulling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaltHarris Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) If I recall from the video I saw, there were a few people holding guns when the groups were confronting each other. At least cooler heads prevailed in that issue. Wow. There were actually multiple people with guns out, not just the body guard? I've dealt with a lot of crazy wrestling parents, fans and kids over the years, but nothing like that. Grecoref, would love to hear your stories about Russia. Edited May 27, 2016 by WaltHarris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 There were many walk overs aka forfeits after the quarters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Russian_National_Freestyle_Wrestling_Championships Click on the details of each weight. Also at 57kg it lists both guys as getting the gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo Brigade Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Stary Oskol is where the Emelianenko brothers, Fedor and Alexander, are from. The brothers talked about massive street gang fights, where neighborhoods fought each other with weapons, being commonplace in their younger days. Fedor, in typically terse Russian fashion, described Stary Oskol as a "cold, dark place". Basically, it's one of the roughest cities in Russia Stary Oskol is where the Emelianenko brothers, Fedor and Alexander, are from. The brothers talked about massive street gang fights, where neighborhoods fought each other with weapons, being commonplace in their younger days. Fedor, in typically terse Russian fashion, described Stary Oskol as a "cold, dark place". Basically, it's one of the roughest cities in Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) For a little background into this morning's debacle: Dagestan is a small region of less than 3 million people who are wrestling, Sambo, and MMA monsters. If the selection process ends up being fair, they'll have someone in contention for Russia's Olympic spots at every freestyle weight and they've got the best pound-for-pound wrestler in the world right now, with all due respect to our own Jordan Burroughs. But Dagestan is poor. And today's event was held in an eastern region of Russia called Yakutsk that is rich with resources and has some powerful people that are very into wrestling and that have done shady things in the past. So the 57kg quarterfinal today had Russia's world-teamer from last year, Lebedev, who is from near Yakutsk, against a Dagestani wrestling 6 time zones from home. Oh--and Lebedev is infamous for getting calls to go his way and having numerous high-profile shady events. Cue today's events where Lebedev goes behind and the Dagestani isn't close to having his knee down as they go out of bounds--two takedown, and it stands up under review. The Dagestani can't overcome the 2 instead of 1 and subsequent extra lost point for losing the challenge, and he loses by a point. So all of the Dagestanis and several neighboring regions--comprising an enormous chunk of Russia's best guys just all end up leaving half-way through day 1 of a 3-day nationals. Awesome. Edited May 27, 2016 by maligned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) Wow! Shockingly, the two-time world champion Lebedev removes himself from the running for selection for the Olympics because he believes he lost both the match that ended up being protested by the departure of the Dagestanis and his later gold-medal match (that one was so bad also, a jury awarded 2 gold medals instead of giving it to only him). If he's not being coerced in some way, his comments in this article seem incredibly selfless. http://russiawrestling.com/victor-lebedev-i-will-not-wrestle-in-rio-2016/ Edited May 31, 2016 by maligned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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